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On 4/7/2017 at 6:03 PM, Hum said:

North Korea will get it next

The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson strike group is heading back to the waters east of the Korean peninsula after completing a port visit to Singapore. The carrier and three other ships will head there as tensions remain high about North Korean missile tests and a possible underground nuclear test.

 

"Admiral Harry Harris, Commander, U.S. Pacific Command, has directed the Carl Vinson Strike Group to sail north and report on station in the Western Pacific Ocean after departing Singapore April 8," said a U.S. Navy press release.

 

The release said the strike group "will operate in the Western Pacific rather than executing previously planned port visits to Australia."

 

According to a U.S. official the Vinson, two destroyers and a cruiser received orders this week to head to the Sea of Japan, east of the Korean peninsula.

 

The strike group consists of the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) the guided missile destroyers USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG 108) and USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112) and the guided missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain (CG 57).

 

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Also elements of Destroyer Squadron 1, which could include any or all of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers,

USS Stockdale (DDG-106)
USS Sterett (DDG-104)
USS Gridley (DDG-101)
USS Higgins (DDG-76)
USS Benfold (DDG-65)
USS Russell (DDG-59) 

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aww man, I think we need a USS warwagon

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North Korea needs their tyrant laid to rest and then handed over to South Korea to rule...not China.  That would be best for their people.  Their people need to be free...

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why doesn't a special forces unit enter NK and kill the fatty?

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6 minutes ago, Slarlac249 said:

why doesn't a special forces unit enter NK and kill the fatty?

in case someone worse/crazier pops up as the replacement. Another thing is any if any replacement is in place, is all weaponry (in this case nuclear) under the control of the new leadership?

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Heading for the Sea of Japan,

 

Carrier Strike Group 11: USS Nimitz (CVN-68)

 

Carrier Air Wing 11 (CVW-11)

 

Destroyer Squadron 9 (all Arleigh Burke class)

 

  • USS Hopper (DDG 70)
  • USS Howard (DDG 83)
  • USS Shoup (DDG 86)
  • USS Chafee (DDG 90)
  • USS Pinckney (DDG 91)
  • USS Kidd (DDG 100)

 

Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers 

 

  • USS Princeton (CG 59) 
  • USS Lake Erie (CG 70)
     

Cripes...Pretty soon you'll be able to jump ship to ship from South Korea to Japan.

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On 4/14/2017 at 10:08 PM, Slarlac249 said:

why doesn't a special forces unit enter NK and kill the fatty?

Yeah, that worked really well in Iraq, didn't it?

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China's in a better position to decapitate the Norks, and from what the PLA-connected media arms are editorializing Little Round Boy had better take any retirement plan offered to him.  Quickly.  Xi is not happy.

 

More additions to the Western Pacific fleet. The battle groups there or underway now number 5.

 

Supercarriers

  • USS Carl Vinson
  • USS Ronald Reagan
  • USS Nimitz

Amphibious Assault ships (Marine carriers)

  • USS Wasp (LHD-1)
  • USS Makin Island (LHD-8) (just left Hong Kong)

and each group often travels with attack submarines.

 

And the nuclear powered Ohio-class guided missile submarine USS Florida is out there, somewhere. 154 Tomahawks. 

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2 hours ago, DocM said:

China's in a better position to decapitate the Norks, and from what the PLA-connected media arms are editorializing Little Round Boy had better take any retirement plan offered to him.  Quickly.  Xi is not happy.

 

More additions to the Western Pacific fleet. The battle groups there or underway now number 5.

 

Supercarriers

  • USS Carl Vinson
  • USS Ronald Reagan
  • USS Nimitz

Amphibious Assault ships (Marine carriers)

  • USS Wasp (LHD-1)
  • USS Makin Island (LHD-8) (just left Hong Kong)

and each group often travels with attack submarines.

 

And the nuclear powered Ohio-class guided missile submarine USS Florida is out there, somewhere. 154 Tomahawks. 

Hopefully they don't use Tomahawks.  We saw how little they did in Syria.  

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Syria relocated it's fighters t the Russian base, which is enough.

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On 4/10/2017 at 10:02 PM, Ravensky said:

North Korea needs their tyrant laid to rest and then handed over to South Korea to rule...not China.  That would be best for their people.  Their people need to be free...

The problem is millions of starving, brainwashed people who have been raised and taught to hate everything outside of North Korea.

 

No one wants to deal with that, plus China isn't exactly going to go for that.

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3 minutes ago, Rigby said:

The problem is millions of starving, brainwashed people who have been raised and taught to hate everything outside of North Korea.

 

No one wants to deal with that, plus China isn't exactly going to hand it over.

China doesn't want the people so what are they going to do?

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1 hour ago, DocM said:

Syria relocated it's fighters t the Russian base, which is enough.

Isn't that opposite of "enough"?

 

Now they are more protected and still have the same range.  

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13 minutes ago, ctebah said:

Isn't that opposite of "enough"?

 

Now they are more protected and still have the same range.  

? If it wasn't "enough", they wouldn't be moved/stored somewhere else, they would still be where they were before.

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2 hours ago, ctebah said:

Isn't that opposite of "enough"?

 

Now they are more protected and still have the same range.  

Now they are under more concentrated Russian supervision, and Russia was put on notice by several parties their efforts under the chem/bio weapons agreement were insufficient. No excuses from here on.

 

As a noted Bureau Chief from the NY Times stated wrt North Korea, and it somewhat applies here as well, unpredictability has it's advantages. Some of his "act" is to put opponents off balance - get them raving about whatever tweet of the day while the pieces are being moved. 

 

Slate....

 

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Is Donald Trumps Unpredictability an advantage in Handling North Korea?

 

The North Koreans are used to being the ones who play the crazy card.
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"This is kind of interesting because the North Koreans have always played the crazy card. Now it's Trump who's playing the crazy card. I'm not making a judgment here about whether he's really crazy or not crazy, but I think they perceive him as very unpredictable, which is perhaps not a bad thing. By being impetuous and tweeting all sorts of implied threats, he's scaring them and also scaring the Chinese. As I said, that's their card. That's the favorite card in the playbook. The fact that he's stolen it or is playing their game is I think putting them kind of off. They don't know how to interpret it."
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I think Trump has scared the North Koreans, and I think he's even more so scared the Chinese. The Chinese are quite risk-averse. The Chinese Communist Party really wants stability on that border, and if they're convinced that Trump could do something serious, I think they will be more cooperative. He's tried various techniques with the Chinese, and he's offered concessions on trade. I think he's making it clear that he's very serious about this. Oh my God, here I am, defending Donald Trump.

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10 hours ago, DocM said:

Now they are under more concentrated Russian supervision,

 

Pretty much.  And now if it something happens and Syria is found guilty, then Russia will be held responsible as well.

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Yup. I'm constantly reminded of that at family reunions when the Navy branch talks about night carrier landings. Something that requires stainless steel castanets.

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^ See, now that's just stupid.  Publicising that such hardware is down there is just going to irritate the paranoid lunatic up north even more...

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Methinks it's more intended to convince Xi to act so the allies don't start breaking things, which could start a flood of refugees crossing the Yalu.

 

As was postulated by NY Times bureau chief last week; Trump's upredictability let's the US play the crazy card usually only played by NK.  Moreover, Trump told Xi, both at Mir-A-Lago and in the follow-up call, that the US-China trade talks hinge on the NK situation getting resolved, along with China being *officially* labeled a currency manipulator. Both would be bad for their business.

 

He's playing hardball.

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Posted (edited)

Uh-Oh....

 

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17Q1LR

 

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Entire U.S. Senate to go to White House for North Korea briefing

 

Top Trump administration officials will hold a rare briefing on Wednesday at the White House for the entire U.S. Senate on the situation in North Korea.

All 100 senators have been asked to the White House for the briefing by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said White House spokesman Sean Spicer on Monday.

While administration officials routinely travel to Capitol Hill to address members of Congress on foreign policy matters, it is unusual for the entire Senate to go to the White House, and for all four of those officials to be involved.
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So, the poo is about to his the fan... Yay...

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From what I have been seeing for the past couple days, Trump is looking for more sanctions on NK.   I dont think he will bomb them....yet.

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