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Gunman wounds several at congressional baseball practice in Virginia

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JoseyWales    566
47 minutes ago, TPreston said:

Sorry you blamed the democrats for this shooting, My question is simple. Can we not blame the republicans and trump for these attacks based on the same logic ?

 

http://fox6now.com/2017/04/11/beat-me-like-an-animal-alleged-attacker-rips-off-muslim-womans-hijab-cuts-her-with-knife-on-citys-south-side/ 

http://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/canadian-jdl-member-charged-d-c-beating-palestinian-american 

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/florida-man-accused-setting-store-fire-thought-owners-were-muslims/AiaV4I91dCzaw0UlsOCGYL/ 

http://www.kptv.com/story/34725881/hate-crime-suspect-beats-salem-restaurant-employee-with-pipe 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/nyregion/queens-ny-jfk-attack.html?_r=0 

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/homeless-man-throws-coffee-muslim-woman-nyc-dunkin-donuts-article-1.2915553 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-simi-valley-mosque-stabbing-20161211-story.html 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim-woman-new-york-city-pushed-down-stairs-subway-called-terrorist/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=31992332 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/va-man-charged-with-hate-crime-after-using-muslim-slurs-biting-victims-face-police-say/2017/02/27/8524182a-c819-4c4a-8131-7f93766eeb5e_story.html

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/drunken-pittsburgh-man-sucker-punches-oblivious-indian-man-he-mistook-for-sand-nr/#.WDiWpk4msgw.reddit 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/10/us/brooklyn-muslim-women-attacked/index.html 

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-st-lucie-county/fort-pierce/suspect-charged-in-fort-pierce-mosque-arson-to-appear-in-court-again-Monday 

 

Yes or no ?


Why is this so incredibly difficult for you to answer ?

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there aren't you.. Throw it out there and see what sticks, I get it. You have some potatoes but there is no meat.. Canadians, bums..

 

And again, you all seem to think two wrongs will make a right. No, it just creates a bigger mess. !00% of what the progressives are doing is the cause of what we have with both sides. The right fights back and the left goes "see, they are violent" and whatnot. You all pushed the narratives and created the political environment we see today that is triggering idiots on all sides and even in other countries.. You all push this violent adjeda and then cry foul when you have triggered just what you wanted to happen, anarchy.. hypocrite's one and all.

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TPreston    5,389
1 hour ago, JoseyWales said:

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there aren't you.. 

I have said countless times that these are not my views i even put a disclaimer on the post to state this. Im just showing  the stupidity of DocM's position that leftists are to blame for this. They are no more at fault than trump and republicans are for the attacks i cited.

 

 

 

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hagjohn    2,237

GOP rep: Trump partially to blame for hostility that led to lawmaker shooting

 

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) said President Trump is “partially” to blame for the hostility in the nation that led to the shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a congressional baseball practice.

 

“I would argue the president has unleashed, partially, again not in anyway totally, but partially to blame for the demons that have been unleashed,” Sanford said Thursday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." 

 

He referenced Trump's remarks during the campaign that he'd like to punch a protester in the face, saying the comments were “bizarre” and “we’ve ought to call it as such.” 

 

“They’ll say, ‘If the guy at the top can say anything to anybody any time, why can’t I?' ” Sanford said.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/337902-sanford-trump-partially-to-blame-for-hostility-that-led-to

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+primortal    13,219
4 hours ago, JoseyWales said:

What health care debacle? Obama's.. Nothing has changed and no plan enacted or even submitted. The president tried to change things but it fell short, but you know that. Quit being a mouthpiece for the left.

Nope, TrumpCare that the senate is steamrolling through the house without anyone seeing beforehand because they are afraid of the backlash from the people.

 

Sorry, I'm a mouthpiece for what is wrong with the government; left or right.  Too bad you can't see that the right is f'ing things up currently.

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Andre S.    1,923

Deficient democracy, lack of trust in government, extreme social inequality, rampant poverty, criminality and abundance of firearms will lead to more of this. Partisan bickering will not help solve the issue.

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hagjohn    2,237

Ted Nugent swears off 'hateful rhetoric' in wake of Alexandria shooting

 

"At the tender age of 69, my wife has convinced me that I just can’t use those harsh terms," Nugent said on Curtis & Eboni, of WABC Radio in New York. "I cannot, and I will not, and I encourage even my friends-slash-enemies on the left in the Democrat and liberal world that we have got to be civil to each other."

 

He added, "I’m going to take a deep breath and I am going to back it down, and if it gets fiery, if it gets hateful, I’m going away. I’m not going to engage in that kind of hateful rhetoric anymore."

 

As cohost Eboni Williams noted, Nugent has a history of making crass, outlandish, and threatening statements about Democratic leaders like Barack Obama, whom he once invited to "suck on my machine gun," and Hillary Clinton, whom he has said should be hanged for treason. In 2012, Nugent found himself face to face with the Secret Service after making menacing remarks about then-President Obama.

 

Nugent said Thursday, though, "I’ve got to get my psyche in tune [so] that I can still hold the ground - and I can be feisty, I can be fiery, I can be passionate. But I will avoid anything that can be interpreted as condoning or referencing violence."

 

He also contended, rather inaccurately, "I have never referenced violence; I’ve said some smart-ass stuff in the past."

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/ted-nugent-swears-off-hateful-rhetoric-in-wake-of-alexandria-shooting/ar-BBCKbrJ?li=BBnbfcL

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PGHammer    1,551
2 hours ago, primortal said:

Nope, TrumpCare that the senate is steamrolling through the house without anyone seeing beforehand because they are afraid of the backlash from the people.

 

Sorry, I'm a mouthpiece for what is wrong with the government; left or right.  Too bad you can't see that the right is f'ing things up currently.

primortal - the original ACA got steamrolled though without a single GOP vote - so NOT exactly news.

 

I blamed hyperpartisanism PERIOD for the shooting in Alexandria - not GOP hyperpartisanism OR Democratic hyperpartisanism - there's enough egg on both sides to make an omelot!

 

However, neither side apparently wants to stop breaking eggs.  You can do it without me, as I am abandoning the thread.  I've at least tried to be logical with my arguments against hyperpartisanism - but the rest of you want no part of logic - fine.

 

Have a good sail about the SS Typhoid Mary - I'm abandoning THAT ship.

 

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+primortal    13,219
40 minutes ago, PGHammer said:

primortal - the original ACA got steamrolled though without a single GOP vote - so NOT exactly news.

 

I blamed hyperpartisanism PERIOD for the shooting in Alexandria - not GOP hyperpartisanism OR Democratic hyperpartisanism - there's enough egg on both sides to make an omelot!

 

However, neither side apparently wants to stop breaking eggs.  You can do it without me, as I am abandoning the thread.  I've at least tried to be logical with my arguments against hyperpartisanism - but the rest of you want no part of logic - fine.

 

Have a good sail about the SS Typhoid Mary - I'm abandoning THAT ship.

 

You completely missed the point about TrumpCare.  It's not about steamrolling it to vote is that they are deeply afraid to let the public read it before the vote.  Have you asked yourself why that is?  Logic would pose that question wouldn't it?

 

I hate to tell you my friend but your logic just as ours is deeply flawed...

 

I'll save you a drink on the SS Typhoid Mary because you'll be going down with us as well if things don't turn around.

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DocM    16,654

Some good news

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-scalise-bullet-us/story?id=48087818

 

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Scalise's vital signs have 'stabilized,' hospital 'encouraged' by 'improvement' in last 36 hours

 

Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., remains in critical condition, hospital officials said this afternoon, after the House majority whip and three others were shot at a baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, Wednesday.

Dr. Jack Sava, the director of trauma at the MedStar Washington Hospital Center, said this afternoon that Scalise had "sustained a single rifle wound that entered in the area of the left hip. It traveled directly across towards the other hip in what we call a trans pelvic gunshot wound. The round fragmented and did substantial damage to bones, internal organs and blood vessels.

"I understand he was awake on scene but by the time he was transported by helicopter to the MedStar trauma center, he was in shock," Sava said. "When he arrived, he was in critical condition with an imminent risk of death."

Now, doctors are "encouraged in the improvement in his condition in the last 36 hours," Sava said. "We have controlled his internal bleeding and his vital signs have stabilized."
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DocM    16,654

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-shooting-idUSKBN19R05O

 

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U.S. Representative Steve Scalise, shot and wounded during a baseball practice last month, developed an infection and was readmitted to an intensive care unit, MedStar Washington Hospital Center said on Wednesday.

 

Scalise, the No. 3 Republican leader in the U.S. House of Representatives, had been improving in recent weeks following surgeries to repair internal organs and broken bones.

The hospital, which downgraded his condition to "serious" from "fair," said it would provide another update on Thursday.
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wakjak    19,627

Here's hoping he pulls through. 

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DocM    16,654

Infection is always a risk with penetrating injuries, but with the antibiotic resistant bacteria issue it's taken on new urgency to treat fast, treat hard. Unfortunately, hospitals also serve as repositories for the infectious agents brought in by their patients. 

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