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Describing the North's latest missile test as a sharp military escalation, the US ambassador to the United Nations said the US will table a new resolution against Pyongyang.

Ambassador Nikki Haley also threatened to use trade restrictions.

The missile launch, the latest in a series of tests, was in defiance of a ban by the UN Security Council.

North Korea's test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) on Tuesday was "quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic solution," Ms Haley said.

"The United States is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves, and our allies," the US ambassador told the UN Security Council, meeting for an emergency session to discuss the test.

"One of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces. We will use them, if we must, but we prefer not to have to go in that direction".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40513334

 

Idiots once again looking to start another war.  I guess military spending isn't high enough.  Poor Koreans, both North and South, if the US chooses it's regular course of action.

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Sounds like Haley is starting to get sick and tired of her job requiring her to do actual work... considering her idiotic 4th of july tweet.

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1 hour ago, wakjak said:

Sounds like Haley is starting to get sick and tired of her job requiring her to do actual work... considering her idiotic 4th of july tweet.

Just the same statement made several times before but by a different person.

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Aggressive talk will just force the Norks to respond in kind...

 

*sigh*  Why is it that American politicians completely fail to understand the Asian mindset?  Everything there is about saving face, avoiding saying No, and retaining dignity and honour (well, it is in Asian nations I'm familiar with so I'm assuming it's not a lot different in Korea). Backing down in the face of US threats is not going to do that so they will not back down, even though they know they'd lose badly.  

 

A way needs to be found that allows the Norks to pull back from the brink of war whilst still saving face and not looking bad.  How about offering them some carrots instead of using sticks with nukes on the end?

 

"Hi guys. Look, we appreciate that you're worried about security and stuff, so what we'll do is, we'll cut out this wargame stuff with the Southies and hey, maybe we could help out a bit by relaxing some trade rules?  

 

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4 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

A way needs to be found that allows the Norks to pull back from the brink of war whilst still saving face and not looking bad.  How about offering them some carrots instead of using sticks with nukes on the end?

There's a way and both sides know it.

 

For "the Norks" to give up on their nuke programme, the U.S. THAAD missiles must first be removed from South Korea.

 

I hope that both Koreas will be unified in the future in some sort of a confederation. The sooner this happens, the better. The German scenario of unification obviously won't work for the North Korean leadership.

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The missile that NK recently launched landed in Japanese waters according to Japan.   There is also talk of ramping up Japan's military and there is a bill in place to do so but has not been approved yet.  Japan's and NKs relationship is not good especially since the 1970s do diplomatic talk between the two countries, good luck,  Everyone needs to relax and concede on things.   This is not just a US issue here as much as some may want to think.   Countries are in a pissing match and if they are not  careful, it will turn in to a ###### storm.

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So the US want's NK to stop their missile tests but it will not stop their own military drills in the region. What kind of imbecile thinks that makes any sense? Can you imagine the kind of response the US government would have if any country decided to do military drills near the US borders? Considering the amount of death and destruction the US government has caused around the world, ohhh the insanity. 

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US rejects China’s proposal to halt North Korea nuclear weapons

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/us-rejects-chinas-plan-north-korea-weapons-halt/

Washington has rejected China’s proposal that North Korea could halt its nuclear weapons programme if the United States and South Korea suspended military activities in the region.

 

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Dear Barack Obama, Kim Jong-Un Wants to Talk

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/04/15/north-korea-nuclear-deal-kim-jong-un-barack-obama-south-korea-china-united-442503.html

In 2015, after the U.S. and Iran agreed to a historic nuclear agreement, Obama appeared to soften his approach to Pyongyang in hopes of making a similar deal. He dropped his condition that North Korea curtail its nuclear program before direct talks about its nukes could commence. But Pyongyang wanted to talk only about officially ending the Korean War, and that effort dissolved. After the North’s fourth nuclear test in January, the U.S. and the United Nations Security Council imposed new penalties on Pyongyang.

 

Over the past seven years, none of Obama’s diplomatic efforts have changed defense cooperation between the U.S. and its ally South Korea. The two countries have continued conducting their annual joint military exercises, which Seoul described this year as a practice run to “decapitate” Pyongyang. This year’s maneuvers were also the largest ever, involving 300,000 South Korean troops and 17,000 from the U.S. During the exercises, the American military test-fired two nuclear-capable intercontinental ballistic missiles—a not-so-subtle reminder of its first-strike nuclear capability. “The message to North Korea has to be, 'So, you think you have nuclear weapons? Well, we have a way of dealing with that, and it’s called preemption. So watch your toes,'” says William Brown, a former CIA analyst.  

 

Has America every wanted anything other than military force?

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On 2017-07-08 at 8:06 AM, 300z said:

 

So the US want's NK to stop their missile tests but it will not stop their own military drills in the region. What kind of imbecile thinks that makes any sense? Can you imagine the kind of response the US government would have if any country decided to do military drills near the US borders? Considering the amount of death and destruction the US government has caused around the world, ohhh the insanity. 

It was the US that broke its promises and brought nukes to the Korean Peninsula.  It's what caused the North to start arming itself and trying to make a nuke.

 

And years later we have a stupid, gullible population that thinks that the North Korea is a threat.   

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On ‎06‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 5:15 PM, FloatingFatMan said:

Aggressive talk will just force the Norks to respond in kind...

 

*sigh*  Why is it that American politicians completely fail to understand the Asian mindset?  Everything there is about saving face, avoiding saying No, and retaining dignity and honour (well, it is in Asian nations I'm familiar with so I'm assuming it's not a lot different in Korea). Backing down in the face of US threats is not going to do that so they will not back down, even though they know they'd lose badly.  

 

A way needs to be found that allows the Norks to pull back from the brink of war whilst still saving face and not looking bad.  How about offering them some carrots instead of using sticks with nukes on the end?

 

"Hi guys. Look, we appreciate that you're worried about security and stuff, so what we'll do is, we'll cut out this wargame stuff with the Southies and hey, maybe we could help out a bit by relaxing some trade rules?  

 

as long as the crazy fatty is in charge, things won't change. dictators need to be done away with as they do nothing good for their country, they are basically mini hitlers.

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3 hours ago, Slarlac249 said:

as long as the crazy fatty is in charge, things won't change. dictators need to be done away with as they do nothing good for their country, they are basically mini hitlers.

Yea, just wish the US would stay out of it.  Let someone else take over and see what they can do.   People like to bitch and moan about what so and so is doing but when it comes to actually doing something, they tend not to act.   Time to start focusing more on ourselves...for once and let someone else try and do something.

 

Also, people are not as worried about NK or other countries as much as the media likes to make it seem like.  But there are some that are worried but those people are no different from the concerns/worries any other countries civilians.  Some worry, some don't.   But the media's "the sky is falling" type reporting is just over hyping the situation and making it look like the majority thinks a certain way.

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