adrynalyne Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) See more PC response below. Edited October 1, 2017 by adrynalyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, adrynalyne said: So you lied. Got it So you are saying that the sites I quoted lied. Alera 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: Intel is not going to say outright, "You need liquid coolers" because it would offend partners that make air coolers (e.g. Noctua), but it's very telling that Intel tells review sites that it recommends using liquid coolers. So you cannot backup your claim that Intel said it. I guess I will then refer back to my real work experience as the answer. Air cooling works fine as long as you don’t want to overclock. Alera 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Thanks for all the answers!!! Ok so I've decided: i7820X Asus Prime x299-A (The deluxe doesn't add anything I'll really use) Samsung 960 Evo 250GB Not decided: Cooling, I'm so lost on this, so much to choose from :\ It seems Corsair Hydro Series H115i is good? Memory, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000MHz CL15 ? PSU still looking at so much reviews and choise :\ My last build was 6 years, was so much easy :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, adrynalyne said: So you cannot backup your claim that Intel said it. I guess I will then refer back to my real work experience as the answer. Air cooling works fine as long as you don’t want to overclock. I will say that I trust sites like Ars Technica more than I trust you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Mockingbird said: So you are saying that the sites I quoted lied. You said Intel said it. You've yet to prove it. Blogs repeat what other blogs say all the time, it’s how bad info gets out. xendrome 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: You said Intel said it. You've yet to prove it. Blogs repeat what other blogs say all the time, it’s how bad info gets out. I trust sites like Ars Technica more than I trust you. I am bored of this discussion. Goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Guys please help and let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mockingbird said: I trust sites like Ars Technica more than I trust you. I trust Intel more than you and them and you provided no source to back your claim. I am done per request of OP. 1 minute ago, Digitalfox said: Guys please help and let it go Sorry. Back on track, if you want a more silent build or want to overclock, go with water cooling. Alera and Digitalfox 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: I trust sites like Ars Technica more than I trust you. I am bored of this discussion. Goodbye Mockingbird I'm also using all the info you have posted to guide me, so please help me out What do you about Corsair PSU? 850W? 5 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: I trust Intel more than you and them and you provided no source to back your claim. I am done per request of OP. Sorry. Back on track, if you want a more silent build or want to overclock, go with water cooling. What do you you recommend for water cooling? I'm no expert, so something easy to install, also not really into leds, it would be just there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: Mockingbird I'm also using all the info you have posted to guide me, so please help me out The problem with Skylake-X is that intel uses TIM which is very inefficient in transferring heat from the die to the heat spreader. Skylake-X's predecessor's Broadwell-E uses solder, so it doesn't have this problem. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/252354-investigations-sheds-fresh-light-intels-x299-overheating-problem-implicates-skylake-xs-design-well This is in addition to the problem of X299 motherboards having inadequate VRM cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted October 1, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted October 1, 2017 The Corsair Hydro Series H115i will cool that processor. If budget is of concern ... you could look at some of the fine Noctua coolers (for half the price)....or even the cooler xendrome posted earlier (which is rated for 180 TDP). The only *real* problem with air coolers is you want to make sure everything fits (i.e. the heat sink doesn't conflict with the RAM, case, etc). Anyway, if you're on a budget and aren't overclocking ... get a good air cooler for half the price of a water cooler. Having the air circulate (with an air cooler) might also help keep the VRM's cooled. adrynalyne and Digitalfox 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jim K said: The Corsair Hydro Series H115i will cool that processor. If budget is of concern ... you could look at some of the fine Noctua coolers (for half the price)....or even the cooler xendrome posted earlier (which is rated for 180 TDP). The only *real* problem with air coolers is you want to make sure everything fits (i.e. the heat sink doesn't conflict with the RAM, case, etc). Anyway, if you're on a budget and aren't overclocking ... get a good air cooler for half the price of a water cooler. Having the air circulate (with an air cooler) might also help keep the VRM's cooled. I have no problem spending 100/150€ on a cooler, if that means lower temperatures overall So the Hydro is a good choice? How do I know my case supports adding it to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: What do you about Corsair PSU? 850W? What do you you recommend for water cooling? I'm no expert, so something easy to install, also not really into leds, it would be just there... Something like the Corsair RM850i is totally fine. As for liquid cooler, I would recommend a 280mm AIO liquid cooler. 4 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: I have not problem spending 100/150€ on a cooler, if that means lower temperatures overall You can also de-lid the processor. Digitalfox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: Something like the Corsair RM850i is totally fine. Ok, it does bring all the connectors for the Aus prime x299-A motherboard and in case i buy a 1080ti also right? I'm sorry guys but I'm really out of the loop on all the modern stuff :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: Mockingbird I'm also using all the info you have posted to guide me, so please help me out What do you about Corsair PSU? 850W? What do you you recommend for water cooling? I'm no expert, so something easy to install, also not really into leds, it would be just there... Any AIO rated for it from Corsair would be fine. They are really easy to install. I myself use an h60i on my 7700k and idle in mid 30s but I don’t overlcock. Digitalfox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: I have no problem spending 100/150€ on a cooler, if that means lower temperatures overall So the Hydro is a good choice? How do I know my case supports adding it to it? I have never used one, but I hear good things about the Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme that Jim K. talks about. As for the case, it just need cutouts big enough to fit. 6 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: Ok, it does bring all the connectors for the Aus prime x299-A motherboard and in case i buy a 1080ti also right? Yes, that's correct. Digitalfox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Ok so Corsair RM850i Full Modular it is So decided: i7 7820X Asus Prime x299-A Samsung Evo 960 250GB Corsair RM850i Full Modular Corsair Hydro Series H115i Still a little undecided : RAM, wiki says the i7 uses DDR4 2666, can I use DDR4-3200MHz without overclocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 One other thing I want to mention: Intel X299 uses quad-channel memory. Digitalfox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: One other thing I want to mention: Intel X299 uses quad-channel memory. I can't use just 2 sticks? Holy crap, I can't believe in 6 years I'm so out of the loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: I can't use just 2 sticks? Holy crap, I can't believe in 6 years I'm so out of the loop You can. It's just not optimal. Anyway, here is your build PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor (€544.90 @ Caseking) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€134.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X299-A ATX LGA2066 Motherboard (€263.99 @ ARLT) Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€191.16 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€134.90 @ Caseking) Power Supply: Corsair - 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€140.81 @ Mindfactory) Total: €1410.75Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-01 19:57 CEST+0200 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I also want to post an alternative build that I think you should consider. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor (€334.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.72 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€98.71 @ Amazon Deutschland) Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€134.90 @ Caseking) Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€87.84 @ Mindfactory) Total: €847.72Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-01 19:58 CEST+0200 Digitalfox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Digitalfox said: Mockingbird I'm also using all the info you have posted to guide me, so please help me out Nothing personal, but the last person I would use for hardware recommendation builds. Source: Based upon past experience/posts on this site Mockingbird, The Evil Overlord and adrynalyne 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) So: i7 7820X Asus Prime x299-A Samsung Evo 960 250GB Corsair RM850i Full Modular Corsair Hydro Series H115i Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 * 2 (4 sticks Quad Channel) What do you guys think? Anything horrible about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Digitalfox said: So: i7 7820X Asus Prime x299-A Samsung Evo 960 250GB Corsair RM850i Full Modular Corsair Hydro Series H115i Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 * 2 (4 sticks Quad Channel) What do you guys think? Anything horrible about it? Any specific reason why that CPU? Just curious. If anything you should get a lower CPU like the 7700K and double the ram to 32GB, you said you were running 2x VMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Digitalfox said: So: i7 7820X Asus Prime x299-A Samsung Evo 960 250GB Corsair RM850i Full Modular Corsair Hydro Series H115i Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 * 2 (4 sticks Quad Channel) What do you guys think? Anything horrible about it? You should probably get a memory kit that comes with 4 DIMM rather than two kits with 2 DIMM each. A memory kit with 4 DIMM have been tested to make sure that each of DIMM works well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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