59 dead after shooting on Las Vegas Strip; suspect ID'd

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mudslag    4,401
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooter/index.html

 

Las Vegas police are telling people to avoid the area around the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's Strip due to reports of an active shooter. Las Vegas Metro Police issued the warning in a post on Twitter early Monday.

 

 

 

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trag3dy    3,306
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I'm reading on twitter that there might be as many as 3 shooters with 1 "down". If so it's extremely coordinated and premeditated.

 

It at some sort of music concert/festival.

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Nefarious Trigger    6,821
6 minutes ago, trag3dy said:

I'm reading on twitter that there might be as many as 3 shooters with 1 "down". If so it's extremely coordinated and premeditated.

Or a shoot out with collateral damage?

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trag3dy    3,306
1 minute ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

Or a shoot out with collateral damage?

I'm not sure what you mean.

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Nefarious Trigger    6,821
2 minutes ago, trag3dy said:

I'm not sure what you mean.

You suggest this is a premeditated attack that is well organised.  Another possibility is either some sort of gang related thing or other escalated argument when guns are involved and people nearby are caught up in it.

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trag3dy    3,306
Just now, Nefarious Trigger said:

You suggest this is a premeditated attack that is well organised.  Another possibility is either some sort of gang related thing or other escalated argument when guns are involved and people nearby are caught up in it.

It was at a country western music concert. Do gangs typical hang out around those?

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mudslag    4,401

 

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Mockingbird    2,052

At least 2 dead and 24 injured.

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Nefarious Trigger    6,821
33 minutes ago, trag3dy said:

It was at a country western music concert. Do gangs typical hang out around those?

Country and western music fans and guns do tend to go hand in hand.  Gangs, yeah probably not but all it takes is one shooter and then another "I'll take him down".

 

Point being that nothing is known or confirmed yet, so saying it's planned is a guess.

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dipsylalapo    878

I'm reading reports of 20+ dead :(

 

Edit - To be honest the source is Piers Morgan so not sure how accurate. If it's true, very sad

 

Edit again - Confirmed

 

 

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+T3X4S    4,337
19 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I'm reading reports of 20+ dead :(

 

Edit - To be honest the source is Piers Morgan so not sure how accurate. If it's true, very sad

 

Edit again - Confirmed

 

 

The idiot just standing there in the pic while people in tactical are hiding....

My sister, brother-in-law, niece and nephew just left Vegas earlier Sunday - they were there for Imagine Dragons.

Not sure I hear 2 confirmed, then I see 20 and they are citing Huffington

 

 

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dipsylalapo    878
1 minute ago, T3X4S said:

The idiot just standing there in the pic while people in tactical are hiding....

My sister, brother-in-law, niece and nephew just left Vegas earlier Sunday - they were there for Imagine Dragons.

 

I was wondering and thought the same thing. 

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Jim K    8,923

^ That is so chilling.  :(

 

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Las Vegas gunman suspect is Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada: NBC News

 

  • Stephen Paddock, a 64-year-old man from Mesquite, NV, has been identified as the suspected gunman in the Las Vegas shooting
  • Over 20 people died and more than 100 were injured in the attack near Mandalay Bay hotel
  • Police are still looking for Marilou Danley who they believe was with the suspect before the shooting

 

The suspected gunmen in the Las Vegas shooting has been identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock from Mesquite, Nevada, according to NBC News.

 

Over 20 people died and more than 100 were injured after a gunman opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival which was taking place across the road from Mandalay Bay on the famous Las Vegas Strip.

 

Police said a suspect was apprehended on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel where he died.

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CNBC

 

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dipsylalapo    878

Death count is rising. Now at 50, with 200+ injured :(

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+John.    1,217

Why, if the shooter has an English name, is this not described as a terrorist attack? 

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xendrome    4,386
1 minute ago, John. said:

Why, if the shooter has an English name, is this not described as a terrorist attack? 

Terrorism "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

 

So until we know if his attack was based on political/idiological views, it's not "terrorism"

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Nefarious Trigger    6,821
11 minutes ago, John. said:

Why, if the shooter has an English name, is this not described as a terrorist attack? 

White American = "Lone wolf" obviously ;)

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Slugsie    692
5 minutes ago, xendrome said:

Terrorism "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

 

So until we know if his attack was based on political/idiological views, it's not "terrorism"

Except these days violent attacks tend to get branded as Terrorism until we know otherwise. Especially if the perpetrator has certain obvious characteristics.

Whatever this turns out to be however, it's a horrific attack by someone with problems. Yet again the US is waking up to the aftermath of such an event, but will this prompt anyone to actually do anything useful about the prevalence of such attacks? Will anyone with any actual clout suggest that just maybe there is no need for anyone to carry around an assault weapon?

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techbeck    5,008
19 minutes ago, John. said:

Why, if the shooter has an English name, is this not described as a terrorist attack? 

Because we do not have enough info to go off of right now.  Give it time.

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oldtimefighter    2,502
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I can't believe what woke up to this morning. :( Actually, I can totally believe it.

 

My initial angry thoughts...

 

Why wasn't all of the crowd armed? They could have returned a rain of hellfire back that could have left Mandalay Bay Casino in rumble within minutes.

 

The shooter must be white as it isn't being described as a terrorist attack and news people are already throwing out the mental illness angle.

 

Gun dealers must all be like I am going to be able to afford a two week Vegas vacation next month. $$$$$$$$$$

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+John.    1,217
11 minutes ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

White American = "Lone wolf" obviously ;)

Can't be having one of your own citizens labelled as a terrorist, because it means you're not doing something right.

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Brys    1,294
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9 minutes ago, John. said:

Can't be having one of your own citizens labelled as a terrorist, because it means you're not doing something right.

'cause of course if it's someone from another place then you've done everything right and these foreign people are just naturally born evil. /s

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