kiddingguy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I have an Asus notebook in which I installed 4 years ago 16 GB RAM. I now get several BSOD’s with windows.com/stopcode and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT errors. My notebook has been used intensively the last couple of years. Windows Memory Management says ‘No errors detected’, but still am I getting these BSOD’s ? Can it be bad RAM and do I need to replace it? Or might there be some other cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Run Memtest from a bootable cd or flashdrive and see what it says. EDIT: get the free version Mindovermaster and Radium 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted May 17, 2018 MVC Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, CrashGordon said: Run Memtest from a bootable cd or flashdrive and see what it says. EDIT: get the free version THIS! You won't know it's bad until you scan it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, CrashGordon said: Run Memtest from a bootable cd or flashdrive and see what it says. EDIT: get the free version This x2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: I have an Asus notebook in which I installed 4 years ago 16 GB RAM. I now get several BSOD’s with windows.com/stopcode and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT errors. My notebook has been used intensively the last couple of years. Windows Memory Management says ‘No errors detected’, but still am I getting these BSOD’s ? Can it be bad RAM and do I need to replace it? Or might there be some other cause? It can be many things, but running a scan will remove the bad memory assumption out of the equation. DO you have Win 7 or 10? Windows assign resources such as IRQs automatically and on some occasions when you manually install a HW device or a driver a conflict can occur, so check for that too, or try restoring your system from an earlier restoration point if you have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 remove one of the DIMMs and see if it boots. swap and repeat. DaveSharp 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jason S. said: remove one of the DIMMs and see if it boots. swap and repeat. Actually, that won't do anything... That only checks for bad RAM stick, not its innards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: Actually, that won't do anything... That only checks for bad RAM stick, not its innards. that's the point. check for bad RAM... +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason S. said: that's the point. check for bad RAM... RAM can be bad, but still usable. sc302 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted May 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2018 There is a memtest that you can use...you generally have to let it run for a while (sometimes is comes up fast, sometimes it comes up overnight). https://www.lifewire.com/free-memory-test-programs-2626178 Pick one, download the iso, test for 8-10 hours....if nothing comes up within that time, the guts are fine. Bad memory could allow the system to boot, bad memory could be heat related (cold boot is fine, but once it warms up enough it cannot process any more information). That is why memory testers like this exist. I have had a few server sticks go bad, but it allowed to boot..6hrs after boot, the tests showed up red (red is bad). Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, sc302 said: There is a memtest that you can use...you generally have to let it run for a while (sometimes is comes up fast, sometimes it comes up overnight). https://www.lifewire.com/free-memory-test-programs-2626178 Pick one, download the iso, test for 8-10 hours....if nothing comes up within that time, the guts are fine. Bad memory could allow the system to boot, bad memory could be heat related (cold boot is fine, but once it warms up enough it cannot process any more information). That is why memory testers like this exist. I have had a few server sticks go bad, but it allowed to boot..6hrs after boot, the tests showed up red (red is bad). Just get memtest, it's tested and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted May 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2018 ultimate boot cd also contains a few different memory testers from what I remember...I haven't used it in years. All free or free for personal use software. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/ultimate_boot_cd_(ubcd).html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) No errors were found on MemTest86. Kinda strange. I'll keep an eye on it, and maybe get myself some new RAM when/if needed.... EDIT: What is the average lifespan of these RAM sticks - Kingston PC3-12800H (twice KHX1600C9S3L/8G) in my case? Edited May 17, 2018 by kiddingguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted May 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2018 How many passes did you do? One isn’t good enough. If you ran in in the amount of time between me posting what to do and you posting it didn’t find anything, you didn’t perform the test properly. It must run for hours for a valid test to be conducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, sc302 said: How many passes did you do? One isn’t good enough. If you ran in in the amount of time between me posting what to do and you posting it didn’t find anything, you didn’t perform the test properly. It must run for hours for a valid test to be conducted. in total almost 4 hourish of several tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 Did you perhaps try checking a single stick with memtest? Sometimes with such a large volume, it can miss stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 passes, 0 errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) It could be something in Windows is just screwed up. Could you try a clean install, or boot up with a Linux Live CD and see if it has any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 I just upgraded to their latest Windows 10 April update. Might have something to do with this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: I just upgraded to their latest Windows 10 April update. Might have something to do with this?! Totally. A lot of people have had different problems with the latest build. Tomoko 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: I just upgraded to their latest Windows 10 April update. Might have something to do with this?! It's very possible, a web search for "Windows 10" and "Memory Management Error" turns up a lot of results. Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Rigby said: It's very possible, a web search for "Windows 10" and "Memory Management Error" turns up a lot of results. Not good. Hopefully Microsoft will fix this soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckordo Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, kiddingguy said: What is the average lifespan of these RAM sticks - Kingston PC3-12800H (twice KHX1600C9S3L/8G) in my case? Usually RAM does not age. Kingston is relatively good. BSOD can be bad drivers (had any updates recently?) or other components. Where is your Virtual Memory - SSD / HDD? are those drives working well and have they enough free space? You can use CrystalInfo to chech the SSD/HDD health. You could also specify what do you mean by intesive use - is it 24x7 word processing or video editing? Ok, I read all the posts. Most probably it is Windows April Update. However if you have SSD and you do intensive video editing then it would be worth checking its life expectancy (CrystalInfo). Also I hope you have enough free space on system disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conna Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Think of it like this. RAM is made of sand. Cooked to absolute perfect conditions. Shaped with light. Baked into a mold a thousand times over and over. Expected to function perfectly for many years at 100% usage without failure. Most do Some do not All it takes is 01 bits to flip and its junk. It's magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted May 18, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted May 18, 2018 Hello, Have you checked with Asus to make sure you have the latest UEFI (BIOS) firmware installed in the Asus N750JV notebook computer? Also, do you have the latest version of your anti-malware software installed (and have verified that it is compatible with Windows 10 Version 1803)? Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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