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California 'three states' plan OK'd for November ballot

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techbeck    6,181

An initiative to divide California into three states has received enough signatures to qualify it for the November ballot, the California secretary of state's office confirmed Tuesday.

 

The three-states campaign, dubbed “Cal-3,” submitted more than 600,000 signatures. 

 

Tim Draper, a billionaire Silicon Valley venture capital investor, sponsored the ballot measure to divide America’s most populous state into three jurisdictions, the Mercury News of San Jose, Calif., reported.

 

-- California would be made up of six mainly coastal counties, including Los Angeles, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties.

-- Northern California would include 40 counties from Santa Cruz to the Oregon border, including San Francisco and Sacramento, the state’s current capital.

-- Southern California would comprise 12 counties, including Fresno, Kern, Orange and San Diego counties.

 

“California government has rotted,” Draper told the Mercury News last month. “We need to empower our population to improve their government.”

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/13/california-three-states-plan-okd-for-november-ballot.html

 

Good luck...

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+Zagadka    3,078

Ugh, these plans have been constant and pointless.

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DocM    14,221
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Not pointless given the political differences between northern, mid-coastal and southern California, and the rest of the states are concerned about its outsize influence in DC and national elections. 

 

This electoral influence looks to be waning - California has been losing population (net, mostly its middle class) for years - 1 million in the last decade and 138,000/month  at the end of 2017. They can't bear the cost of Sacremento's spending sprees.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/californians-fed-up-with-housing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

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shockz    3,791
38 minutes ago, DocM said:

Not pointless given the political differences between northern, mid-coastal and southern California, and the rest of the states are concerned about its outsize influence in DC and national elections. 

 

This electoral influence looks to be waning - California has been losing population (net, mostly its middle class) for years - 1 million in the last decade and 138,000/month  at the end of 2017. They can't bear the cost of Sacremento's spending sprees.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/californians-fed-up-with-housing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

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Southern California and "new" California would probably still go blue. And North cali, looks to have those blue counties as the most populous as well.

 

Regardless, this won't ever pass.

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DocM    14,221
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40 minutes ago, shockz said:

Regardless, this won't ever pass.

 

But the middle class, who pay for Sacremento's excessive largesse, will continue leaving.

 

California is on the same nosedive trajectory as other blue states like Illinois, which is dying due to a high cost of living, high taxes, etc. In addition to these, California is  carrying 35% of the US welfare load due to its crazy illegals policy.  

 

It'll be fun while the middle class tax base still holds, but once they're gone.....

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Quillz    923

These proposals aren’t new. Serious attempts were made in 1915 and 1992. They didn’t pass then and it won’t pass now. 

 

There will be another one on the next ballot, too. 

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techbeck    6,181

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/22/californians-divided-on-whether-how-to-divide.html

 

The movement to slice up the state of California is reeling from internal clashes over what’s the best way to rearrange the state.

 

The Cal 3 measure, which seeks to break up America’s most populous state into three smaller states, recently gathered enough support to earn the right to appear on the Nov. 6 state election ballot, giving voters a historic chance to improve their representation on the national level.

But rather than get behind the upcoming vote, the separatist movement has fractured into multiple camps, each offering their own plans and criticizing each other for unfair dividing lines, the Washington Times reported.

 

Paul Preston, vice president and co-founder of the New California movement that want a two-state solution in California, based on rural-urban lines, says venture capitalist Tim Draper’s partition plan -- the one on which voters will vote in November -- wouldn’t address the issue of voter representation, as it would merely create two deep blue states and one swing state.

 

 

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TechJunkie81    472

Vladimir Putin is in favor of splitting up California and of course he found suckers to do his bidding.

 

This will never pass.

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Quillz    923
On 6/22/2018 at 4:58 AM, techbeck said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/22/californians-divided-on-whether-how-to-divide.html

 

The movement to slice up the state of California is reeling from internal clashes over what’s the best way to rearrange the state.

 

The Cal 3 measure, which seeks to break up America’s most populous state into three smaller states, recently gathered enough support to earn the right to appear on the Nov. 6 state election ballot, giving voters a historic chance to improve their representation on the national level.

But rather than get behind the upcoming vote, the separatist movement has fractured into multiple camps, each offering their own plans and criticizing each other for unfair dividing lines, the Washington Times reported.

 

Paul Preston, vice president and co-founder of the New California movement that want a two-state solution in California, based on rural-urban lines, says venture capitalist Tim Draper’s partition plan -- the one on which voters will vote in November -- wouldn’t address the issue of voter representation, as it would merely create two deep blue states and one swing state.

 

 

This is exactly why Draper’s proposal is a waste of time and won’t go anywhere. 

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