announcement Sad Trombone time

[Steven P. Administrators]

I have added the sad reaction so we can appropriately feel with our fellow Neowinians.

 

I hope you all join in being sad with me when the time calls for it.

 

[Steven P. Administrators]

I forgot to mention that the icon is free to use, if other sites are reading this and are like "Wow I need that sad reaction too, but I don't know if I will be sued out of business for using it" Well, you can use it for free.

[+Warwagon MVC]

So maybe a dislike alternative.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

Any plans to add this one?

 

[DConnell Member]

54 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said:

Any plans to add this one?

 

So I can apply it to every one of Wakjak's posts?

[techbeck]

1 hour ago, warwagon said:

So maybe a dislike alternative.

Pretty much what it is.  A dislike/thumbs down alternative.  And will be used as such.  When the thumbs down was removed, the haha reaction was used for posts that people did not like.  Like laughing/making fun of a comment someone made.  But whatever I guess.

Edited July 26, 2018 by techbeck

[Steven P. Administrators]

31 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Pretty much what it is.  A dislike/thumbs down alternative.  And will be used as such.  When the thumbs down was removed, the haha reaction was used for posts that people did not like.  Like laughing/making fun of a comment someone made.  But whatever I guess.

Whoa, the haha one was added dislike and downvote were disabled, as well as Love.

 

[+Warwagon MVC]

47 minutes ago, Steven P. said:

Whoa, the haha one was added dislike and downvote were disabled, as well as Love.

 

 

 

Oh there is a downvote.. Sweet... turn it on! Err.. is that -1 for the week or -1 for your lifetime total? Because "Sad" would give a person a like point. Which if we disagree they shouldn't be getting rewarded. Also, why did you turn of the Dislike, it looks like it's neutral anyway. Doesn't even count for or against a person.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

4 minutes ago, warwagon said:

Oh there is a downvote.. Sweet... turn it on! Err.. is that -1 for the week or -1 for your lifetime total? Because "Sad" would give a person a like point. Which if we disagree they shouldn't be getting rewarded. Also, why did you turn of the Dislike, it looks like it's neutral anyway. Doesn't even count for or against a person.

Well the idea is not to use the Sad for downvoting/disliking someones post, hence the +1. Arguably it could be neutral too. 

 

Dislike was taken away because there were members that were abusing it and going through other members post history and disliking everything. 

 

If something similar happens to Sad, it'll go the same way

[+Warwagon MVC]

5 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

Dislike was taken away because there were members that were abusing it and going through other members post history and disliking everything. 

 

So? Honestly, who cares. It was neutral! So there were thumbs down next to peoples post, it didn't count for or against their like count. 

Same goes for Sad, Sad actually ADDS a like.. I mean, if every single person could be sad about my post that would be amazing!!!!! I'd win every week!

[Matthew S.]

I hate to say this, I really do, but I agree with Warwagon on this...

[techbeck]

8 minutes ago, warwagon said:

So? Honestly, who cares. It was neutral! So there were thumbs down next to peoples post, it didn't count for or against their like count. 

Same goes for Sad, Sad actually ADDS a like.. I mean, if every single person could be sad about my post that would be amazing!!!!! I'd win every week!

Even tho it didnt count towards stats, over use/abuse of the thumbs down just give the community a wrong impression of your posts and contributions to the site.

[+Warwagon MVC]

5 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Even tho it didnt count towards stats, over use/abuse of the thumbs down just give the community a wrong impression of your posts and contributions to the site.

You could actually click it the dislike icon on someone's post and see who disliked the post. You could see the same person disliking certain individuals posts. They don't hide the names of the people doing the disliking.

[shockz]

6 minutes ago, techbeck said:

Even tho it didnt count towards stats, over use/abuse of the thumbs down just give the community a wrong impression of your posts and contributions to the site.

No. It wasn’t. But snowflakes couldn’t handle that they might actually be wrong on something and cheered for it’s removal. Guess those slaps in the face got to be too much. 

[techbeck]

2 minutes ago, warwagon said:

You could actually click it the dislike icon on someone's post and see who disliked the post. You could see the same person disliking certain individuals posts. They don't hide the names of the people doing the disliking.

I know.  But was not my point.  If a user sees a lot of posts from one person being down voted, they get a bad opinion of that person regardless if it counts positively.   Reason why thumbs down was removed, at least one of the reasons.  Abuse

[Dysphoria]

IMHO all these social media response acknowledgment is total bull.... The idea is to stimulate discussions not express feelings and troll people with likes/dis-likes... I can mention few people that just overly "abuse" the emoji usage without posting any content ... but whatever works for Neowin

That being said.. I like the sad face ?

[+Warwagon MVC]

1 minute ago, techbeck said:

I know.  But was not my point.  If a user sees a lot of posts from one person being down voted, they get a bad opinion of that person regardless if it counts positively.   Reason why thumbs down was removed, at least one of the reasons.  Abuse

I'm sure those posts had a mix up both ups and downs.  If all that person's posts were always downvoted then maybe there was a reason. But if it had a downvote right next to an upvote it's clear some people just are downing the post, but other people like it.

[techbeck]

4 minutes ago, warwagon said:

I'm sure those posts had a mix up both ups and downs.  If all that person's posts were always downvoted then maybe there was a reason. But if it had a downvote right next to an upvote it's clear some people just are downing the post, but other people like it.

If someone down votes because they do not like/disagree with a post (and has a valid reason), fine.  But like what was mentioned, people were abusing it and going thru past posts and down voting everything for users.  Why the feature was removed.   People do not agree with others, that is a given and accepted. But to just negatively mark posts because you do not like someone is just childish and does nothing to help the community.

[+Warwagon MVC]

1 minute ago, techbeck said:

If someone down votes because they do not like/disagree with a post, fine.  But like what was mentioned, people were abusing it and going thru past posts and down voting everything for users.  Why the feature was removed.   People do not agree with others, that is a given and accepted. But to just negatively mark posts because you do not like someone is just childish and does nothing to help the community.

 

To be fair you already think this community is dead except for a lively political thread, where I would really like to use the downvote

[techbeck]

4 minutes ago, warwagon said:

To be fair you already think this community is dead except for a lively political thread, where I would really like to use the downvote

I don't think the community is dead. Maybe dying since the most popular and active thread on the site, a tech site, is political.  I just remember a time when tech forums were the busiest, Back Page News for example.  Wouldnt be so bad if it was not the same comments over and over and the same old bitching and moaning.  And now a lot of forums there are no posts for hours/days/weeks but you can pretty much guarantee there is political activity.  I have hidden a few forums from showing up in the mini spy so I am doing my best to avoid them.

 

But hey, I am still here trying to post other areas but it is kind of hard considering activity in those areas is down.

[shockz]

8 minutes ago, techbeck said:

If someone down votes because they do not like/disagree with a post (and has a valid reason), fine.  But like what was mentioned, people were abusing it and going thru past posts and down voting everything for users.  Why the feature was removed.   People do not agree with others, that is a given and accepted. But to just negatively mark posts because you do not like someone is just childish and does nothing to help the community.

Examples? Calling BS on that one. And if so, that particular user could of been dealt with instead of turning a feature off for the entire site. Hardly an epidemic like you're making it out to be.

[Circaflex]

7 minutes ago, shockz said:

Examples? Calling BS on that one. And if so, that particular user could of been dealt with instead of turning a feature off for the entire site. Hardly an epidemic like you're making it out to be.

It was actually pretty common, there was a group of friends here who did the same to my posts from last year. It was reported by me and I spoke with a mod about it, however, there wasnt much staff could do is what I was told. I know there was also a few users in other areas that would specifically downvote anything said by an individual that had a different opinion. Most of those users now though are either banned or left, or just a straggler here and there.

[techbeck]

Just now, Circaflex said:

It was actually pretty common, there was a group of friends here who did the same to my posts from last year. It was reported by me and I spoke with a mod about it, however, there wasnt much staff could do is what I was told. I know there was also a few users in other areas that would specifically downvote anything said by an individual that had a different opinion. Most of those users now though are either banned or left, or just a straggler here and there left.

?  And a mod here even mentioned it was abused.  If it was not abused, it would have stayed.

[shockz]

11 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

I know there was also a few users in other areas that would specifically downvote anything said by an individual that had a different opinion.

Why is that a bad thing? If they agreed with said opinion, they'd have liked it instead of down voting... wasn't that the point?

[Steven P. Administrators]

Well, people mustn't forget that certain people threatened to (and did) leave the site if we kept the "ignore"  option disabled, so we have some active members that can't operate without an ignore function, how will those same people take being downvoted, and knowing who does it? I know what happened last time we enabled it lol!

 

There's a reason Facebook refuses to add unlike/dislike or downvote.