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Is DDR4-3200 really necessary for a computer strictly made for homeschool?

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slamfire92    1,658
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

Oh, so if something is more expensive, it must be better, right?

 

Another fallacy

Not necessarily but you're odds can be better.

 

Show me examples of this level of cheap on a PSU working out long-term.

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adrynalyne    9,857
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

NVIDIA recommends a 400W power supply for a PC with Geforce GTX 1060

I guess a video card is the only thing that uses power.  Good point.

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Mockingbird    2,440
4 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

DDR4-3200 is faster, therefore it must be better isn't valid either, but its an argument you made.

I never said that.

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Mindovermaster    1,526
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

NVIDIA recommends a 400W power supply for a PC with Geforce GTX 1060

That is "minimum". You have to put in all the other parts, too..

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+DevTech    1,252
3 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

Seriously? Despite 450W limiting upgrades, it is bronze certified, making it much less efficient.

At 10 bucks, corners are cut somewhere.

 

3 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

That is what we are trying to hit his head with, but he keeps "ducking"

Because he has located a higher quality power supply than you have probably ever used for $40 with rebates to make it $10 and it will power that "nothingness" computer reliably forever.

 

I understand that Mockingbird is often a bit out there and I have disagreed with him on many occasions but really, this time he has located of gem of a power supply that fits the config perfectly and just let him bask in that glory please because he is correct and right on this debate.

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Mockingbird    2,440
Just now, adrynalyne said:

I guess a video card is the only thing that uses power.  Good point.

Did you even bother to read?

 

NVIDIA recommends a 400W power supply for a PC with a Geforce GTX 1060

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adrynalyne    9,857
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

I never said that.

5 hours ago, Mockingbird said:

The difference is $10.

 

Why not get the faster memory?

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Mindovermaster    1,526
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

I never said that.

You did say it, maybe not out loud, when you suggested the 3200 RAM.

1 minute ago, DevTech said:

 

Because he has located a higher quality power supply than you have probably ever used for $40 with rebates to make it $10 and it will power that "nothingness" computer reliably forever.

 

I understand that Mockingbird is often a bit out there and I have disagreed with him on many occasions but really, this time he has located of gem of a power supply that fits the config perfectly and just let him bask in that glory please because he is correct and right on this debate.

YES, but any updates to the system, and he'll need a new PSU.

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Mockingbird    2,440
Just now, Mindovermaster said:

You did say it, maybe not out loud, when you suggested the 3200 RAM.

I post a graph from PCWorld to support what I said.

 

I never said, "Just get faster memory because it is better".

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adrynalyne    9,857
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

Did you even bother to read?

 

NVIDIA recommends a 400W power supply for a PC with a Geforce GTX 1060

Did you? Video cards are clearly not the only thing that uses power. Nvidia has no fricking clue whats in your PC to determine how much is currently in use. Plus, lets add Bronze efficiency to it!

Just now, Mockingbird said:

I post a graph from PCWorld to support what I said.

 

I never said, "Just get faster memory because it is better".

True, you said get faster memory because its only 10 bucks more. ?

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Mindovermaster    1,526

See adrynalyne's post above.

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slamfire92    1,658

Roll your dices and take your chances.

 

Sorry for even weighing in.

 

Have a great rest of weekend guys and good luck OP.

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Mockingbird    2,440
4 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

That is "minimum". You have to put in all the other parts, too..

What else are you going to put in a budget PC?

 

A custom loop liquid cooler?

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+DevTech    1,252
Just now, adrynalyne said:

Did you? Video cards are clearly not the only thing that uses power. Nvidia has no fricking clue whats in your PC to determine how much is currently in use. Plus, lets add Bronze efficiency to it!

Given that we are talking about $10 either way, I would rather have a rock solid Bronze Super Flower than a Gold No-Name any day...

 

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Mockingbird    2,440
1 minute ago, adrynalyne said:

Did you? Video cards are clearly not the only thing that uses power. Nvidia has no fricking clue whats in your PC to determine how much is currently in use. Plus, lets add Bronze efficiency to it!

True, you said get faster memory because its only 10 bucks more. ?

NVIDIA assume that you probably have processor, motherboard, motherboard, etc that is required for the computer to function. 

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zhangm    1,293

Off-topic posts have been removed. Please try and keep the discussion relevant to the starting post.

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Mindovermaster    1,526
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

What else are you going to put in a budget PC?

 

A custom loop liquid cooler?

HDD/ODD/SSD's, Motherboard, RAM, CPU, CPU cooler, Fans?

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adrynalyne    9,857
Just now, DevTech said:

Given that we are talking about $10 either way, I would rather have a rock solid Bronze Super Flower than a Gold No-Name any day...

 

Then get a name brand gold for a little more saved from not buying the wasteful ddr4-3200.  Thats been my point all along.

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Mindovermaster    1,526
1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

NVIDIA assume that you probably have processor, motherboard, motherboard, etc that is required for the computer to function. 

It can't guess that. An ITX board vs ATX is a BIG difference.

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adrynalyne    9,857
2 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

NVIDIA assume that you probably have processor, motherboard, motherboard, etc that is required for the computer to function. 

And nothing extra. Thank you for clarifying.

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Mockingbird    2,440
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

HDD/ODD/SSD's, Motherboard, RAM, CPU, CPU cooler, Fans?

You didn't think that NVIDIA would assume that people would have processors, motherboards, memory, hard drives, etc in their PCs when it recommended a 400W power supply for a PC with a Geforce GTX 1060?

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Mindovermaster    1,526
Just now, Mockingbird said:

You didn't think that NVIDIA would assume that people would have processors, motherboards, memory, hard drives, etc in their PCs when their recommended a 400W power supply for a PC with a Geforce GTX 1060?

Well, they can't guess you have 3200 RAM, either, so...

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adrynalyne    9,857
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1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

You didn't think that NVIDIA would assume that people would have processors, motherboards, memory, hard drives, etc in their PCs when their recommended a 400W power supply for a PC with a Geforce GTX 1060?

You are assuming either way. Better safe than stupid.

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+DevTech    1,252
10 minutes ago, slamfire92 said:

Not necessarily but you're odds can be better.

 

Show me examples of this level of cheap on a PSU working out long-term.

Failure to read.

 

It is not a "cheap" PSU. Super Flower makes some of the world's best PC PSUs. It will keep on ticking long after the rest of the components have popped their capacitors...

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Mockingbird    2,440
1 minute ago, adrynalyne said:

And nothing extra. Thank you for clarifying.

So what else would you need?

 

A pump for a custom loop?

2 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

Well, they can't guess you have 3200 RAM, either, so...

Reading must not be your strong point.

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