jnelsoninjax Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 So my niece is 14, and has proven that she can not be trusted to go where she claims she is going, and her dad has her gmail password so he can use the find my phone to locate her, however, she has gotten wise to this and turns off location, so it can not be found. We have tried to talk to her about this, but she will not stop doing it, and we have also tried a program called Life 360, but she disables and/or removes the program so she can not be tracked. We have explained to her that our only intention is to know where she is, nothing more then that. So my question is what (if anything) can we do to the phone to prevent her from being able to turn off location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted December 26, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted December 26, 2018 Hello, You might want to check about setting the device up with adult and child permissions, as well as installing security software that offers additional parental control features. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted December 26, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted December 26, 2018 From the sounds of it the problem that you're going to have is that she'll soon figure that out as well, and then she'll just put the phone in to airplane mode and only turn it off to check her notifications and promptly turn it on again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniacidz Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Samsung? Cos I just tried with the Samsung Find My Mobile and forces the location to be turned on even if was turned off Can do from a web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) I know you said it's your niece and maybe not your responsibility, but I'd start by taking phone away and not allowing her to go anywhere! Probably get busted for abuse or some kind of dumb stuff like that in today's world, but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 hours ago, goretsky said: Hello, You might want to check about setting the device up with adult and child permissions, as well as installing security software that offers additional parental control features. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky That sounds like it might be the best method, can you recommend a program that we could look into? 1 hour ago, uniacidz said: Samsung? Cos I just tried with the Samsung Find My Mobile and forces the location to be turned on even if was turned off Can do from a web page No, it is not a samsung, the phone she had before was a Samsung, but she is also very careless and often drops the cell phone, causing the screen to be cracked, and the cost to repair the screen is almost as much as the phone cost, so her dad bought her a different phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentedAphid7 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 10:32 PM, Riva said: Try and workout the issue with the kid isntead of trying to use technology to enforce behaviour. Otherwise just get a GPS tracker 😛 Not till she throw that in the trash as well lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Well for now I managed to remove Location and Airplane mode from the top pull down menu, and I do not think she knows how to go through settings and find either one, so this should buy some time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DentedAphid7 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, jnelsoninjax said: Well for now I managed to remove Location and Airplane mode from the top pull down menu, and I do not think she knows how to go through settings and find either one, so this should buy some time! Isn't ther a cog icon somewhere on the top as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Sounds like it’s time to take away her phone and have her experience the consequences of being dishonest. You shouldn’t have to go through loops and hoops for something like this. The moment she removed life360 would of been a phone ban offense in my book. If communication is a concern, there are still plenty of flip phones around. exotoxic and Brandon H 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, DentedAphid7 said: Isn't ther a cog icon somewhere on the top as well? Yes, but she doesn't know about that... 38 minutes ago, shockz said: Sounds like it’s time to take away her phone and have her experience the consequences of being dishonest. You shouldn’t have to go through loops and hoops for something like this. The moment she removed life360 would of been a phone ban offense in my book. If communication is a concern, there are still plenty of flip phones around. I agree as well, but her father seems to be far too lenient with everything that goes down, I can only do so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 28, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted December 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, shockz said: Sounds like it’s time to take away her phone and have her experience the consequences of being dishonest. You shouldn’t have to go through loops and hoops for something like this. The moment she removed life360 would of been a phone ban offense in my book. If communication is a concern, there are still plenty of flip phones around. agreed; there are times you just need to put your foot down as a parent/family (advise parent to put foot down). the phone is a privilege and you/they set rules and stipulations with that privilege; she broke that rule and then further defied you by removing life360 so there should be consequences of temporarily losing the privilege. If she knows she can get away with it she's just going to keep doing it. Honestly the harder you make it the more she's just going to dig on how to bypass whatever you've done; only a matter of time before she learns how to wipe her own phone and load a custom ROM at that rate. It's time for the parents to parent; the teenage years are the hardest that's for sure, especially in this time of technology as we've begun to lean on it like a crutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Brandon H said: agreed; there are times you just need to put your foot down as a parent/family (advise parent to put foot down). the phone is a privilege and you/they set rules and stipulations with that privilege; she broke that rule and then further defied you by removing life360 so there should be consequences of temporarily losing the privilege. If she knows she can get away with it she's just going to keep doing it. Honestly the harder you make it the more she's just going to dig on how to bypass whatever you've done; only a matter of time before she learns how to wipe her own phone and load a custom ROM at that rate. It's time for the parents to parent; the teenage years are the hardest that's for sure, especially in this time of technology as we've begun to lean on it like a crutch Oh I agree 100%, I feel that the biggest problem is that since my niece watched her mother get hit and killed, and her dad has had to step up and be the parent/authoritarian figure/etc (he has been in her life, but never really 'hands on' same with his son) there has been (and still is) a fair amount of tension between father/daughter and rather then punish her, he just wants to pacify everything (makes huge threats, but never follows through). I guess I may have to step up and just tell him this is what we are going to do, period, point blank, no backing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 28, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, jnelsoninjax said: Oh I agree 100%, I feel that the biggest problem is that since my niece watched her mother get hit and killed, and her dad has had to step up and be the parent/authoritarian figure/etc (he has been in her life, but never really 'hands on' same with his son) there is has been (and still is) a fair amount of tension between father/daughter and rather then punish her, he just wants to pacify everything (makes huge threats, but never follows through). I guess I may have to step up and just tell him this is what we are going to do, period, point blank, no backing down. yes, they've been through some hard times but you'd be doing them a favor by stepping in at this point. With a living situation like that things are only going to continue to degrade and get worse unless one of them makes a point to start trying to change and sometimes they just need a little push/help from someone trusted like other family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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