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Which Linux for a newbie who doesn't like change ... coming from Windows (7)?

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Technique    36
38 minutes ago, xMorpheousx416 said:

 

 

No.  Don't confuse "drives" with "partitions".

I wasn't - which is why i said physical drives.

The Windows 7 install that my wife uses is on a 2TB Seagate SSHD for example.

The Windows 7 install that i use is on a 256GB Samsung SSD drive.

If i put Linux on its own drive then looking at what's available it'd end up being the Seagate 2TB HDD (Note: NOT the 2TB SSHD i just mentioned).

 

Hence the 3 different physical drives.

 

On the topic of partitions to show i do understand what you mentioned - the wife's drive that has Windows 7 on it is partitioned so there's 2 partitions running off the 1 physical drive - the partition her OS is installed on and then the other partition on the SSHD physical drive is for her photos/videos/documents etc.

 

 



Using Windows Management, you can shrink the volume of the drive/partition.  Windows will let your shrink the volume depending on how much free space is available.

Warning:  messing around with any partition already in use, may lead to data loss or corruption.  This is an "at your own risk" decision.

 

This is why i just came back here now. Right now the suitable drive would be the Seagate 2TB but it is currently 1 lump with 684GB free (will be more when i delete stuff).

 

Let's say i want 300GB to have a 'play' with Linux to see if i like it. Do i just shrink it to create a new partition of 300GB ... and then install Linux to that?

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Technique    36

I wanted to get it installed tonight but i ran out of time after doing other things so it'll be a job for tomorrow.

 

It gives me the chance to ask what can i do if i decide i don't like it and want to then revert from the triple boot (2x Windows 7, 1x Linux Mint) back to the dual boot of 2x Windows 7?

 

Is it as simple as just erasing the partition that Linux Mint is on and then merging it back with the rest of that drive or would it not then boot to Windows? If not then how would i remove Linux mint & its partition and THEN still boot to Windows?

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Mindovermaster    2,170
30 minutes ago, Technique said:

I wanted to get it installed tonight but i ran out of time after doing other things so it'll be a job for tomorrow.

 

It gives me the chance to ask what can i do if i decide i don't like it and want to then revert from the triple boot (2x Windows 7, 1x Linux Mint) back to the dual boot of 2x Windows 7?

 

Is it as simple as just erasing the partition that Linux Mint is on and then merging it back with the rest of that drive or would it not then boot to Windows? If not then how would i remove Linux mint & its partition and THEN still boot to Windows?

You can just leave it on. It's not going to bite you...

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Technique    36

Ok that’s one option. 

 

Now for anyone who can actually answer the question...?

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adrynalyne    12,156
4 hours ago, Technique said:

I kept running in to guides showing Windows 10 so wasn't sure if it was the same deal within Windows 7 or not.

 

 

For all intents and purposes, it’s the same. 

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Technique    36

Hmm well this isn't going well.

 

Put the Linux Mint .iso on both a DVD and a USB stick.

 

Tried booting to the USB stick - no joy.

 

Tried booting to the DVD, i select this as the boot option and then it just goes straight to the dual boot screen and nothing happens.

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adrynalyne    12,156
2 minutes ago, Technique said:

Hmm well this isn't going well.

 

Put the Linux Mint .iso on both a DVD and a USB stick.

 

Tried booting to the USB stick - no joy.

 

Tried booting to the DVD, i select this as the boot option and then it just goes straight to the dual boot screen and nothing happens.

Make a flash drive installer with Rufus.

https://rufus.ie/


Partition Scheme: UEFI assuming your machine isnt that old

File system: fat32

 

 

 Copy in ISO mode.

 

Turn off secure boot in your BIOS settings if it exists.

 

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Technique    36
21 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

Make a flash drive installer with Rufus.

https://rufus.ie/


Partition Scheme: UEFI assuming your machine isnt that old

File system: fat32

 

 

 Copy in ISO mode.

 

Turn off secure boot in your BIOS settings if it exists.

 

After posting my last post i actually Googled how to dual boot Linux to check another way and i got this link: https://itsfoss.com/guide-install-linux-mint-16-dual-boot-windows/

 

Followed the guide, booted to the USB drive and all i get is a message saying remove discs or other media and then press any key to restart.

 

I removed discs, disconnected other USB drives but still get this message and then when i press 'any key to restart' it doesn't restart, it just goes straight to the dual boot screen.

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adrynalyne    12,156
7 minutes ago, Technique said:

After posting my last post i actually Googled how to dual boot Linux to check another way and i got this link: https://itsfoss.com/guide-install-linux-mint-16-dual-boot-windows/

 

Followed the guide, booted to the USB drive and all i get is a message saying remove discs or other media and then press any key to restart.

 

I removed discs, disconnected other USB drives but still get this message and then when i press 'any key to restart' it doesn't restart, it just goes straight to the dual boot screen.

See attached.

 

Did you make sure secure boot is not enabled in the BIOS?

Have you set the boot order for the thumb drive to be the first?

Annotation 2019-01-13 151739.png

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Technique    36

I've just tried your link but it almost instantly 'sticks'. I need 2 files apparently, so i click 'yes' to download them and then it just does nothing.

 

I searched it and saw people claiming it to be the users connection. Nothing wrong with my connection though. I've been downloading content all day.

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adrynalyne    12,156
1 minute ago, Technique said:

I've just tried your link but it almost instantly 'sticks'. I need 2 files apparently, so i click 'yes' to download them and then it just does nothing.

 

I searched it and saw people claiming it to be the users connection. Nothing wrong with my connection though. I've been downloading content all day.

Dunno. There is nothing wrong with the Rufus site on my end. 

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Technique    36
2 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

See attached.

 

Did you make sure secure boot is not enabled in the BIOS?

Have you set the boot order for the thumb drive to be the first?

Annotation 2019-01-13 151739.png

I saw no mention of secure boot in the BIOS.

 

No i didn't set the USB drive to be first but i did hit the trigger to select boot order and selected it manually from that.

 

For my screenshot, the partition scheme is MBR, target system is BIOS or UEFI and cluster size is 4096 default.

 

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adrynalyne    12,156
Just now, Technique said:

I saw no mention of secure boot in the BIOS.

 

No i didn't set the USB drive to be first but i did hit the trigger to select boot order and selected it manually from that.

 

For my screenshot, the partition scheme is MBR, target system is BIOS or UEFI and cluster size is 4096 default.

 

How old is your machine? Did you try GPT?

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Technique    36

I don't know if this makes a difference but i searched this UEFI thing you mention in line with my motherboard and apparently i don't have it https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/is-uefi-supported-in-m4a88td-v-evo-usb3.2544591/

 

Not tried GPT yet.

 

 

EDIT: Why did the DVD not work? Is it because i just put the .iso on there like an image? Does it need to be made bootable somehow as in i can't just select the disc to boot to?

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Mindovermaster    2,170
10 minutes ago, Technique said:

EDIT: Why did the DVD not work? Is it because i just put the .iso on there like an image? Does it need to be made bootable somehow as in i can't just select the disc to boot to?

You have to "burn" it, not just putting the .iso on the disc....

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Technique    36
7 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

You have to "burn" it, not just putting the .iso on the disc....

You've replied to a few of my posts lately only for people to then correct you so you'll have to forgive me for waiting on someone else.

 

And for the record i did 'burn' it. Right click the file & send to the burner drive ... and then burn it to the disc. Isn't that the process of getting something from your PC to a CD/DVD (burning it)?!

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Mindovermaster    2,170
2 minutes ago, Technique said:

You've replied to a few of my posts lately only for people to then correct you so you'll have to forgive me for waiting on someone else.

 

And for the record i did 'burn' it. Right click the file & send to the burner drive ... and then burn it to the disc. Isn't that the process of getting something from your PC to a CD/DVD (burning it)?!

Then wait. We all make mistakes. Is why we have 100k plus members on here.

 

you should see several folders on your DVD, not just the .ISO file.

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Technique    36

Still googling this. Tried out something called etcher which claims to be another approach.

 

Weird thing is it was 'successful' yet there's only like 1 folder 2 files on the USB drive now, even though it's full & they only take up 2mb in space. Makes no sense to me.

 

Time to hit the sack.

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Technique    36

Just tried it before going to bed. Closer, yet not.

 

Put the USB drive in and it actually brings up the Linux screen and the count down.

 

The screen then goes totally black and my DVD drive opens up & that's as far as it gets. No disc in the drive.

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Mindovermaster    2,170

It "can" be possible that you got a bad ISO or a USB drive that doesn't like your computer...

 

You have to wait for the full desktop to come up. (After the countdown screen) It can take some time.

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Technique    36

Some time = more than 5 minutes?

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adrynalyne    12,156
6 hours ago, Technique said:

Some time = more than 5 minutes?

No. 

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adrynalyne    12,156

Let’s try a different approach and distro for now.

 

 

https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/

 

Get the Fedora media creator, install it and make a bootable flash drive from it. 

 

Then try to boot to it. 

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