Hiding one drive from another within Windows 7 or Windows 10.


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+BudMan

you can do that in the registry  - but that is only hiding it from the gui is not user can still just go to d:\ in the address bar from my understanding.

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sc302

I do believe it is disabled from command as well.  It is a function I have enabled for one of my rdp servers and can easily verify. 

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Technique

On the topic of being able to hide one drive from another (or however you wish to phrase it but you know what i'm trying to achieve here)...

 

Again you have 2 physical drives. Drive 1 & drive 2.

 

Drive 1 has Windows 7/10 on it

Drive 2 has a form of Linux on it. Likely Mint but i haven't decided. Basically i'm interested in dual booting Windows & Linux in the future as i'm curious enough about linux to give it a proper go.

 

Can you see the files on one drive from the other? Or not so with them being different OS?

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42 minutes ago, Technique said:

On the topic of being able to hide one drive from another (or however you wish to phrase it but you know what i'm trying to achieve here)...

 

Again you have 2 physical drives. Drive 1 & drive 2.

 

Drive 1 has Windows 7/10 on it

Drive 2 has a form of Linux on it. Likely Mint but i haven't decided. Basically i'm interested in dual booting Windows & Linux in the future as i'm curious enough about linux to give it a proper go.

 

Can you see the files on one drive from the other? Or not so with them being different OS?

Linux should be able to read NTFS, windows will probably not read the linux partition.

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Technique

Hmm. In that case, like with the removing a drive letter that I currently do, is there a way to remove the drive letter for what would be the Windows drive, so that you then can’t access the windows drive from the Linux drive?

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+BudMan

You do not use drive letters in linux ;)  would just be "mounted" to a folder off / somewhere.. But if you don't mount the drive, then it would be visible - but prob nothing stopping linux user from mounting the drive.

 

While linux can read ntfs, windows can read other file systems as well - would depend on what filesystem you have setup in linux, Ext3, Ext4, BtrFS, Reiser4 - maybe you just using Fat32/NTFS - then sure windows would be able to read this drive if has been mounted and windows has the drivers for that file system.  There use to be a 3rd party windows driver ext2fsd, that could read linux ext types.  There are for sure 3rd party software that you can run on windows to read these disks.

 

Lets be clear, if you have physical access to the machine - you can always pretty much do anything you want.  I could just boot the system from a stick and access anything on the drives.. Unless the drives are encrypted - physical access means access. No matter what the "permissions" set.

 

Shoot could just open the PC pull out the disk and connect it to usb dock and read its contents.. Only way to protect against such action is encryption of the disk/files.

 

Security through Obscurity (hiding) is not Security ;)

 

The measures needed to be put in place to prevent access comes down to sensitivity of the files, does the user have local access, what is the skill set of the user(s)..  Normally in a home setup, storing the files in your own profile folders, or setting permissions on the files/folders root of the disk would keep your typical user out of them.

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5 hours ago, BudMan said:

 

Lets be clear, if you have physical access to the machine - you can always pretty much do anything you want.  I could just boot the system from a stick and access anything on the drives.. Unless the drives are encrypted - physical access means access. No matter what the "permissions" set.

See the problem is that i get the impression here people are answering this from the viewpoint of me challenging them to crack in to my files/folders if i was to put THEM in the situation. They, in this thread, seem to be taking that puff out the chest, walk with a swagger, nobody can stop me because i'm so clever attitude.

 

But if they read the scenario being asked about, they'd realise that it isn't even like that, which brings me on to the next quote....

5 hours ago, BudMan said:

 

The measures needed to be put in place to prevent access comes down to sensitivity of the files, does the user have local access, what is the skill set of the user(s)..  Normally in a home setup, storing the files in your own profile folders, or setting permissions on the files/folders root of the disk would keep your typical user out of them.

^^ THIS.

 

Now the profiles will be passworded. If we ever have tradesmen working in our house and we have to trust them to do work then a simple profile password should keep them out. I don't imagine they'd even turn the PC on, 99.9% of tradesmen wouldn't as it's their business on the line, but for 'just in case' purposes .... the profiles will be passworded.

Those in the house however may have need, at times, to use another persons profile. Person A could be on the machine, have left it running in their profile, person B comes along and wants to just check something - let me just check this real quick. Point is ... there may be instances.

 

Now on to the topic of skillset ... nobody in this household and nobody visiting this household will think ... if i just remove this drive and get this other drive and mix up some magic potion, POOF, now i have access to files. No no no, that just wont happen.

Again, nobody will think if i just mount this and click that and then do a bit of trickery here then X will appear in Y and all i need to then do is search for Z ... POOF, got what i wanted.

 

 

The most likely thing will be...

 

Wonder what's in My Docs folder .... takes a look. Nothing.

Same for Pics, same for videos, same for music. All the obvious looking.

Goes in to Computer - sees another drive, wonder what's there - clicks.

 

With the skillset we're talking of, that is the most likely thing to happen & that may be where it stops. However, granted, there may also be another possibility of - if i just type this [searchword] in here i'll see what comes up.

 

To get round all of that ... should solve the issue.

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On 8/30/2019 at 10:29 AM, Technique said:

See the problem is that i get the impression here people are answering this from the viewpoint of me challenging them to crack in to my files/folders if i was to put THEM in the situation. They, in this thread, seem to be taking that puff out the chest, walk with a swagger, nobody can stop me because i'm so clever attitude.

 

But if they read the scenario being asked about, they'd realise that it isn't even like that, which brings me on to the next quote....

^^ THIS.

 

Now the profiles will be passworded. If we ever have tradesmen working in our house and we have to trust them to do work then a simple profile password should keep them out. I don't imagine they'd even turn the PC on, 99.9% of tradesmen wouldn't as it's their business on the line, but for 'just in case' purposes .... the profiles will be passworded.

Those in the house however may have need, at times, to use another persons profile. Person A could be on the machine, have left it running in their profile, person B comes along and wants to just check something - let me just check this real quick. Point is ... there may be instances.

 

Now on to the topic of skillset ... nobody in this household and nobody visiting this household will think ... if i just remove this drive and get this other drive and mix up some magic potion, POOF, now i have access to files. No no no, that just wont happen.

Again, nobody will think if i just mount this and click that and then do a bit of trickery here then X will appear in Y and all i need to then do is search for Z ... POOF, got what i wanted.

 

 

The most likely thing will be...

 

Wonder what's in My Docs folder .... takes a look. Nothing.

Same for Pics, same for videos, same for music. All the obvious looking.

Goes in to Computer - sees another drive, wonder what's there - clicks.

 

With the skillset we're talking of, that is the most likely thing to happen & that may be where it stops. However, granted, there may also be another possibility of - if i just type this [searchword] in here i'll see what comes up.

 

To get round all of that ... should solve the issue.

Simply have the screen saver kick in at 5 minutes and require a password. 

For what you just described, it solves 95% of the issue.

Education of locking the screen does the rest then.   

 

My wife comes to use my computer, and selects her profile and logs in as herself. 

I normally just let the screen saver kick in. 

 

 

 

 

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+BudMan

I ran across the solution of hiding your stuff ;) 

 

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This is perfect and easy to do too ;)

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Technique

It's interesting that people knee-jerk to n0rp.

 

While i'm not disputing the fact, the question isn't limited to that. Banking details would be another that i'd like hidden for example.

 

And no not from my wife before anyone starts with that idea.

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adrynalyne
1 hour ago, Technique said:

It's interesting that people knee-jerk to n0rp.

 

While i'm not disputing the fact, the question isn't limited to that. Banking details would be another that i'd like hidden for example.

 

And no not from my wife before anyone starts with that idea.

So, porn then. 
 

😂
 

Not a great way to hide your banking details. How bout use an external and unhook it when you aren’t using it?

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Mindovermaster
7 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

Not a great way to hide your banking details. How bout use an external and unhook it when you aren’t using it?

Think this was suggested several times... :whistle:

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adrynalyne
3 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

Think this was suggested several times... :whistle:

Maybe the 20th time sinks in. Just maybe. 

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Mindovermaster
1 hour ago, adrynalyne said:

Maybe the 20th time sinks in. Just maybe. 

Or maybe a few more pages... :rolleyes:

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Technique
12 hours ago, Mindovermaster said:

Think this was suggested several times... :whistle:

I wondered how long it’d be before you appeared again. 

Should I ask Budman to make the worlds shortest post so you can follow him around with the thumbs up again? ;)

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+NJ Louch

Jesus the attitude here. I try and explain why your paradigms and thinking are wrong, and you accuse people of puffing their chest and being arrogant!

 

You ask for help, you get correct answers, you dislike that they don’t fit some weird niche use case you have awkwardly invented, you get stroppy.

 

Strange!

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Mindovermaster
6 hours ago, Technique said:

I wondered how long it’d be before you appeared again. 

Should I ask Budman to make the worlds shortest post so you can follow him around with the thumbs up again? ;)

Actually I quoted in here before. You obviously missed that.

 

To what Human.Online said, yeah. We give you advice and you swat us away with your logic. And accuse us of so much, that I barely ever look at your posts. It's pointless.

 

Edit: And I didn't come on here because of BudMan, so get off my shoulders. I am still giving suggestions, take it, or leave it.

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adrynalyne
7 hours ago, Technique said:

I wondered how long it’d be before you appeared again. 

Should I ask Budman to make the worlds shortest post so you can follow him around with the thumbs up again? ;)

You know, as someone who is a professional a-hole, I learned long ago that if you want to get away acting like one, you better not burn your bridges and need help from those you mistreat. Someone can only afford to be an a-hole if they are self-sufficient and you clearly are not. Don’t go down this path, I urge you. 

TL;DR

Your behavior in this thread is becoming a joke. Take the help you get and be nice about it. Or don’t get any on the future. 

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