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As of now Windows 7 is more secure than Windows 10

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jimmy_jazz    58

Following the final security patches to Windows 7 yesterday and the disclosure by the NSA of a massive security flaw in Windows 10

 

it is ironic that for the next thirty days Windows 7 is actually more secure than Windows 10.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/nsa-windows-10-vulnerability-disclosure/

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+BudMan    3,649
7 hours ago, jimmy_jazz said:

it is ironic that for the next thirty days Windows 7 is actually more secure than Windows 10.

Yeah not true at all..  You might want to actually read the articles you link to ;)

 

First line!!

"Microsoft released a patch for Windows 10 and Server 2016 today"

 

So where do you come up with 30 days?

 

 

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+xrobwx71    827

Windows 10 1909 is Microsoft's MOST secure OS to date.  

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+Zag L.    748

And remember, that crypto lib defect impacts nearly every version of Windows back to Win 2000. This is by no means a Win 10 issue.

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neufuse    4,144
On 1/16/2020 at 2:50 PM, jimmy_jazz said:

Following the final security patches to Windows 7 yesterday and the disclosure by the NSA of a massive security flaw in Windows 10

 

it is ironic that for the next thirty days Windows 7 is actually more secure than Windows 10.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/nsa-windows-10-vulnerability-disclosure/

you know this same flaw is in windows 7 too right?.........

 

heck windows vista are impacted... windows 8, 8.1, XP....... all used this same library

 

and to quote the article you apparently didn't read...

 

"That flaw was present in all versions of Windows available at the time, and the NSA had known about the bug—and exploited it for digital espionage—for more than five years."

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jimmy_jazz    58

To be fair I was probably drunk when I posted that  sweetie x

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adrynalyne    13,126
31 minutes ago, jimmy_jazz said:

To be fair I was probably drunk when I posted that  sweetie x

Doesn’t make it any less wrong or forgivable. Sweetie. 

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jimmy_jazz    58

Stop ganging up on me I'm a sick man.

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TheGhostPhantom    264
5 minutes ago, jimmy_jazz said:

Stop ganging up on me I'm a sick man.

Incorrect posts like this is the reason people will continue to use Windows 7.  However, somebody also made an incorrect statement, this flaw only existed in some of the newer versions of Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016+

 

It was also already patched.

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Riva    1,280

Nobody discloses bugs before a patch is ready, except for Google ofc

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+BudMan    3,649

Bugs/Exploits are disclosed all the time before there is a patch ;)  This is what happens when someone finds something, and the responsible party to fix it doesn't do anything.. This forces their hand most of the time ;)

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George P    5,954

The NSA told MS about it and they fixed it so it's all good.   The next time there's some bug of this level that also impacts Windows 7 it'll be interesting to see what users who refused to upgrade to 10 will do.  Of course there's that "switch to linux" narrative going around but if they don't want to upgrade to a newer version of the same OS you think they'd want to totally change?

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shockz    6,916
30 minutes ago, George P said:

The NSA told MS about it and they fixed it so it's all good.   The next time there's some bug of this level that also impacts Windows 7 it'll be interesting to see what users who refused to upgrade to 10 will do.  Of course there's that "switch to linux" narrative going around but if they don't want to upgrade to a newer version of the same OS you think they'd want to totally change?

Outside of tech forums, the average consumer probably doesn’t even know that windows 7 is EOL, let alone its now insecure or how to install Linux. Most will just stay on 7 until their computer dies. 

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+Ryster    798
3 minutes ago, shockz said:

Outside of tech forums, the average consumer probably doesn’t even know that windows 7 is EOL, let alone its now insecure or how to install Linux. Most will just stay on 7 until their computer dies. 

Well outside of these forums, the average consumer will have windows updates enabled and will have seen the Windows 7 end of life notice from Microsoft... so :)

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shockz    6,916
16 minutes ago, Ryster said:

Well outside of these forums, the average consumer will have windows updates enabled and will have seen the Windows 7 end of life notice from Microsoft... so :)

Still stand by what I said. They’re clueless. And I’ve saw it in person. 

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cork1958    1,863
37 minutes ago, shockz said:

Outside of tech forums, the average consumer probably doesn’t even know that windows 7 is EOL, let alone its now insecure or how to install Linux. Most will just stay on 7 until their computer dies. 

Unfortunately, you are 100% correct! Almost have to hope that those people also didn't know how to block the automatic upgrade to Windows 10. Took somebody at least a little tech savvy to do that.

 

Heck, even I upgraded wife's computer to Windows 10 before EOL for Windows 7 and I don't like 10 the least bit. That is a little bit of a lie. I have grown accustomed to it, but prefer Linux Mint personally now.

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waysidesc    360

jimmy_jazz

why you get my hopes up for something serious?

 

not that i thought it would be 'more secure' but.....

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+warwagon    13,520

After Windows 7's final patch Tuesday there is still a zero day in IE allowing for remote code execution, which will now live in windows 7 for home users forever. I'd say it's no longer safe to use. You could use a differnet browser but apps could still exploit it. 

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waysidesc    360
9 minutes ago, warwagon said:

After Windows 7's final patch Tuesday there is still a zero day in IE allowing for remote code execution, which will now live in windows 7 for home users forever. I'd say it's no longer safe to use. You could use a differnet browser but apps could still exploit it. 

but removing IE removes the executable, unregisters protocol handlers, etc

wouldn't that be good enough?

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+warwagon    13,520
6 minutes ago, waysidesc said:

but removing IE removes the executable, unregisters protocol handlers, etc

wouldn't that be good enough?

Maybe. But i'm just wondering about the mom and pops who are still using windows 7 with IE as their browser of choice. Sadly I still see it all the time :(

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Matthew S.    1,114
21 hours ago, waysidesc said:

but removing IE removes the executable, unregisters protocol handlers, etc

wouldn't that be good enough?

You do realize when you uncheck IE in the "windows features" box all it does is hide the internet explorer folder, it doesn't uninstall IE since it's tied in deeply with Windows 7 and below.

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waysidesc    360
24 minutes ago, Matthew S. said:

You do realize when you uncheck IE in the "windows features" box all it does is hide the internet explorer folder, it doesn't uninstall IE since it's tied in deeply with Windows 7 and below.

i didn't write that it uninstalled IE

i said it removes the executable, etc.


Windows 7 was the first to allow this.

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Matthew S.    1,114
33 minutes ago, waysidesc said:

i didn't write that it uninstalled IE

i said it removes the executable, etc.


Windows 7 was the first to allow this.

It doesn't though it removes the shortcuts.  iexplorer.exe is still there.

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adrynalyne    13,126
1 hour ago, waysidesc said:

i didn't write that it uninstalled IE

i said it removes the executable, etc.


Windows 7 was the first to allow this.

False. Windows 10 can do that. Unsure about 8. 

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waysidesc    360
59 minutes ago, Matthew S. said:

It doesn't though it removes the shortcuts.  iexplorer.exe is still there.

no; it really is not. if you remove it... you can test for yourself by typing iexplore.exe in the run prompt.

26 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

False. Windows 10 can do that. Unsure about 8. 

dear adrynalyne

 

i think you misread my comment.

 

i did not write (or mean to imply) that Windows 10 cannot do that---only that Windows 7 was the first to allow this. Windows 8 and 8.1 can do this too.

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