[Official] Xbox Series X & Series S Discussion


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George P

A bit off topic but for any Xbox insiders , they turned on multi-login so you can be connected to your account from more than one device.  

 

 

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dipsylalapo

Xbox Series S and X coming Nov 10th, pre orders from Sept 22nd

 

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Whether you’re upgrading to the newest consoles or joining the Xbox family for the first time, Xbox All Access is the easiest way to get the best of Xbox. Xbox All Access provides an Xbox Series X, or Series S, along with 24 months of the full Xbox Game Pass Ultimate experience. In total, that means you get access to:

  • The next-generation Xbox console of your choice
  • Over 100 high-quality games to play on console, including next-gen Optimized games
  • Over 100 high-quality games to play on PC
  • An EA Play membership to play more than 60 of EA’s biggest and best console and PC games
  • And over 100 games to play from the cloud

That’s all with no upfront costs and a low monthly price. Xbox Series S will be available starting from $24.99 a month for 24 months and Xbox Series X will be available starting from $34.99 a month for 24 months.

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dipsylalapo

Pricing also confirmed

 

 

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Skiver

So both plans offer a slight discount (we're talking something like £20-40) if you planned to retain the Game Pass Ultimate Sub running for two years. I definitely think I'll be heading down this route, feels like a pretty simple and obvious choice to me.

 

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dipsylalapo

It's a shame that the savings aren't as much. For Series X, it's about £17.

 

My GPU still runs until Jan 2021 so will probably just end up ordering the console on its own and buy GPU when I need it.

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12 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

It's a shame that the savings aren't as much. For Series X, it's about £17.

 

My GPU still runs until Jan 2021 so will probably just end up ordering the console on its own and buy GPU when I need it.

I would have assumed it would just extend your current GPU sub for a few months but fair enough.

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1 minute ago, Skiver said:

I would have assumed it would just extend your current GPU sub for a few months but fair enough.

Reading through the detail, it sounds like you get a code for GPU, so you can redeem it whenever. I think MS limit it to three years at most, so you'll need to have 12 months or less GPU. 

 

If you just have Gold or Game Pass, it'll convert to GPU using some black magic....

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George P

This bit here is big news for GPU.

 

 

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Skiver
7 minutes ago, George P said:

This bit here is big news for GPU.

 

 

I think this is one of those things that sounds better than it actually is. EA Access or now EA Play has never really interested me so it's not something I see myself actually using all that much, however, it is still good news.

 

Also don't confuse this with EA Play Pro (I only just learnt that was a thing today anyway) that gives you access to the latest games - this will be the older titles, 10 hour trials and discounted EA games only.

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So, specs are out, CPU same, I/O same though SSD is half the size.  RAM is a little less at 10GB but since you're not targeting 4k you don't need as much RAM as the Series X does.    Very solid system for 1080p and 1440p gamers out there.

1 minute ago, Skiver said:

I think this is one of those things that sounds better than it actually is. EA Access or now EA Play has never really interested me so it's not something I see myself actually using all that much, however, it is still good news.

 

Also don't confuse this with EA Play Pro (I only just learnt that was a thing today anyway) that gives you access to the latest games - this will be the older titles, 10 hour trials and discounted EA games only.

True, but with how often they release their sports titles, heck having access to last years isn't that bad IMO.    Plus it's just very good PR/marketing in the end.

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2 minutes ago, George P said:
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So, specs are out, CPU same, I/O same though SSD is half the size.  RAM is a little less at 10GB but since you're not targeting 4k you don't need as much RAM as the Series X does.    Very solid system for 1080p and 1440p gamers out there.

True, but with how often they release their sports titles, heck having access to last years isn't that bad IMO.    Plus it's just very good PR/marketing in the end.

Glad to see the spec differences confirmed, if you're not someone who needs the biggest and best the Series S is a really really attractive option.

 

oh it's still great value to be added, but I think this more about the PR impact, it looks better then it probably is.

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George P

Size comparisons going on, pretty small, solid design IMO.  I'm indifferent to the black color vent, it is what it is.

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Probably just me, but without a new Halo I'm not feeling a need to buy this.

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George P
9 minutes ago, margrave said:

Probably just me, but without a new Halo I'm not feeling a need to buy this.

That's fine if that's what you're looking forward to, I think there's a number of games coming besides Halo to play.  And the whole Game Pass bit is worth it overall.    I'm going to get the X at some point, probably not on day 1 but a bit later, game pass ultimate then has me covered for quite some time as far as what to play.

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15 hours ago, George P said:
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Size comparisons going on, pretty small, solid design IMO.  I'm indifferent to the black color vent, it is what it is.

 

 

Holy crap, I had no idea how tiny it would be. May pick this one up as something to have the in the office when it goes on sale or gets some good bundles.

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3 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

 

 

Holy crap, I had no idea how tiny it would be. May pick this one up as something to have the in the office when it goes on sale or gets some good bundles.

People want to criticize the size of the Xbox from time to time but somehow give the PS a pass.  The PS4 and PS4 Pro aren't exactly on the small side.  And god does the PS5 look huge as well.  

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Skiver

I'll probably buy it day one because I'm a sucker who needs the new and shiny. 

 

I think for me I don't really care about the new games, I'm more looking forward to the stuff I'm currently playing, running better. Load times in games like No mans sky are horrendous so if the promo videos are anywhere near true that alone will be worth it for me

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6 minutes ago, Skiver said:

I'll probably buy it day one because I'm a sucker who needs the new and shiny. 

 

I think for me I don't really care about the new games, I'm more looking forward to the stuff I'm currently playing, running better. Load times in games like No mans sky are horrendous so if the promo videos are anywhere near true that alone will be worth it for me

Coming from a One S. I cannot wait to fire up No Man's Sky and play in 4K HDR

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https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-series-x-and-s-will-be-first-ever-consoles-with-dolby-vision-gaming
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SnoopZ

The memory bandwidth is low on the S and some Devs suggest it maybe an issue, only time will tell.

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George P

How do these devs handle working on PC versions of their games I wonder.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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