NVIDIA'S RTX 30xx Series (rumors, teases, etc)


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Jim K

Caveat:  Obviously nothing is official until August 31.

 

First, let's start with the size of this thing (RTX 3090) ... three slot behemoth:

 

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RIP SFF.  Note:  This is the rumored RTX 3090 Founders Edition so AIB will have a different design.

 

NVIDIA, at least on their card, will be introducing 12-pin power connector (while AIB's may stick with 2-3x standard PCIe 8-pin).  German HardwareLUXX has apparently received this adapter cable from Seasonic.  It is a bit interesting as the 12-pin itself is smaller than the standard 8-pins.

 

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Also, the box states that "a power supply rated 850 W or higher" is recommended. 

 

Rumored are the prices...will see how this holds up:

3060 - $400

3070 - $600

3080 - $800

3090 - $1400

 

According to Hexus the RTX 3090 uses 12GB of 21Gbps GDDR6X memory theoretically breaking the 1TB/s barrier for total bandwidth.  Though other rumors are it could have ~20GB video memory.

 

I'm particularly curious of what happened to the "Ti" version, for example a 3080Ti....is the 3090 replacing it?

 

Anyway, take everything here with a grain of salt until NVIDIA officially announces it.

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Mindovermaster

Yeah, I read about that, massive..

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Ci7

never seen the gain worth while with Top of the range $$$ wise 

 

far better of with 2nd or even 3rd like 1070 GTX vs 1080 TI

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eddman

The cards in that image are actually not to scale. This is the corrected one. It's still quite bigger, but not the monstrosity shown in the first image.

 

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EDIT: I almost always buy mid-range; really wish 3060 would not be more than $300. It almost certainly won't happen though, unless AMD starts a price war like they did with their HD 4000 line up, but given their financial situation, that seems unlikely too.

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Jim K

Another image of the 12-pin power connector compared to the standard PCIe plugs.

 

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Jim K

Updated rumored launch/specs ... September launch for all three:

 

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 features GA102-300 GPU with 5248 cores and 24GB of GDDR6X memory across a 384-bit bus. This gives a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 936 GB/s. Custom boards are powered by dual 8-pin power connectors which are definitely required since the card has a TGP of 350W.

 

The GeForce RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to the 320-bit memory bus and 19 Gbps memory modules. This SKU has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors.

 

The GeForce RTX 3070 also launches at the end of next month (unless there is a change). We can confirm it has 8GB of GDDR6 memory (non-X). The memory speed is estimated at 16 Gbps and TGP at 220W. The CUDA Core specs are still to be confirmed.

Another variant of the 3080 (maybe the Ti?) is rumored to have 20GB memory.

 

Source:  Videocardz

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+Biscuits Brown

If the rumors are true, we'll find out Monday.

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Jim K
On 8/28/2020 at 4:31 PM, Jim K said:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 features GA102-300 GPU with 5248 cores and 24GB of GDDR6X memory across a 384-bit bus. This gives a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 936 GB/s. Custom boards are powered by dual 8-pin power connectors which are definitely required since the card has a TGP of 350W.

 

The GeForce RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to the 320-bit memory bus and 19 Gbps memory modules. This SKU has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors.

 

The GeForce RTX 3070 also launches at the end of next month (unless there is a change). We can confirm it has 8GB of GDDR6 memory (non-X). The memory speed is estimated at 16 Gbps and TGP at 220W. The CUDA Core specs are still to be confirmed.

 

 

 

Looks like they underestimated the number of CUDA cores.

RTX 3090

10496

 

RTX 3080

8704

 

RTX 3070

5888

 

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Next rumor is a 3070Ti with 16GB of memory...more than the 3080 though it probably has the slower 256-bit memory bus and non-X GDDR6.  

 

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Interestingly, Lenovo also confirmed that their Legion T7 system will feature the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti model. This SKU has not been announced or even teased by NVIDIA in any form. Though, it aligns with the rumors that RTX 3070 series will be offered with both 8GB and 16GB memory. What remains unclear is whether the model is really called 3070 Ti or 3070 SUPER, we have heard both names in private conversations with AIBs.

Videocardz

 

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Also, I found this video interesting ... Digital Foundry hands-on with the RTX 3080.  Not a full review ... but interesting.  They seem very impressed.

 

 

 

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Brandon H

On your question of the Ti I'd like to think they're going back to their old release pattern. I didn't like how they released the Ti models at the same time as the normal ones on the last couple gens. Made more sense when the Tis were a minor hardware refresh a year or 2 later in the gen; hopefully they're going back to that pattern.

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+Biscuits Brown

Well, come October, there's a 3070 with my name on it. 2080Ti performance for 500 bucks, sign me up. 

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Steven P.
43 minutes ago, Zag L. said:

Well, come October, there's a 3070 with my name on it. 2080Ti performance for 500 bucks, sign me up. 

I only bought my 2070 RTX Super last October, whatdo? 😢 

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adrynalyne
8 minutes ago, Steven P. said:

I only bought my 2070 RTX Super last October, whatdo? 😢 

Buy my 1 month old 2080 Super. 😁

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Mindovermaster
14 minutes ago, Steven P. said:

I only bought my 2070 RTX Super last October, whatdo? 😢 

 

eBay? Or Neobay? lol

 

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Steven P.
3 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

 

eBay? Or Neobay? lol

 

Maybe some kind member will pay me €400 for it 😛 (it cost me €555.95).

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Jim K

Updates for:

 

-3080 NDA lift date/time

-3070 release date.

 

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Hey everyone - two updates for you today.

First, GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition reviews (and all related technologies and games) will be on September 16th at 6 a.m. Pacific Time.

Get ready for benchmarks!

Second, we’re excited to announce that the GeForce RTX 3070 will be available on October 15th at 6 a.m. Pacific Time.

Nvidia

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Jim K

Reviews should be dropping in a couple of hours.

 

You can find the RTX 3080 on eBay now .... for ~$1200.  Yikes.  Always wondered how these scalpers get their hands on products before they are released (if indeed they have them on hand).

 

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Mindovermaster

I assume LTT will have a review of it... They get a lot of stuff before release.

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Jim K

Pretty much all of the major site reviews have dropped with respect to the 3080 Founders Edition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

....etc

 

Basically, a beast... faster than the 2080Ti ... Linus was disappointed mostly with Nvidia's claim (I guess) of it being twice as fast as the 2080Ti (which it isn't for games).

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On 16/09/2020 at 06:08, Jim K said:

Reviews should be dropping in a couple of hours.

 

You can find the RTX 3080 on eBay now .... for ~$1200.  Yikes.  Always wondered how these scalpers get their hands on products before they are released (if indeed they have them on hand).

 

They use scalper bots that buy in milliseconds. I've been reading up on it, didn't even know they existed.

 

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Jim K
On 18/09/2020 at 06:50, xrobwx71 said:

Yea, seen some videos with regards to the scalper bots.  Some guy also created a bot which artificially rose eBay prices (which is why you were seeing cards going for $50k+) ... haha.

 

NewEgg put out a tweet a few days ago saying that they experienced more traffic than black Friday during the 3080 release.

 

 

 

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Other cards (not official of course)

 

A 3060 w/ 8GB

A 3070 w/ 16GB

and of course the 3080 w/ 20GB

(Super?  Ti?)

 

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ZakO

"Bot protection was in place, orders were human" lol. Newegg have no idea what percentage of the orders were human, that's the point of bots that evade all known detection methods (even easier these days with tools like puppeteer). I managed to get an order in for the Founders Edition 3080 for RRP (£649), now just have to hope it turns up some time within the next few days and they didn't oversell.

 

I was going to wait for the 3070 but after seeing the 3080 being only ~20% faster then an overclocked 2080 Ti I can't imagine the 3070 is going to match the 2080 Ti like NVIDIA claimed. 

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1 hour ago, ZakO said:

"Bot protection was in place, orders were human" lol. Newegg have no idea what percentage of the orders were human, that's the point of bots that evade all known detection methods (even easier these days with tools like puppeteer). I managed to get an order in for the Founders Edition 3080 for RRP (£649), now just have to hope it turns up some time within the next few days and they didn't oversell.

 

I was going to wait for the 3070 but after seeing the 3080 being only ~20% faster then an overclocked 2080 Ti I can't imagine the 3070 is going to match the 2080 Ti like NVIDIA claimed. 

How would they know? It's an IP # Unless they have some algorithm looking at the speed and quantity from one IP.  Humans just arn't that fast, sorry Newegg, you protections did not work. 

 

Glad you got one, congrats!

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Jim K

I'm particularly interested in the 3080 20GB version.  Hopefully it will fall in around the $1K mark (between the 3080 and 3090).

 

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