kongit Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I had installed mandrake previously on my system and it ran smoothly but it had one hitch: every once and a while it would just up and turn off my computer. just beep and it was off. I also didn't care much for mandrake and decided to go with a different distro. After reading much good about Gentoo I decided to get it. now about my system: I have a 5100 inspiron dell laptop with p4 2.4ghz, 512 meg mem, 40 gig hard, and winxp pro. xp is on 25 gigs of my hardrive and I reformatted the rest. another peculiarity, my harddrive shows up as hdc. After getting rid of mandrake by reformatting the rest of the disk lilo remained so I tried to use fixmdb in the recovery console, but that screwed up my xp and it wouldn't load. So instead of persuing fixing xp (I didn't have anything important on it saved that I hadn't backed up to cds) I decided on a total hardisk format and xp install and to give myself more space for linux. Right now I am typing this through my xp which is on a 22 gig partition. So xp works now. Since I had xp working (which it still does) I decided to try to install gentoo from cds that I had burned and md5'd before reformatting and reinstalling windows. What I have done so far: I created a 32 meg ext3 boot partition, a 512 meg swap, and the rest is reiser. I have gotten to the genkernel part succesfully following the directions printed out before hand. I chose a stage-3 non grp install. So I emerged genkernel and it installed correctly (to the best of my knowledge) on my computer. I run "genkernel all" and it starts off working right, but in the middle of compiling the kernel modules my computer does the aforementioned beep and quit. I said to myself "damn" and booted the computer back up and mounted all my drives and chrooted like I did before and ran genkernel again, and it did the same thing. So I said to myself "damn" and booted up and read through the boot opitions and it said something about noapic so I started with "gentoo noapic" I don't know if this is the correct command for this, but it started correctly. I mounted and chrooted and ran genkernel one more time. it beeped and quit on me again. This has sufficiently confused me enough to ask for help here. I need my linux fix and I don't want to reinstall mandrake or spend a long time downloading another distro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjordan2001 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 My suggestion: try it without genkernel. You should be able to find out most of the modules you need by doing an lsmod before you enter the chroot. Then just type "make menuconfig" and run through and check what you need. Sounds like it may be some module it's trying to compile messing you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 will try tomorrow. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemical Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 genkernel is still buggy, best way to go is manually compile your kernel, its not hard ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Alright I got the kernel installed correctly by manually doing it. So I continued installing getnoo, but somewhere in the emerging of xfree-drm my computer decided to shut off (I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500. I used the command: VIDEO-CARDS="ATI Mobility Radeon 7500" emerge xfree-drm). I started it and waited around for about an hour and got bored and decided to go and do something. I left and came back after 2 hours and my computer was off. I don't know if it installed correctly or not, and I have no idea what to do at this point. Should I try to install xfree-drm again, or do I need to do other steps before attempting to install it like checking if it installed correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienThree Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I'm not exactly sure what's causing the shutoff problem, but it sounds like some sort of power management thing. Try appending acpi=off to the kernel boot parameters. Maybe it will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjordan2001 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Alright I got the kernel installed correctly by manually doing it. So I continued installing getnoo, but somewhere in the emerging of xfree-drm my computer decided to shut off (I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500. I used the command: VIDEO-CARDS="ATI Mobility Radeon 7500" emerge xfree-drm). I started it and waited around for about an hour and got bored and decided to go and do something. I left and came back after 2 hours and my computer was off. I don't know if it installed correctly or not, and I have no idea what to do at this point. Should I try to install xfree-drm again, or do I need to do other steps before attempting to install it like checking if it installed correctly? Unless they changed it in the latest version, you should use: VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" emerge xfree-drm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 I finally gave up on gentoo and installed slackware. I am happy to say that I have succesfully gotten xp and slackware to dual boot. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjordan2001 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I finally gave up on gentoo and installed slackware. I am happy to say that I have succesfully gotten xp and slackware to dual boot. :) Awww, as much as I like Slackware, I love Gentoo a lot more. Too bad you gave up so easily. Never had the system reboot while emerging something, that's kind of odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 I agree that it was very odd. My suspicions lie with the fact that I am using a laptop, but who knows I am liking slackware a lot more than mandrake. I would probably like gentoo more, but alas I am not going to spend another 48 hours trying to install it when slackware took an hour to install. I still need a little help though. My internet connection in slack isn't working right. I live at college and connect to the ethernet in my room to access the internet. For some reason I can't seem to get slack to acknowledge this and get it to work right. in the loading it has the eth0 set to the ethernet card right (a broadcom 440). What even stranger is that the live cd of gentoo will connect to the internet right, mandrake did it automatically too. So I used netconfig for dhcp but with no avail...I couldn't get it to work. I tried netconfig again and entered the ip address manually and chose ip instead of dhcp. I could ping addresses, but just the actual numeric addresses. If I pinged my server which is 165.32.0.30 (not its real number) it would work. how ever if I pinged www.google.com or http://www.google.com it wouldn't work. It said that the host couldn't be found. I got the nameserver from the resolv.conf off of the gentoo live cd when it was running. Also I need it set up as dhcp because my ip address changes every 3 hours. any thoughts? /me is off to look for more info on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted February 11, 2004 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2004 I could ping addresses, but just the actual numeric addresses. If I pinged my server which is 165.32.0.30 (not its real number) it would work. how ever if I pinged www.google.com or http://www.google.com it wouldn't work. It said that the host couldn't be found. If you can't ping outside of your school's network, then my bet is on the fact that your schools has a PROXY you must go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Candyman Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 umm...sounds to me like it's overheating and shutting off...since you know, it's sudden.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 how would I find if/what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjordan2001 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 If you can access a webpage or anything else just fine, you're good. I can never seem to ping out either, and I'm on a college network as well. If you can't ping out, you might not be able to do certain things, like I can't update my time off the internet with some apps, but everything else works fine. So my guess is it's the way your network is set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted February 11, 2004 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2004 how would I find if/what it is? Do you have a working PC nearby that you could check the settings on? Windows/Linux/Mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 This one is dual booting with xp and xp works perfectly fine on the internet. And it was just plug and play after I installed the drivers for the ethernet card. It was even easier for mandrake and gentoo live cd. I didn't have to install anything, the internet "just worked". I think that slackware is detecting my card because when it loads you can see a line that says something about eth0 and Broadcom (my driver). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted February 11, 2004 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2004 I didn't have to install anything, the internet "just worked". That is called DHCP. It sets your IP, subnet, any gateways/proxies/etc. If you set your IP up as 'static', as you said you did, then things may not work unless you get all of your settings right. To get your Slack working on the internet, you will need to either a) get DHCP working or b) set up your static info the same as a DCHP-served PC does. My suggestion about looking at another PC that was working, was an attempt to have you look for information that you will need to set up to communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 alright I finally got it working. :woot: I had to get the driver for it from broadcom :huh: slackware didn't have it while gentoo and mandrake did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daem0hn Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 even if ur computer did shutdown during emerge, it doesnt mean anything, i often shut my computer off during emerge(usually by mistake) however, emerge has download resume, and it can resume in teh middle of an emerge, so all u needed to do was type emerge <what u were emerging> and it will resume :) too bad u gave up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 oh well, I am enjoying slackware. this whole experience har really helped me learn a lot about linux. I still haven't got slack fully configured yet (I have to get audio working and my printer) but I have no worries. I think i can do it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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