bikeman25 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Wondering if i should go ahead and update this Intel-SoftwareComponent via Windows Update Posting to Make sure i don't install something i shouldn't lol, getting used to the way Windows Update handles drivers update still now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 9, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 hours ago, bikeman25 said: Wondering if i should go ahead and update this Intel-SoftwareComponent via Windows Update You don't need to install it at this time. That's why it is under "optional updates." From what I could find, it looks like it is related to i3 and i5 processor chips, and seeing as your signature says you have i7 chips that is probably why it is under the optional updates section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Oh Ok Thank you, then leaves it alone, and doesn't worry on it, and yes both my systems are I7 based chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Some of those optional updates it's been showing are totally wacked out lately. I have one for this computer for a HP printer that I don't have and never have had. Not even the same family of printers. Luckily, it won't install. Didn't really pay attention to that fact when I first saw it as there were a few other optional updates that day. Had an update for network card that was way older than current one on another computer but that optional update went away on it's own. Is there a way to make it so that printer driver quits showing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, cork1958 said: Some of those optional updates it's been showing are totally wacked out lately. I have one for this computer for a HP printer that I don't have and never have had. Not even the same family of printers. Luckily, it won't install. Didn't really pay attention to that fact when I first saw it as there were a few other optional updates that day. Had an update for network card that was way older than current one on another computer but that optional update went away on it's own. Is there a way to make it so that printer driver quits showing up? Uninstall the driver on your computer that’s being identified as such and that will go away. 🙂 Windows Update does not and cannot differentiate between devices used and drivers installed. What brand of computer is it? HP used to preload a ton of their printer drivers on OEM machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 This is a Custom built PC, Custom built by local shop in 2020, Gigabyte B460M-DS3H/Intel 10700 Processor, Windows 10 Pro x64, HP Envy 4520 printer as well.. I just didn't know what the heck that went to, so didn't install it as yet, system running great otherwise lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 15:38, adrynalyne said: Uninstall the driver on your computer that’s being identified as such and that will go away. 🙂 Windows Update does not and cannot differentiate between devices used and drivers installed. What brand of computer is it? HP used to preload a ton of their printer drivers on OEM machines. Kind of strange. It "knows" what hardware is installed... see e.g.: About > Device specifications, Device Manager etc etc So, why not "differentiate" on that info and come up with only the right and correct one... I also see this on my gaming machine. It's annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready2018 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I believe that driver updates have been moved from device manager to optional updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, kiddingguy said: Kind of strange. It "knows" what hardware is installed... see e.g.: About > Device specifications, Device Manager etc etc So, why not "differentiate" on that info and come up with only the right and correct one... I also see this on my gaming machine. It's annoying. Because what if a device is currently unplugged or turned off? Should you never get driver updates in those situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready2018 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: Because what if a device is currently unplugged or turned off? Should you never get driver updates in those situations? When the device is plugged in and turned on the device driver will be loaded into memory otherwise it won't be, so therefore doesn't matter if it doesn't get updated until it's plugged in and turned on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ready2018 said: When the device is plugged in and turned on the device driver will be loaded into memory otherwise it won't be, so therefore doesn't matter if it doesn't get updated until it's plugged in and turned on You missed my point. See my previous posts. That’s now how WU works apparently. AFAIK, WU has never triggered upon turning on or connecting a device, so that scenario would never play out. Edited October 12, 2020 by adrynalyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready2018 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, adrynalyne said: You missed my point. See my previous posts. That’s now how WU works apparently. AFAIK, WU has never triggered upon turning on or connecting a device, so that scenario would never play out. The only thing that has now changed is that you will get notified of any driver updates, where before unless you went into device manager and manually selected each device and updated each one you would never know it had an update, technically they have just put it back to the days of XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Ready2018 said: The only thing that has now changed is that you will get notified of any driver updates, where before unless you went into device manager and manually selected each device and updated each one you would never know it had an update, technically they have just put it back to the days of XP You again missed my whole point. You are arguing a what-if scenario that isn’t even a thing, never has been, and wasn’t the point to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I still am confused as to why Microsoft/Windows 10 keeps bugging me with these Optional Updates. Today there are presented. What's for tomorrow in store? What to do with it? Install them, or - when no issues are present, or at least noticeable - just let them be? Why are they shown? And, besides the wushowhide-tool, how to get rid of 'em? Screenshot is made on another notebook of mine, the VivoBook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 2, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted December 2, 2020 I've just recently disabled driver updates from WU through the registry personally and rely on the free version of iOBit Driver Booster to update drivers on occasion (excluding the GPU driver which I do through the Nvidia/AMD Control Panel apps) https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10 Windows Update is just too inconsistent on what versions it pushes out for some drivers IMO kiddingguy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Brandon H said: I've just recently disabled driver updates from WU through the registry personally and rely on the free version of iOBit Driver Booster to update drivers on occasion (excluding the GPU driver which I do through the Nvidia/AMD Control Panel apps) https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10 Windows Update is just too inconsistent on what versions it pushes out for some drivers IMO Thx. That helped. But... is there a way to turn off the notification *Some settings are managed by your organization ?? (Yes, I know I altered these settings; don't keep reminding on it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 3, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, kiddingguy said: Thx. That helped. But... is there a way to turn off the notification *Some settings are managed by your organization ?? (Yes, I know I altered these settings; don't keep reminding on it ) that will show if you did the change by Group Policy Object (GPO) but not if you do the registry method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Brandon H said: that will show if you did the change by Group Policy Object (GPO) but not if you do the registry method. Thx. Registry method has been implemented Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted December 3, 2020 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2020 I disabled Windows Update driver management because it kept on installing Nvidia 432.00 drivers over much newer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 3, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Steven P. said: I disabled Windows Update driver management because it kept on installing Nvidia 432.00 drivers over much newer ones. similar thing for me except with AMD and it kept breaking the AMD control panel app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 So why is the Windows Update driver management so scr**ed up?? It keeps buggin' users with older drivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted December 3, 2020 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: So why is the Windows Update driver management so scr**ed up?? It keeps buggin' users with older drivers... Yes because in some cases the WHQL driver overrides the (newer) non WHQL driver and as an added bonus, even if there is a newer WHQL driver but it hasn't been released via Windows Update, that will get overwritten too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 4, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, kiddingguy said: So why is the Windows Update driver management so scr**ed up?? It keeps buggin' users with older drivers... it's mostly the fault of the companies that write the drivers. they don't submit their drivers for WHQL approval soon enough or for every driver version; and sometimes they don't set the version number or date correctly on their WHQL drivers so the wrong one installs over whatever you have. Microsoft has been trying to improve the system but it relies heavily on what is submitted to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted December 4, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2020 Windows has had and shown optimal updates for years, I don't see how this is a issue for some? I just ignore them, they'll go away, or if not and something is wrong with my system in the future then I can check the list and see if something there can fix it. Also, and not to brag, but I've never ran into these weird driver problems with WU trying to install something over something newer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted December 4, 2020 Administrators Share Posted December 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, George P said: Windows has had and shown optimal updates for years, I don't see how this is a issue for some? I just ignore them, they'll go away, or if not and something is wrong with my system in the future then I can check the list and see if something there can fix it. Also, and not to brag, but I've never ran into these weird driver problems with WU trying to install something over something newer. Good for you but this does not mean that others haven't had those issues, in fact your comment comes over as dismissive it is actually widely known about the Nvidia driver if you look on their community support forums. You also say "you ignore them" so it's obvious why you don't get issues then. If you let Windows manage third party software and drivers the older Nvidia driver can install over a newer one, that isn't even optional anymore, I and many others have this exact problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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