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Now that we're getting Windows 11 and things are starting to change up more than the past few years with Windows 10, I un-pinned the old Windows 10 thread and started this one.


With the leaked build and the event coming on the 24th things are getting interesting once more.  

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Some more info on Windows 11 from early benchmarks of the leaked build.



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Looks like screenshots from a newer build have hit twitter.










Dark mode looking good.

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It's looking really slick, I kinda liked it before but I really like this.


I just hope they manage to release with consistency for once otherwise legacy UI elements will be there for the duration of Windows 11.

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Just now, cacoe said:

It's looking really slick, I kinda liked it before but I really like this.


I just hope they manage to release with consistency for once otherwise legacy UI elements will be there for the duration of Windows 11.

I don't expect them to get to everything by the rumored October release date, but if the goal is to do the whole UI, maybe more of those hidden 9x era bits can get removed next year.   Windows 11 is going back to a single release per year so they've got the time to do quite a bit, if they want that is.

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Indeed, does look good. I am pretty impressed so far running the leaked build. I just hope and pray that they bring taskbar on multi monitors back! It is a nightmare snapping my head back and forth from screen 2 to 1, just to click on the app icon i am after 😁 also, makes me dizzy after a while!! 😆

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I would say, keep an eye out for today 


These two people are not clickbait fake journalists, of which there are too many of these days...

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It'll be interesting to see the first official version they send out.  I've heard a few times that not everything is going to be in there to start.   

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First official dev build is out.   Things are going to get interesting now.




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Got it running last night on this HP Envy Ultrabook .. it just so happen to have an 8th gen Intel. It's Sad,  I probably have 15+ computers computers and this one (which a customer recently gave me) and an Ultrabook in my theater are the only 2 that will support Windows 11.


The one in my theater is a water damaged Ultrabook another customer gave me. After scrubbing the motherboard with isotropic alcohol I got it working accept for the audio, which is great because the HDMI audio output still works which makes it the perfect theater PC to hook to a receiver / projector. 



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Well, TPM stuff aside, they might add some 7th gen intel chips into the supported list.  But that still leaves me and anyone else with a 6th gen or older out.  At this point I don't care enough to be mad.  It's a shame I won't be able to upgrade to 11 on this gaming pc, or my other 3 systems actually.   I'll just ride out windows 10 till I've got a new system ready, probably sometime next year when we're all talking about Windows 11.1 or whatever new version naming they're going with.

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My computer don't meet the requirements, but it put me on W11Pro anyway? Is this actually the real deal or will i have to get rid of it when it's a official build. This is not the leaked ISO, my computer restarted to this last night.




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46 minutes ago, drjekel_mrhyde said:

My computer don't meet the requirements, but it put me on W11Pro anyway? Is this actually the real deal or will i have to get rid of it when it's a official build. This is not the leaked ISO, my computer restarted to this last night.




Insider builds are more relaxed on requirements.


I got put on Enterprise, LOL. I wasn't on Enterprise before.

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I think they relaxed the rules yesterday, windows update kicked me off at 8% last week once the popup check happened. yesterday it installed on its own. its a weird situation because as the windows core RTM'd last month everything that changes now is just UI level stuff, it really shows that nothing on the os level actually required any of the harsher restrictions.


So if we get kicked off once the UI goes RTM then its 100% just some guys decision and not based on os limitations.

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24 minutes ago, Louisifer said:

I think they relaxed the rules yesterday, windows update kicked me off at 8% last week once the popup check happened. yesterday it installed on its own. its a weird situation because as the windows core RTM'd last month everything that changes now is just UI level stuff, it really shows that nothing on the os level actually required any of the harsher restrictions.


So if we get kicked off once the UI goes RTM then its 100% just some guys decision and not based on os limitations.

What did the popup check say last week?

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It just opened a mini health checker program that listed No TPM and Secure Boot for me and then it reports back to windows update to cancel the download

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6 minutes ago, Louisifer said:

It just opened a mini health checker program that listed No TPM and Secure Boot for me and then it reports back to windows update to cancel the download

I wonder, was that the same checker app that they said they took down and will release a new version of down the road?



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It was this. this is all it does, pops up blank with a loading icon and then populates with what you failed with and when you click close it runs a clean up script or a successful script if you pass so windows update knows the outcome.d2yddompdpqxzurm_1624000513.jpeg.241ec923041ab11691d4b670997c2515.jpeg

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Think the official stance is that  you can try it via insider preview even if you don't meet the requirements but the final is not going to install for you.

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Well I took the plunge and switched my Surface Pro X to the insiders testing on the dev channel and upgraded the OS. I've been tempted to switch it since the x64 emulation came out last November, but with the supposed improvements to the UI for touch, as well as the potential ability to run android apps coming I figured why not. So far it seems to run just fine, which I would hope for a Microsoft device (you never know). I will say it sure is a nice change for WoA compared to the unfortunate fate of the Surface RT/2 that never officially got a Windows 10 upgrade (there is a leaked ARM32 insider build of Windows 10 that will install on them).


I actually don't have any 64-bit productivity apps I need to use on it, so I tried a few 64-bit games instead. I found one issue that the x64 emulation at the moment can't get around, and that is if the app itself checks the architecture when it loads. For example, games that use Epic Games Unreal engine start to run and then throw an "unsupported architecture" message like this one:



I don't don't know if there is anything Microsoft can do about that, so it might be up to the developer. Honestly I'm not sure why Epic decided to put this check in, as doing some searching it seems it's come out since the x64 emulation arrived. I've seen posts about this from people using Windows on ARM devices like the Pro X, as well as Mac users with a device using Apple's new M1 processor running Windows in a virtual machine via Parallels. Apparently Apex Legends used to run, and then broke. I may file a support ticket with Epic asking for a way to ignore or bypass this check. Hopefully there won't be many apps like this.

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anyone else have square window borders after the upgrade? every system I did they are square.... the leaked build they where round


and now I also lost the new explorer toolbar, it strangely went back to the old ribbon

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FYI you can access Task Manager by right clicking the start button or crtl+shift+esc as it is no longer in the corner right click menu.

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hopefully thats something they either add back to the taskbar or we can add it via registry edit along with adding refresh back to the new desktop right click

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3 hours ago, neufuse said:

anyone else have square window borders after the upgrade? every system I did they are square.... the leaked build they where round


and now I also lost the new explorer toolbar, it strangely went back to the old ribbon

The loss of round borders sounds like bad video drivers.

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      Saving best of the last, Windows 11 will also feature Android apps, courtesy of the Amazon app store. At the Windows 11 launch, Microsoft announced that it will be partnering with Amazon to bring Android apps to Windows 11. While, Microsoft has noted that Android apps will not be available at Windows 11 launch, the company says it is working on bringing support in the near future.

      File Explorer
      File Explorer is also getting some of that Windows 11 goodness as the Redmond giant brings it in line with the new visual update. The new design ditches the top ribbon in favour of quick action buttons. This is another attempt from Microsoft to help those on touch-based devices as it is easy to interact with big buttons, compared to small items the company had before on the top ribbon. The company, however, has added a new drop-down option at the top to accommodate all the ribbon options.

      File Explorer has also received a new right-click context menu which again matches the overall Windows 11 design. Here too, Microsoft has added quick action buttons to the top that give users easy access to cut, copy, and paste options. We have a dedicated article covering the finer details about the File Manager on Windows 11.

      Windows 11 will see a return of the widgets, albeit different from the ones we were used to seeing in Windows 7. Microsoft has added a new Widgets button on the taskbar which opens a pop-up window to the side giving users easy access to weather, traffic, stock market updates, sports, news headlines and more. Microsoft will be collating data based on user preferences and it will be pulled from MSN. The feature is an extension to the News and Interest option that Microsoft added to Windows 10 earlier this year. We have covered Windows 11 Widgets extensively before and you can check out our article on the topic for more information on Widgets and how they will work.

      Revamped Native apps
      Microsoft is also upgrading the native apps experience with Windows 11. The company has released updates for several native apps like the snipping tool, calculator, photos app and more. All the updates bring these apps in line with the Windows 11 with Microsoft’s design language, rounded corners, and support for dark mode. Microsoft is expected to upgrade all the remaining native apps in the future, providing a unified and clean experience to end users.

      Windows Settings and Personalization
      With Windows 11, settings and personalization is getting a massive bump. Microsoft has redesigned the settings app that now features headings on the left corner with sub-headings in the middle that expand to show the various settings and options. The new app also includes breadcrumbs so you can quickly jump between pages.

      The new UI includes updated options for different features and settings. Microsoft has also included a new battery page that gives more information and can be useful for laptop users. You can read more about power options and battery settings on Windows 11 in our Closer Look article. The company has also improved the way it shows related settings and has moved them at the bottom to accommodate more information. Windows 11 will also bring the following new shortcuts:

      Windows + A- Open quick settings Windows + N- Open notifications Windows + Z- Open snap layouts Windows + H- Open voice typing Shift + F10- Open the old right-click menu Moving on to personalization, Microsoft has added a couple of new personalization options to Windows 11. These include improved dark mode, new system themes, themes for on-screen touch keyboard and more.

      One of the major improvements is made to the new on-screen touch keyboard which now features a variety of themes, keyboard size and more. You can navigate to Settings > Personalization > Touch Keyboard to access the customization options.

      Microsoft Teams 2.0
      Microsoft is trying to take on both FaceTime and Zoom with Microsoft Teams as the company has added a Teams button on the taskbar. Microsoft says it wants people to use Microsoft Teams to communicate with both their colleagues and their families.

      While, the new Teams app is in early stages, it offers a variety of features such as inviting people to the chat, audio and video calls, groups and much more. Microsoft is expected to continue updating Teams long after Windows 11 has been released to the public so we may see new features and changes in the future. For now, you can check out our dedicated article covering Microsoft Teams in depth.

      General changes and improvements
      Apart from improvements to the specific features, Microsoft has also introduced general system-wide improvements to enhance the user experience. Rounded corners is one way Microsoft has improved the Windows 11 look and feel. The company has also introduced new animations that make the system feel snappier and gives a smooth experience to the user.

      Microsoft has made changes to the Action center which is now split into two parts - Quick settings and notification area. The notification area will show the latest notifications along with calendar while Quick settings will give users easy access to setting such as WiFi, Bluetooth, Brightness and more. You can check out our dedicated article for a deeper insight into the topic.

      The Windows Startup sound is also making a comeback on Windows 11. The startup sound is something that many veteran Windows users can relate to, and Microsoft has finally decided to include a brand new sound that is softer and has a new soothing melody.

      Lastly, Microsoft has also completely overhauled the setup UI. While the Windows installation UI remains the same as it has been since Windows 7, the company has completely changed the setup UI. The Windows 11 setup includes the same steps as Windows 10, but with nice round corners on an off-white background that will look familiar to anyone who has used macOS.

      Furthermore, Microsoft has improved the lock screen that looks a lot better with the new font and slight UI improvements. The most noticeable improvement here is the center alignment of the date and time.

      Features getting axed on Windows 11
      Unfortunately, Windows 11 is also taking away some of the features that are currently available in Windows 10. Below is the list of features that Microsoft is killing with the Windows 11 launch:

      Who can upgrade to Windows 11?
      While Microsoft has made Windows available to almost everyone who owns a PC, this time the company is narrowing the path so a lot of users will miss out on the update, at least via the "supported" upgrade path. For starters, Windows 11 will be a 64-bit only operating system so if your hardware does not support 64-bit operating system then you are out of luck.

      Secondly, the company has provided a comprehensive list of hardware requirements that one needs to meet in order to qualify for a Windows 11 update.

      Will Windows 11 be a free upgrade?
      Now on to the biggest question, will Windows 11 be available for free. In short, the update will be free for the existing Windows users. So, Windows 10 users who meet the minimum system requirements can upgrade to Windows 11 for free once the update is available. You can refer to the system requirements section in the beginning of the article to ensure your system meets the minimum requirements to upgrade to Windows 11.

      Those who are using old versions of Windows but meet the minimum requirements can upgrade to Windows 11 but may have to do a clean install as there no direct upgrade path available.

      How to upgrade to Windows 11?
      Microsoft will be releasing Windows 11 on October 5, post which Windows 10 users will start seeing the update. As with all updates, Microsoft will be seeding the update to a small subset of users before the broader public roll out.

      Microsoft has already seeded the RTM build to Windows Insiders in the Release Preview channel. So, if you are eager to upgrade to Windows 11, you can head to Settings > Update and Security > Windows Insider Program and enroll in the Release Preview Ring.

      For the rest, Windows 11 will start seeding on October 5. You can head to Settings > Update and Security > Windows Update and click on Check for Updates to download and install the Windows 11 update.

      Microsoft’s Windows 11 operating system is more than just a minor update as it introduces a brand-new modern UI that looks and feels much better when compared to Windows 10. Microsoft has taken a new route with Windows 11, giving users a fresh UI for both the operating system and the native Windows apps. Apart from the new UI, improvements made to Windows 11 will ensure that users get the best performance and experience.

      With Windows 11 coming soon, do you plan to upgrade your system to the latest offering from Microsoft? Let us know your thoughts by voting in the poll below and sounding off in the comments section.

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