session Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 My friend is installing panther and wondering whether he should use unix or extended for the disk format. any suggestions on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 You should use HFS+ The Unix file system does not support metadata which can cause some things to break. IIRC the UFS is also case sensitive (dog.txt != Dog.txt). HFS+ is case preserving but case insensitive (dog.txt = Dog.txt), and supports meta data which includes things like content/creator codes and custom icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFNE Freak Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 I'd say extended. Isn't that journalled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 so im not the one installing but i would like to know more about this. what are the choices you have when installing? and what are the differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Journalling can be added to any file system - but to answer your question in a more direct way: OS X (since 10.2.?) has supported Journalling file systems. It's been a while since I installed panther but I believe their are only two choices: HFS+ (journalized) UFS The differences are mentioned above but I'll try to be a little more clear: ufs - Perserves the letter 'casing': searching for a file called "dog.txt" would not return "Dog.txt" - Does not support forks (data forks and resource forks) which means some files will not be stored correctly - typically ones from OS 9. Resource forks also contain 'extra' information like content creator codes which some applications require. - Is journaled which can restore the disk to a "known good" state in the event of power loss. - Some anecdotes indicate that this system has better performance than HFS+ - You cannot use classic applications stored on UFS partitions: they don't run. - Other *NIX systems read/write UFS flawlessly: important if you're dual booting. HFS+ - Comes in journaled and normal flavors. The default is to have journaling enabled, but you can turn it off via Disk Utility - it can speed up disk-writting performance 3-10% - Supports multiple forks - case preserving, but case insensitive (a seach for "Dog.txt" will find "DOG.txt" "dog.tXt" etc) - Classic Applications can run from HFS+ drives Also, if you read the installation notes (in that big old "read me" window when you install panther) apple says something to the extent of: "Only use UFS partitions if you have a good reason to run them. They are suitable as an 'extra' support partition for documents and applications, but UFS is not recommended as the primary partition." There are people who use UFS without any problems - the choice is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 thanks for the information :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 what do HFS+ and UFS stand for though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelusive978 Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 :ninja: HFS+ = Hierarchical File System + / UFS = Unix File System :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 oh? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 i should put... oh!! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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