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Must say I wasn't impressed with test 1 AT ALL, aside from how pretty it looked (it was really pretty). That was the most unstable distro I've ever installed. To make matters worse it messed up my MBR so I couldn't even format it. I had to run the Seagate tools to fix the mbr...boy was I ****ed.

I'll stick with Slack and Gentoo (and just play with others), the newb friendly distros (except Jamd) always get on my nerves one way or another. I loved the older versions of Red Hat, but I think 7.3 was the last build I liked...

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I loved the older versions of Red Hat, but I think 7.3 was the last build I liked...

Man...Red Hat 7.1 was so great I bought it boxed. Things just seem "different" today, eh?

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Man...Red Hat 7.1 was so great I bought it boxed. Things just seem "different" today, eh?

ya, I bought 1.0, 3.0, 5.0 and 7.3

The ones after that I gave a chance (every release) but quite frantly, they make me sick. I'm all for user0friendliness, but they impose limitations and add non-standard programs that make others not work should you alter files...

It's really quite a pain for me to run RH distros (including Fedora Core, which I also tried). I must admit I was VERY impressed with Jamd, but it's not in production anymore. I don't know how well Ares is going to go, but I will give it a shot (since that's what I do because I am always looking for distros to recommend).

Honestly though, I think Slackware's gotta be one of the easiest distros to install, and definitely easy to tweak. It has nothing getting in your way from changing settings on your own. The installer can be as simple or advanced as you want (from full install, prompt, select packages, to ubber advanced).

I do miss the old Red Hat though...and the old Caldera Openlinux...that was far ahead of it's time.

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Haven't upped myself to Fedora Core 2 test x at all, though I'm running GNOME 2.5, KDE 3.2 and a 2.6.1 kernel on Fedora Core 1, so I'm not sure where else I'm short of FC2 besides the SELinux components. I figured I'd just want until the official release and then use yum to upgrade. I can say though, that I'm quite pleased with the way FC has performed for me (and I'm a Slacker/HP-UXer by nature!).

@MR_Candyman: RH7.3 was indeed a good release, as was RH4.2 (gotta disagree on the .0 releases though - it was the unwritten law to never run a RH x.0 release unless you were testing and/or crazy). 7.3 was probably the last of the RedHat Linux distros I liked - didn't much care for the issues I had with 8 and 9 was buggier than the Zerg homeworld. However, Fedora Core has shocked me - updating using yum and using the Fedora.us and Livna repositories - it's a pretty decent distro. I can honestly say I haven't had any serious issues yet that weren't hardware related (dying laptop - after 5 years of heavy use) - it's been almost as stable and quick as Slack9.1 (blasphemous, I know). I still prefer to digest Slack, but FC puts RH back in a positive light for me. It's enough that my fiancee is actually starting to find a slight hint of liking in Linux - after harvesting a hatred for Linux from a poorly taught computer course.

@Mr. Static Void: Different indeed. ;)

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My experience with Fedora Core 2 test 1 (aka FC 1.90) has been aweful. When I first installed it, I let it put the boot loader in my MBR which is on the drive that I have Windows 2003 installed on. It corrupted the MBR and I tried every tool possible to fix it but couldn't, so i eventually had to install windows on another drive, recover a few files (just program configs because I keep my data files on a seperate drive), and then reinstall it and move everything back. After that horrendous experience, I chose to physically disconnect my windows drives whenever I want to run linux.

Next up, there was a bit of problems getting my nforce2 ethernet controller working. I had to manually add it although that was easy. After rebooting, the hostname changed to what I believe is the MAC address for my NIC and it caused an annoying error about not being able to resolve the hostname to pop up after every reboot and so I had to add the name to my /etc/hosts file.

It detected my nforce2 sound, but it was still silent. I eventually found out that ALSA mutes all the sound devices and that you have to use the mixer to raise them. that worked perfectly, but it's pretty stupid for the FC2 installer to ask you if you heard a sound when the sound is muted... They need to have the installer automatically raise the volume.

up2date seems to hang if you connect to a slow mirror and so you're forced to kill the process. Doing so seems to have caused it think it has already installed some packages which it hasn't. It also seems to have caused a very important library to get deleted and I haven't felt like going through the recovery process yet...

And as I said in another post, I can't get the damn nvidia drivers to work for the life of me. They seem to cause sendmail to freeze, so be sure to keep sendmail from loading if you get the same problem. If anybody has gotten them to work in FC 1.90, please let me know.

As for actual usage, it seems VERY unstable right from a fresh install. There's times when programs won't load or gnome is not responsive and you have to reboot.

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yep...that pretty much sums up my experiences with FC1 aswell pHuzion.

Don't worry, there's much better distros...

and about the network card...you're right...mine didn't install the driver at all in even slack...I don't really care cuz I'm on wireless, but still it's not cool...though thankfully nvidia has a pretty good set of drivers for it and I do have 2 nic cards I can install that run PERFECTLY in linux

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i sort of screwed up my linux install... with mandrake 9.1 so.. im thinking of installing fedora core 1.. or fedora core 2 test1..

I like FC1. From the posts here, though, you might want to wait for the non-test version of FC2...

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im currently running fedora core 2 test 1 with all rawhide updates. there are a bunch of problems with fc2 test 1 but keep in mind thats what the beta phase is for. i feel that from what ive seen in rawhide that test 2 is going to be leaps and bounds better than test 1 was. For starters selinux has a lot of problems fixed, alsa problems are fixed, it will have gnome 2.6 beta 1 (2.5.90) and they have been updating the utilities. also it is a lot faster than fc1 is due to the 2.6 kernel. my only gripe is that i feel the fedora team should just toss out system-config-packages and up2date and just use synaptic with apt. It works great, has a stable and fast interface and does everthing I personally want and need.

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my only gripe is that i feel the fedora team should just toss out system-config-packages and up2date and just use synaptic with apt.

or, seeing as how Fedora has adpopted yum, which is decent in it's own right - they could convince the maintainers to enhance synaptic to enable it's use with yum. But I agree with just dropping up2date and s-c-p completely, as I don't see a point in having it anymore. rhnd can already use yum repositories, so why confuse with 2 methods of updating?

I think the general thought is - test releases are exactly that - tests. Don't expect it to run well, expect bugs and problems (big and small) - thus don't install it on a "production" system (use VMware, another system or another hard drive (if on a laptop for example)). If you want something stable, use an actual release.

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where do i get shots?

You can get the ISO files from...

Fedora Core 2 test 1 [FC2t1]

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedo.../1.90/i386/iso/

(big gap)

Fedora Core 1 (Yarrow) [FC1]

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedo...ore/1/i386/iso/

FC1 is stable, well at least it's a lot more stable than FC2t1 but that's because it's a test version. I can see the way the versions have been numbered could confuse some peeps... so for anyone who tried Fedora and found it really unstable I suggest you get hold of FC1 because you probably had FC2t1 in the first instance (Y)

As MarkJensen has already pointed, Test 2 of FC2 will be out in March --> http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ ... along with Test 3, and then finally a release (stable, non-test) version will be out in April.

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so for anyone who tried Fedora and found it really unstable I suggest you get hold of FC1 because you probably had FC2t1 in the first instance

nope...was before fedora core 2 test 1 was even in the works

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is the speed difference of kernel 2.6 worth the trouble of upgrading from fc1...?

Well, if you can put up with, just in my experience - others may find more/less errors, the odd Nautilus crash and potentially non-working TCP/IP in some cases then only just.

Wait for the release (non-test) version of Fedora Core 2 in April... should be rock solid by then (fingers crossed).

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might install fc 2 ... then decide later whether to remove it... im not using it as my primary os

is there a triple boot where i can load fc1 ,fc2 and windows...??

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I've been using Fedora Core 1 for a few weeks now and I've been very impressed.

As for the posts about the Nforce2 problems, I too, have an nforce2 mobo on my linux machine. The problems with the ethernet adapter are evident in all linux distros, you can download the drivers from Nvidia's website. I did the option of compiling an rpm from source, and it was easy. The only thing is that the --rebuild option in rpm is not in Fedora, so you have to do buildrpm or rebuildrpm or some command like that. Either way, the command you need to use is in the FAQ for the nforce2 driver install.

I did have some problems with the hostname, like you mentioned, but eventually got it worked out.

I have not installed nvidia display drivers on my nforce machine yet, but I did successfully install them on another machine. I forget the actual commands, but you have to change the runlevel to 3 (no x windows) and before you can build everything you need to do an export cc=gcc32 or something to that effect.

Other than that, I have not noticed any major problems with Fedora.

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But I agree with just dropping up2date and s-c-p completely, as I don't see a point in having it anymore. rhnd can already use yum.

While I agree that up2date is less than great (always freezes with me so I just use the tray applet then go into synaptic to up-date), I'm confused why you think they should drop the s-c-p's. I can't see a GUI replacements...

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