first time trying out Knoppix and Linux


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ok so my other computer is really messed and Windows has some missing files (nearly all the .exes that would usually run in the background in windows like explorer.exe logonui.exe and so on (they got deleted by a antivirus removal tool )

anyways I want to recover alot of data that is on that hdd and I heard good things about Knoppix so I am trying it out today for teh first time

what do I need to get started and everything

all I have is 1 blank CD

I need help fast as I have my dad's files on that computer and he needs to print them otu bad

plese Neowin Help!!1

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If you have Windows XP you need to know how to mount the NTFS drive and read it (a bit risky as linux doesn't like NTFS) and you will need somwhere to put the data, so you might have to do some repartitioning from knoppix.

You will also need knoppix itself of course: http://www.knoppix.net/get.php

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just take the hdd out of the messed up computer and put it in the running comp and get your files..

then put it back in the other comp and reload windows.. simple.. all knoppix will do is let you look at the files.

now if you had a bootable Win PE disk you could burn files to a burner right from the bootable os cd... very cool..

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okay...

see what I want to do is this...

I have a HP computer so it comes with this little thing called HP System Recovery it brings back the PC to its original state and keeps the Program Fiels folder and My Documents folder intact so I want to move everything to these 2 folders using Knoppix and then use the System Recovery and then start using Windows XP again

so how do I parition the drive when Windows doesn't load

how do I mount the drive ?

please help me

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just take the hdd out of the messed up computer and put it in the running comp and get your files..

then put it back in the other comp and reload windows.. simple.. all knoppix will do is let you look at the files.

oo I never knew all Knoppix could do is let me view the files ... damn

and I guess I could do that but I have never opened up a computer and realyl removed teh hdds and all

so I am kinda nervous

and would it be safe to put the explorer.exe and logonui.exe and so on from this computer to the other? thsi is a COMPAQ comp

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Knoppix will let you read your NTFS drive. It isn't risky, as one poster said.

Knoppix will let you move these files to another local drive (like a Windows FAT drive, for example)

Knoppix will let you burn these files to a CD-R, to be read by any other OS.

Knoppix will let you move these files over a network (like a home network) to another PC.

Knoppix is a good recovery CD.

If you have an extra drive (or a different PC) you can use the other drive's OS, or install Windows on the other drive, and just read your non-booting one.

Whatever way is easier for you.

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Here's a thing you can do. Open up the command line and type the following:

su
mkdir /mnt/windows
mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows

Then you should do the following:

1) Open up k3b, start data cd.

2) Click the root icon on the file thing on the left hand side. It's underneath home (not in the home category) and click on mnt and then windows

3) Now you get the point, create a cd and then test it out.

There are applications like qtparted on knoppix which can resize an ntfs drive supposedly. I've never tried that, but after you back up the files to cd, you can try that out.

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hey guys thanks for your help burning knoppix now hopefuloly thigns will work out

I am planning to reinstall windows on the other comp

Goalie_CA do u mean command line in Knoppix?

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[now if you had a bootable Win PE disk you could burn files to a burner right from the bootable os cd... very cool..]

So will a bootable liunx CD, but you have to have 2 CD drives...

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or get these software Recover4all or easy recovery pro or hddreg (google them) . install them on other comp.. attach ur disk .. and recover them .. this are the least non-professional and easy way to do things ...

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when you see the knoppix boot screen show up type

knoppix dma noscsi nopcmcia

and it will eventually boot to a windows-like desktop. Click the little terminal application in the quick launch bar.

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I booted Knoppix on that computer and I can see the files and everything byut I cant move them and thats the only reason I considered downloading knoppix in the first place

I can burn them on a CD but I dont have any blank CDs .. I have lots of .ISOs that I want to burn on CDs later but can Knoppix do this?

I also can't connect to the internet on that comp with knoppix can someone help?

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You can move these files to another drive, or you can transfer them to a PC using a 'shared folder' (yes, even a Windows PC).

You should be able to connect to the internet with Knoppix, as well. Perhaps your card isn't set up right.... If you want help in troubleshooting it, I am sure that people will help you (and I will, to the best of my ability), but you are probably better of transferring to another drive (or CD-R, but you said you don't have one)

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what type of printer do you have. You might be able to print them from knoppix. But the easiest method would be to move them to another harddrive/cdr. setting up printing in linux is damn hard....well at least for me.

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IIRC the HP recover partition is a FAT partition and it has about 500 MB of free space.

you could copy any important files from the NTFS partition to the recovery partition and it would be fine. (i've actually done that before...so unless HP has changed the way they do things...;) )

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or just repartition the recovery partitioin to fat32 again. ;)

then you will be certain you can copy files there.

You can check the partitions in knoppix by using fdisk. call fdisk in the terminal or console them type in p at its prompt and press enter. you should see the partitions. I think knoppix has fdisk. I will check.

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Knoppix will let you read your NTFS drive. It isn't risky, as one poster said.

I agree Linux (including Knoppix) can read NTFS volumes safely enough. It's just the optional writing to NTFS that is risky.

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IIRC the HP recover partition is a FAT partition and it has about 500 MB of free space.

you could copy any important files from the NTFS partition to the recovery partition and it would be fine. (i've actually done that before...so unless HP has changed the way they do things...;) )

how exactly could do that ? can u please let me know?

and can someone guide me to a tutorial or tell me step by step how to get online when I am using Knoppix?

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and another problem.. I only have CD ROM Device on my other comp so Icant really use a CD to store my data (or am I mistaken if so please let me know)

so if I am not mistaken how can I transfer my data?

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and another problem.. I only have CD ROM Device on my other comp so Icant really use a CD to store my data (or am I mistaken if so please let me know)

so if I am not mistaken how can I transfer my data?

Network :yes:

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how exactly could do that ? can u please let me know?

and can someone guide me to a tutorial or tell me step by step how to get online when I am using Knoppix?

typically on Knoppix, it will show your mounted partitions on the desktop as aliases (hopefully this will be the case in your case :) )

the first partition on the first drive will be called hda1 (this is probably your recovery partition. do not delete any files from it, but you can make a new folder inside called "backup" and copy your important files there temporarily.)

your system partition will more than likely be hda2. this partition will not be writable because writing to NTFS partitions from linux is dangerous and is not recommended.

go ahead and open up your backup folder on hda1, and the root of hda2...and then copy the files that you need (don't copy too many, the recovery partition doesn't have much free space :) ).

Konquerer is much like windows explorer, so i don't think you'll have any problem navigating. and if you need anything else, just reply again.

as for internet from within knoppix, cable is easy. it will probably work without any configuration. DSL (with PPPoE) and dialup would require some additional configuration (browse through the menues, i'm sure there are tools to help you.)

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