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In response to THIS thread (which was inexplicably closed???)....

I have to disagree with the posters.

If someone breaks a rule the site has every right to delete the thread without taking the time to notify the poster. It's my experience that more often than not the poster is well aware a rule is being violated. Personally I prefer to lock a thread with a last post explaining why, but there are times the mods or I (at our site) will delete a thread because of foul language or some truly outrageous behavior. Sometimes we PM, sometimes we don't. But when we do it's not out of courtesy - it's generally a warning not to do it again.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as the rules are posted the onus is on the member, not the site. And let's be honest - we're all smart enough to know when we are doing something wrong - we don't really need to be told. I HATE hearing: "oh, I didn't know I couldn't curse" or "I didn't know I couldn't post warez". PLEASE!!!!. We understand where we are and the nature of the forum on which we're posting - we know what goes and what doesn't.

Now having said that, I don't believe in a "heavy hand" either. But in the end there is nothing wrong with protecting the integrity of the site.

Just my opinion :)

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I agree with the guy :D anyway we require mods to PM members when their Topic is removed from the forum, sometimes it doesn't happen but when that happens feel free to PM me or Redmak & Voodoo and we'll get our admin sticks out :p

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... and we'll get our admin sticks out :p

please help us, they beat us late at night, we're sorry, dont complain

oh no! they heard me!

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doesn't a closed thread mean discussion over? :blink:

It was my opinion the thread should not have been closed - beside that, I was agreeing "with the house" - so I took it upon myself to start another thered. Hope that's okay with you.

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i stated in that thread that i was closing it.

besides, calling mods ###### isnt very nice.

especially since the mod that moved that was one of the female mods here.

you should feel very bad for yourself :laugh:

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Let me tell you, if someone called one of our staff - hell, if somoeone called one of our members an AH on our site, we'd do more than lock the thread - that individual would be gone. It's uncalled for and unacceptable behavior.

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Let me tell you, if someone called one of our staff - hell, if somoeone called one of our members an AH on our site, we'd do more than lock the thread - that individual would be gone. It's uncalled for and unacceptable behavior.

yes, i understand... but we are grownups.

someone calling me an ###### doesnt result in a ban imo.

ask the chick who moved it what she thinks.

i have one, but i am NOT one.

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Didn't mean to sound as though I was criticizing either your or the site Toxikk, just saying how I feel about individuals who act that way. :no:

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Didn't mean to sound as though I was criticizing either your or the site Toxikk, just saying how I feel about individuals who act that way. :no:

Allan,

Don't take what Tox meant wrong, he is one of the more blunt Moderators around here. ;) (You know it Tox. ;))

I do not feel he thought you were criticizing our staff in any way, just making the point that here at Neowin we try to use banning as an absolute last resort when all other means of handling a situation have failed. Words and Insults are a dime a dozen around here, even towards our Staff, and that being said very rarely do they cause any mental hardships on us given their commonality. As in our every day life we just deal with the insult in the best way we know how, normally just shrugging it off.

Incase you were wondering, this entire huge issue apparently was started by me when I moved that person's original post and he decided to react since he felt he wasn't PMed. That isn't true given that the PM was sent less than 2 minutes later (Was at work and had to answer a phone call inbetween the Move and PM) yet he still felt the need to make a scene and throw around the insults. Again, given that as a Mod here at Neowin I'm no stranger to being called that (and other things), I shrugged it off, RE-sent the PM and went onto the next thread since Tox had already closed that one. No skin off my nose.

I appreciate your (and other members of the community) support in our day to day Moderation tasks as it does indeed make the job much more easy! I only can hope that one day people who decide to rant and rave about a Moderator and his/her choice to Moderate their thread will understand we only take such action to better our community.

Again, thanks for your support,

Cara

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Cara,

Thanks for the explanation. You clearly have a great deal of class - all the more reason that it's abhorrent for somoeone to be as rude to you as the individual in question was. While you may not find it a big deal, I for one do.

Look, you guys here have a lot more activity and members than other such forums - certainly than we do. So while one reaction to out of control members might be to just laugh it off, my experience is that those individuals will frequently continue "testing" to see how far they can go. And of course others of the same ilk will see what's going on. I applaud your restraint and maturity. Still, I wouldn't (and don't) put up with it. ;)

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They frequently do test to see how far they can go and when they reach the line of what is tollerable, they are met with several Mods with arms wide open. ;) In general we have found the many users decide to 'cool their jets' after getting a polite warning from a Mod or even something more formal so we don't need to take it much further than that, however, the ones who required do receive proper attention. :)

I do appreciate the compliments and as I say to everyone, if there is ever anything that I can do to make your experience better here at Neowin, please let me know! :)

Cara

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Didn't mean to sound as though I was criticizing either your or the site Toxikk, just saying how I feel about individuals who act that way. :no:

ooh i know dude. it's all good. :cool:

you think i get ****ed off that easy? i totally understand where youre coming from.

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