how to burn Knoppix?


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Since my stupid Cd R drive would no longer write any more CDRW, therefore i haveto make sure that i don;t waster this CD R i have.

Do i simply just write it as a Normal CD with the ISO or do i have to choose Boot CD in nero?

( I think it is normal CD coz boot is a window boot thing.......... )

Just to make sure........ haven't got much CD R left..............

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In Nero, go to the file menu (in 5.5 or below) or the recorder menu (in 6 or above) and select burn image. Browse to the location of the .iso file and select it. Hit burn. That's it.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hope I'm allowed to ask a continuation type question to this thread as it is exactly what I searched for. The Knoppix file I downloaded is a zip file. 699MB's. I didn't get any of the cheksums(?) I see here that you say "just burn the ISO file." My question is:

Is that burning that 1 zip file to cd as a whole, or do I unzip it and burn those files/folders to it? Or, thirdly, do I open the folders within that zip also and just burn the files.

One final question. Will the current version of Knoppix run on a Cyrix 486DX? It's a real old system with nothing on it so I won't ruin anything while learning. I know it's a live evaluation, but believe me, i could find a way to ruin something!

Sorry for REALLY sounding like the nOOb, but that's exactly what I am as far Linux. I really would like to try and learn this OS though.

Thanks for any help.

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You need to burn it as an image! Do not burn it as an .iso file on a disk. Do not open the .iso as separate files.

Also, BEFORE you burn, do an md5sum!!!! Make sure your image downloaded correctly! Look where you download it from, I guarantee that a reputable download source will have the md5sums there. :yes:

And, running it on a 486??? :o Knoppix uses KDE (one of the two largest Desktop Environments commpnly available for Linux). It sucks up RAM and CPU cycles. Do *NOT* use any LiveCD on that PC! You will want to *real* install a distro, and choose a lighter Window Manager, such as fluxbox or one of many others. Whatever you worry about 'ruining' will be easy enough to fix. :yes:

Mark

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You need to burn it as an image! Do not burn it as an .iso file on a disk. Do not open the .iso as separate files.

Also, BEFORE you burn, do an md5sum!!!! Make sure your image downloaded correctly! Look where you download it from, I guarantee that a reputable download source will have the md5sums there. :yes:

And, running it on a 486??? :o Knoppix uses KDE (one of the two largest Desktop Environments commpnly available for Linux). It sucks up RAM and CPU cycles. Do *NOT* use any LiveCD on that PC! You will want to *real* install a distro, and choose a lighter Window Manager, such as fluxbox or one of many others. Whatever you worry about 'ruining' will be easy enough to fix. :yes:

Mark

I thought you could select a WM on Knoppix. Can't remember which ones, I think it was OpenBox and something else.

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I thought you could select a WM on Knoppix. Can't remember which ones, I think it was OpenBox and something else.

You know... I think you may be right. Selectable by passing it as a parameter at boot time, is it not? I don't recall... :unsure:

But, as a LiveCD on a 80486... I don't think much will help. (The LiveCDs are a bit like running XP on a 486 :woot: )

This PC needs to just have Linux installed. :yes:

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I was going to add that question also. Is there a distro of Linux that will run sufficiently well on this old system?

ALL of them will run well, with the right selection of options.

I recommend using a current kernel/distro, but selecting a very light window manager. Also, RAM will be important. More is better.

But, don't make the mistake of using an old distro (i.e. RedHat 5 or so). That will just cause problems.

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I have Suse 8.2 Personal that I bought, but this is the only computer with the FAT32 file system. Think it will run at least as well as my 98SE on here? Thank you for all the help also. May just do that now after installing the 98SE sp1 file that I found on here posted by Gape after it foo barted some of my stuff. In the process of trying to clear that crap up as I type.

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Yes, you can have your Linux use a GUI and run as well as Win98. You will be able to use some mid-range Window Managers, as well. Try KDE (I think that is SuSE's default) and GNOME to see how the full Desktop Environments work for you. If they feel too sluggish, step down a level. I think you will find that Linux will do very well on your older PC.

You might want to use a newer version of Linux at a later date. I would say use SuSE 8.2 now, since you already have that. But, once you get the chance, use something more current.

BTW, for future reference, Mandrake (and maybe some others) are not made for your PC. Mandrake is set for Pentium or higher (i586)

Once you get to the install, if you have questions just let us know! :)

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Knoppix includes Fluxbox, xfce3 and other lightweight WMs. One does not normally download Knoppix in ZIP format (from any of the official mirrors anyway). Usually you download it as an .ISO and burn it as an image.

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Knoppix includes Fluxbox, xfce3 and other lightweight WMs. One does not normally download Knoppix in ZIP format (from any of the official mirrors anyway). Usually you download it as an .ISO and burn it as an image.

I think the other person's reference to it being in a Zip file is because WinRar (and possibly new versions of WinZip) show ISO files as an archive file by default, leading some newbies to think that is what they are.

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Yes, you can have your Linux use a GUI and run as well as Win98.  You will be able to use some mid-range Window Managers, as well.  Try KDE (I think that is SuSE's default) and GNOME to see how the full Desktop Environments work for you.  If they feel too sluggish, step down a level.  I think you will find that Linux will do very well on your older PC.

I hope your not saying to try KDE or GNOME on that 486. It'll run so horribly, it won't even be funny. I installed Gentoo on my old Pentium Pro @ 200mhz with 64MB RAM and fluxbox was decent, but trying to run any other semi-large applications was a nightmare. Mozilla Firebird took FOREVER to open! Imagine doing that on a machine atleast 3 times as slow.

Really, if this kids machine is that old, the most I'd run on it is the CLI only.

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I think the other person's reference to it being in a Zip file is because WinRar (and possibly new versions of WinZip) show ISO files as an archive file by default, leading some newbies to think that is what they are.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was doing. Not paying attention to the file extension and just looking at the icon. The file IS an ISO that looks like a zip. I'm NOT a nOOb at all to computers, but sure as heck am to Linux. I've been reading all I can, when I can, to have at least a grasp of what is happening, but, WOW!!

Noob question time again. What is this? CLI

Really, if this kids machine is that old, the most I'd run on it is the CLI only.

Also, with the references to use or not to use Suse on this old box, I'm hung again. My brother has ran Linux on a 486 before. Said it wasn't TO bad. BTW. This 486 150mhz, only has 80MB's memory.

BTW

Thanks for calling me a kid!!

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Most of the problems with slowness is due to a need of RAM. Beyond the resource requirements, there is user accpetability. What may seem horribly slow for one person is only sluggish to another.

There is no harm in trying something. It can be completely removed and replaced. After all, it is not Windows. ;)

[EDIT: CLI is Command Line Interface. Text mode]

[EDIT #2: 80MB isn't enough for a KDE/GNOME. 96 would be minimum, I think. But other GUIs will work fine]

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That's what I thought CLI was and I didn't think I had enough memory. Definitely don't want to use just a text mode. Guess I wait until one of my XP boxes mess up. You know that isn't happening though. XP runs to well.

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Your machine is not limited to Command Line. If you choose a fluxbox or other light GUI, you can run grpahically on that box. And, choosing a light Window Manager doesn't mean you will be limited in the apps. Any Window Manager can handle running the latest Firefox browser or any other app.

I would still give it a try.

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