Evolution or Creationism


  

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ok, i got a very very interesting question.

I am originally from Europe, but now i live in Florida, USA.

Our education system over there has taught me that evolution exists, that GOD is something... i don't know... static, like the air, or something like that, and Adam and Eve certainly didn't exist.

When i got here, i was surprised that most of the people believe in creationism, insted of evolution.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Christion, like most of us probably.

Just have a question:

What do u believe in, Evolution or Creationism ???

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nobody is gonna flame anybody

just say your point of view and that's all

and vote of couse.

by the way, i have some questions for the people that believe in creationism:

where is god and how did he creat us?

if there is god, why are there so many innocent people dying every minute on the earth?

isn't it possible that everything hat started from an one cell organism??

and no!!! we didn't come from monkeys.

nor apes :)

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I think it is obvious evolution exists, it happens infront of our eyes every day, but there is one single question that cannot be answered. How,where and when did that first single cell organism appear. If the answer to this is found, then there is no discussion.

Creationism has its own views, but leaves MANY more questions unanswered, including some of the ones you asked so far.

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I am an atheist and I believe in evolution.

Some christians are so hung up on taking to bible to its last dying word that they are pretty much blind to whats going on all around them.

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well, i'm not an atheist. and i believe that there is Gos somewhere there.... some power.... some destiny.

but this doesn't mean that God just created a man with the top of his fingertips, and from his rib - a woman?

how did this happen? do u think that if i take off one of my ribs, a woman will be created :)

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God exists in eternity both in and beyond time and space. Call it another dimension if you want. People die the way they do because of the worst disease there is. It's called sin and everyone on Earth is infected. With all the complexities within each and every one of the trillions of cells in each of us, it's a complete impossibility that it just happened by itself. A single cell is far more complicated than any computer. It contains far more information. Information implies intelligence, therefore an intelligent creator. The chain of inert elements to amino acids to proteins to living cells is so complex that it could not have happened randomly.

Some people say "I'll believe in God when I see Him."

I say "I'll believe man came from monkeys when I see one change in to the other."

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I for one think that both are posible, couldn't GOD have put evolving things here on this earth. Even Christianity teaches that we are here to be tested, ect... Isn't choosing the do the right thing as much as possible changing us as a person or even as a socioty? If we arn't changing and learning in some way what's the point in living? GOD could just sent us to the correct place right now.as for your questions,

"where is god and how did he creat us?"

I don't know the exact location, but what does it matter if He can see/help us? If man with our simple knowledge can build things on a molecular level, couldn't GOD do much better?

"if there is god, why are there so many innocent people dying every minute on the earth? "

I think that it goes back the the living/learning part, the innocent go to their place, and people who cause it are earning their place. that is why GOD is just.

"isn't it possible that everything hat started from an one cell organism?? "

Sure it's possible, and again having it both ways GOD could have started most of life here that way.

Desvio

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The Bible says that God IS involved with people. It tells us that the very hairs on our heads are numbered. God isn't some distant "force" or any thing of the sort. He'a a loving Father, calling His children back to Himself. Sin is what separates us from Him, and He gave us His Son who died in our place.

Many choose to believe that Christians believe out of ignorance. I became a Christian out of knowledge. I studied the Bible backwards and forward for many months, and I've kept studying it for many years since. One day I learned that God is right and I was wrong, God is true and I was false, God is truth and I am a liar, that God is righteous and I'm a sinner. Yet still He gave His Son to die in my place! So I became His, and I've never regretted it. I've never known of anyone who has.

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Originally posted by Xcalibur

yep.. i'm materialist.. i dont believe something until u can see/taste/here/touch/feel.. etc...

anyway.. i don't believe in god...i'm pro scientific.

My sentiments exactly...

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Originally posted by ventsi83

nobody is gonna flame anybody

just say your point of view and that's all

and vote of couse.

by the way, i have some questions for the people that believe in creationism:

where is god and how did he creat us?

if there is god, why are there so many innocent people dying every minute on the earth?

isn't it possible that everything hat started from an one cell organism??

and no!!! we didn't come from monkeys.

nor apes :)

i believe in god. God created all

where is god ?....god is everything all around us

why are so many innocent people dying its called karma. And everything cant be perfect in this world, just accept gods will.

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wow agrumpyoldfart

this was your first post:) congrats

see, i'm not saying that there is no God.

i'm also materialist like xcalibur, but i can say that i can't believe absolutely in only a book.

i mean, what about if someone, 2000... 2100... 3000 years ago just wrote this story. named the book bible and that's all.

what about jesus, did he exist, is there prove for that?

again, just curiousity. that's all

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ok, what about this

i know that evolution is not fully proven

if, i say : "if" the scientists prove that evolution is the way we came to earth, and thus, adam and even didn't exist

and you have PROVE that they didn't exist, are u going to believe in creationism still

are u going to believe in the Bible, if it is proven that Adam and Eve, AT LEAST this story in it is a lie??

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Heres my thoughts...

I'm also materialistic

I believe in evolution

God and everything that has to do with him is made up

Everything about it was made to try to make ppl be good and not do what some view as bad things and why do bad things happen all the time to undeserving ppl? And dont say god works in mysteriest ways because that is just another one of them things ppl say to try to keep us in check anyways thats my view on it

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Oh and when ppl say they dont believe in evolution i cant understand how they can not believe in something that is here and proven....Why do whales have hip bones? because they used to walk on land...why do we have a bone at the end of our spine that has no use which is called not scientifically but its called the tailbone? and horses evoluved from dogs or the other way around i dont remember! also evolution happens everyday well maybe only in certain seasons.....caterpillar to a butterfly...larve into a fly or ant....tappole into a frog....and lots of others

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Figured i would add some of my thoughts on Creationism.

Christianity is a fear factory. It is something created to blame our own conscience on. It is designed to cause fear, doubt and uncertainty to purposefully force people into conformity. A conformity that is blind to truths all around us. Christians devote so much of their lives to studying and adhering to rules written eons ago that are not only grossly out of date, but are so contradictory its rediculous. In doing so, they miss what is really going on around us. Evolution is everywhere. Supernova explained this quite well i believe.

Christianity is an excuse. A tool to explain away peoples own ignorance. There is nothing about the creationist theory that can be readily proven.

Why devote so much of your life to what is, essentially, only fruitless speculation ?

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As for I know god(Allah) is the creator.

Gods words traslated by Yusuf Ali

chapter 112 Al-Ikhlas (The Purity)

1:1 In the name of 'Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

112:1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

112:2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

112:3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

112:4 And there is none like unto Him.

More details about Allah , other chapters. The holy book (quran) does only talk about him, other stuff.

You guys/gal would be scared after death if you don't have the right religion. So many religion, most are fake; only one real religion

In my region we don't worship man like Jesus( a prophet) or other prophets and called them "God", but we respect them. Don't forget all the prophets worship the same god(Allah), and they did not tell their people to worship me, but only god(Allah).

Most of you don't know the true story about Jesus. The man that died was not him, but had the same face and body. Read the holy book (Quran). The Quran is Allah's is words.

my two cents :)

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Very well put keldyn!

Also the virgin mary they probably didnt know back then that people can get pregnant even if they didnt have sex, i'm sure you ppl have heard about women getting pregnant from there bf's ummm beating stuff around there stuff and all that and they get pregnant also women getting pregnant from being in swimming pools and other stuff so thats how she could have gotten pregnant....so they just examined her whats it called the skin that can tell if there virgins or not i think its hyman or something like that and seen that it was still in tact and assumed that it was some kinda of miracle or whatever and blamed it on some illusionary figure

Also somethign else i just rememberd ok on every cross (well the ones i've seen) they show jesus with the spikes through his hands and it has been proven that spikes through hands would not hold a human up because the weight would rip and theyd fall the spikes would have to be through the wrists so why do they have jesus with spikes through his hands on crosses?

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guess i have a little time to kill right now, so i will enter this disscussion.

here is my view.

at first there was spirit (call in god if you want - but i would think of it as one common knowledge storage) and it multiplied. slowly part of it materialised and became substance, which, through evolution became the world today.

but i guess the process of materialization could actually be called evolution as well.

so there - it is evolution :)

but ateism is not the choice for me. i belive in higher beings, i just dont belive in religion and dogma.

does buddism hold some answers? we may never know..

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