Real Begs Apple for Alliance


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Real should just stop whining and start making some real products. Isn't it enough that they sued Microsoft! What a ----ing baby

Edit: and I don't think making media player (and expecting people to pay for such crap) will get them anywhere :sleep:

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well, if apple helps real, apple sells more ipods and may be able to defend their position when ms tries to use it's monopoly power to force people to use wma.

do i like hp?

no, but by selling hPod's, apple wins.

do i like real?

no, but by selling iPod's (and fighting ms), apple wins.

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well, if apple helps real, apple sells more ipods and may be able to defend their position when ms tries to use it's monopoly power to force people to use wma.

do i like hp?

no, but by selling hPod's, apple wins.

do i like real?

no, but by selling iPod's (and fighting ms), apple wins.

you talk about ms forcing people to use wma. well by taking what you said, i believe that you are letting ms force you to use other formats. it seems that you hate ms just for the hell of it, as someone else said, "because it is the 'in' thing to do"

STV

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Let them beg. Have them publish a video online of the top 100 execs getting on their hands and knees, begging Apple (or anyone for that matter) to save them. Then someone might help them, just out of pity. Until then, Real deserves to go banckrupt.

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According to the email leaked by Apple, it was more like threatening them than actually begging. Considering that Real is not in a position to do that, that was really dumb.

Also, according to CNet, they not only create a PR nighmare for Real, they might have also hurt their case against Microsoft by threatening Apple that they might form an alliance with MS.

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how much? smart guy.  :rolleyes:  and for what reason?

edit: I despise real by the way  :shifty:

Real claimed that it's losing customers because Microsoft includes WMP with Windows, so people don't download RealOne.

Honestly, come on... If a file needs RealOne, and one wants to view it, he/she will install RealOne and watch the file, end of story. Real has a groundless argument from my perspective...

Edit: Here's a link to the article on Neowin: https://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=16052&category=main

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you talk about ms forcing people to use wma. well by taking what you said, i believe that you are letting ms force you to use other formats. it seems that you hate ms just for the hell of it, as someone else said, "because it is the 'in' thing to do"

STV

nice try, guy.

wma will end being like msie was back in the day. "oh, we can't remove it from the operating system"

princeton professor comes into court, shows how it can be removed.

ms turns around and releases an 'update' that makes it impossible to remove msie.

so what was the default browser on your computer when you first turned it on?

i don't hate ms, but if you ignore the fact that ms has used it's monopoly to push themselves into people's lives, you're a moron.

it has nothing to do with what is "in", it's common sense.

do you have any?

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nice try, guy.

wma will end being like msie was back in the day. "oh, we can't remove it from the operating system"

princeton professor comes into court, shows how it can be removed.

ms turns around and releases an 'update' that makes it impossible to remove msie.

so what was the default browser on your computer when you first turned it on?

i don't hate ms, but if you ignore the fact that ms has used it's monopoly to push themselves into people's lives, you're a moron.

it has nothing to do with what is "in", it's common sense.

do you have any?

two, things:

- i understand your position, but i dont agree with all of it

- i am not a moron :)

STV

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wma will end being like msie was back in the day. "oh, we can't remove it from the operating system"

and wma is a file format, not a program :) I don't see any reason why you can't remove wma... simply delete the file and it's gone :whistle:

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I really think Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by not opening up. History is repeating itself. Apple has a HUGE lead on the competition....Apple gets a big head...Apple gets complacent...Apple puts out one or two bad machines/makes a couple dumb moves...Apple loses marketshare handoverfoot. We saw it with the personal computers, and if Apple keeps the big head and the closed system, it may just happen again. As of right now, the iPod is really the only thing that Apple is making serious bank on right now. You all saw it...46 million in profits for the quarter. Without the iPod, that's pretty much gone.

Whether it's Real or Dell or Sony...I say if a big company comes begging for your product, you let them use it...course if you're as desparate as Real is, you take them to the cleaners on the deal...but you let them in nonetheless

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I really think Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by not opening up. History is repeating itself. Apple has a HUGE lead on the competition....Apple gets a big head...Apple gets complacent...Apple puts out one or two bad machines/makes a couple dumb moves...Apple loses marketshare handoverfoot. We saw it with the personal computers, and if Apple keeps the big head and the closed system, it may just happen again. As of right now, the iPod is really the only thing that Apple is making serious bank on right now. You all saw it...46 million in profits for the quarter. Without the iPod, that's pretty much gone.

Whether it's Real or Dell or Sony...I say if a big company comes begging for your product, you let them use it...course if you're as desparate as Real is, you take them to the cleaners on the deal...but you let them in nonetheless

seems like i'm going to disagree with you on everything here.

you forget that most of apple's problem came while jobs was gone. there was an issue of macaddict (that i probably threw out) listing all of apple's ceo's and all the 'bad stuff' that occurred under each man's reign.

besides, for as much as jobs has brought to apple over the past years, you can hardly doubt the man knows what he's doing.

the real question is, what if he dies?

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