OrangeSoul Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 New research into the Turin Shroud has added to the mystery surrounding the controversial artefact. A second ghostly image of a man's face has been discovered on the back of the linen, according to a report published by London's Institute of Physics. The delicate 14ft-long linen sheet is believed by some to be the cloth in which Jesus was wrapped after being taken down from the cross. It has been dismissed by others as an elaborate hoax. The back of the shroud has rarely been seen as it was hidden beneath a piece of cloth sewn on by nuns in 1534, after it was damaged by fire. But the back surface was exposed during a restoration project in 2002. A professor at Italy's Padua University, Giulio Fanti, thought he saw a "faint image" in the photographs from this project and decided to investigate it further. "Though the image is very faint, features such as nose, eyes, hair, beard and moustaches are clearly visible," he said. "There are some slight differences with the known face. For example, the nose on the reverse side shows the same extension of both nostrils, unlike the front side, in which the right nostril is less evident." Professor Fanti has dismissed claims that the image on the back confirms that the shroud is a fake - with paint soaking from the front to the back. "This is not the case of the shroud. On both sides, the face image is superficial, involving only the outermost linen fibres," he said. "It is extremely difficult to make a fake with these features." Shrouded in mystery These findings are just the latest in the controversy which has dogged the cloth since it was first photographed more than 100 years ago. In 1988 the shroud was revealed as a fake Carbon-dating tests carried out in 1988 suggested the shroud was a fake. In the 1988 study, scientists from three universities concluded that the cloth dated from some time between 1260 and 1390, and that it was not the burial cloth wrapped around the body of Christ. That led to the humiliating spectacle of the then Cardinal of Turin, Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, admitting the garment was a hoax. But since then, some doubt has been cast on the carbon-dating techniques. In 1997, a Swiss archaeologist who spent 16 years studying the shroud said new tests had proved its authenticity "beyond all reasonable doubt". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3621931.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schueyeee Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Seems false to me.. NAH..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicfume Veteran Posted April 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 16, 2004 ahhhh....the great expectation-ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malechai Veteran Posted April 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 16, 2004 maybe i'm nuts but the "face" on the right side (or back) looks like the reverse of the "face" on the left (or front). ie. its the one on the front showing through. lol whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted April 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 16, 2004 ^ yup. I love how people can make pictures out of anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 i can make a picture out of a squashed bug :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 :rolleyes: A load of rubbish -- this shroud has already proven to be fake, acknowledged by the Catholic Church as not genuine, and does not date anywhere near the time of Christ. It dates from the 1200's. And the real Christ was not nearly as ugly as the 'face' on the so-called shroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted April 22, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 22, 2004 (edited) i can make a picture out of a squashed bug :whistle: Get back to us when you can make a bug out of a squashed picture. :D edited for grammer Edited April 22, 2004 by fred666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danrarbc Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 :rolleyes: A load of rubbish -- this shroud has already proven to be fake, acknowledged by the Catholic Church as not genuine, and does not date anywhere near the time of Christ. It dates from the 1200's.And the real Christ was not nearly as ugly as the 'face' on the so-called shroud. "He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him." But yeah, the shroud seems to be from the 1200s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring0 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 And the real Christ was not nearly as ugly as the 'face' on the so-called shroud. so you used to hang out with jesus all the time, i'd imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaZoR Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Jesus must have been gay, because all he did was hang around with men, his disciples. According to the bible anyway. On topic; yea, that "shroud" isn't old enough to date from 2,000 years ago (carbon dating). So therefore whoever's face is upon it, is basically pointless. ie. Roger Irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Anyone ever heard the theory that it is really a prank pulled by Leonardo Da Vinci himself. That's my favourite theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishX Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Two things: Jesus must have been gay, because all he did was hang around with men, his disciples. According to the bible anyway. According to some scholars and recently discovered church documents in France, Jesus supposedly didn't die after being crucified, but was ushered out of the tomb in the middle of the night. He (again supposedly) later moved to where France is now with Mary Magdeline, got married and had kids... depends which "books" you believe, I guess. Anyway, the Shroud was analyzed on a molecular level and the stains aren't blood at all. They are a type of resin. Not sweat, not blood... just resin. Truly faked and widely accepted as scientific fact these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOGMaster Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I wish people would spend as much time studying the Bible as they do this dumb piece of cloth. <yawns> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 so you used to hang out with jesus all the time, i'd imagine? :laugh: Shhh .... yes I hung out with Josh (His birth name) many times. He had reddish-brown hair and deep blue eyes. He also had many women followers and helpers too, not just men. Remember, the New Testament Bible stories were written by MEN. And yes, Christ knew how to party ... hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylene Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Wow, something else I saw on the History channel.. just like that Philadelphia Project thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOGMaster Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Wow, something else I saw on the History channel.. just like that Philadelphia Project thing. The "shroud" is nothing more than a piece of cloth. It is no big deal. It is merely a catholic ploy to focus more attention on something other than Jesus Christ himself - and His word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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