Chad Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Apple? Gaming? Same sentance? I don't think so! :p ;) You can have them in the same sentence, but you'd have to put "sucks at" between Apple and gaming. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 That's fine, but if someone wants to buy a Mac for gaming, I'll be one of the first ones to set them straight. There are OK games for the Mac. Granted, the games are becoming more and more common, but the majority of the games that are ported, are ported horribly. Either that, or you need one hell of a Mac to run them. It's not the hardware at issue...it's the os. As many good things as OS X does, gaming is not one of them. If someone comes here, or anywhere, asking which Mac he/she should buy for gaming, I'll say there are no good Macs for gaming...because Macs SUCK at playing games. There are decent games on OS X, but it still stucks. Always have, possibly always will. And I like it that way. If you want gaming to not suck on OS X, you need to get some companies to start writing these games from scratch instead of simply porting them. Course life on earth as we know it will have been long gone when that happens, so there's no need to fret. to get good ports, you have to get the companies (like ea) to lower the licensing fees. if you have to pay $40 to sell a $50 game, why would you bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gawdflesh Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Hence, that is one of the reasons why gaming on the Mac sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 I think this month i've got a lot of bucks saved that's why my mind was going towards buying a new kind of machine, so i thought why not Mac :)...i already have those high end prescotts n XT gaming cards. I'm stuck on this step actually :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I think this month i've got a lot of bucks saved that's why my mind was going towards buying a new kind of machine, so i thought why not Mac :)...i already have those high end prescotts n XT gaming cards. I'm stuck on this step actually :) good, then just use your highend PC for gaming, and a new Mac for everything else. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 to get good ports, you have to get the companies (like ea) to lower the licensing fees. if you have to pay $40 to sell a $50 game, why would you bother? Licensing fees have nothing to do with how good a port is. I'm not talking about if a game will be ported or not, I'm talking about the games that are ported over are done very poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Licensing fees have nothing to do with how good a port is. I'm not talking about if a game will be ported or not, I'm talking about the games that are ported over are done very poorly. i didn't mean the quality of the port, i meant... to get ports of the best games. i mean, if ea dropped the licensing fee, perhaps more people would be interested in porting say, nfs:u to osx. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envark Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 If budget is no problem then buy yourself a Dual 2Ghz G5 with a 23" Cinema Display and send me the same thing while your buyin;);)Macs tend to be known for graphics, though majority of games do work on OS :):) Radish? If budget is no option you should buy a Mac and then buy all the game development companies. You can then have your game development companies develop games for your Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 If budget is no option you should buy a Mac and then buy all the game development companies.You can then have your game development companies develop games for your Mac. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 oik: 4 pages and you're still persistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 Ok i meant no budget restrictions...i didnt mean im a nephew of a maharaja or a relative to Bill Gates that i start buying companies hehe :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 oik: 4 pages and you're still persistant. it helps me relieve stress when i try to compile a c++ program and get a compiler error for something i know nothing about, even though my code is correct. if anybody knows about "error LNK2019", pm me. stupid pos vc++ .net... *waits. and waits and waits. still no pm's* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Usually people here aren't that biased towards Apple. Oh please. :rolleyes: This board sucks as much ass as macs do at gaming. :sleep: Gotta love how a thread on this board cannot get over 2 pages long without turning into flame wars and insults. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Oh please. :rolleyes: This board sucks as much ass as macs do at gaming. :sleep: Gotta love how a thread on this board cannot get over 2 pages long without turning into flame wars and insults. Garbage. Flame wars and insults don't correlate to people being biased towards Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Flame wars and insults don't correlate to people being biased towards Apple. let's take the base words of that sentence: wars don't correlate to people being biased. hmm... so we didn't get attacked on 9/11 because people have different beliefs? it's a bad example, i know, but whenever you have people with differing opinions, arguments will start eventually, it's the way life is. in the real world, it's fights, gangs, and wars. on a forum, it's insults and flame wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Flame wars and insults don't correlate to people being biased towards Apple. Yes, they do. Idiots all across this board who are so biased one way or the other are the ones starting the flame wars and insults. Do you really think they are unrelated or were you just trying to start yet another argument? And I was being specific to the mac section at Neowin, I don't go to the rest of the site so I would not know how immature the rest of the board is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Yes, they do. Idiots all across this board who are so biased one way or the other are the ones starting the flame wars and insults. Do you really think they are unrelated or were you just trying to start yet another argument? And I was being specific to the mac section at Neowin, I don't go to the rest of the site so I would not know how immature the rest of the board is. I think someone needs to check their own Apple biases at the door. If you don't like it here, don't post. There's no reason to hijack a thread for your own tangent. Biases DO NOT start flame wars. Idiocy is what starts them. One can be biased about something, yet not start a flame war about it, simply because they aren't an idiot. Perhaps this thread should just be locked up. The Apple gaming discussion has been hashed over and is pretty much been beaten to a pulp, and now this new rant has just killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabaTime Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I said this before and I will say it again, for gaming stick with PC, if you wanna grow up come to the mac world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I said this before and I will say it again, for gaming stick with PC, if you wanna grow up come to the mac world So what all gamers are kids? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hey cool, youll be able to play warcraft3 and superfallout.. have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Reminds me of the lines across Apple Trinitron CRT monitors. The 16" display had one line of dead pixels and the 20" had two lines of dead pixels. People used to own those monitor for years and didn't notice them. Then once you point them out they can't stop staring at them. I know, it was mean of me. :devil: 1. It's not just Apple Trinitrons, my Dell 19" Trinitron flat screen CRT has them too (two lines). 2. They're not dead pixels, they are actually seams in the shadow mask. 3. Yes, most of the time they don't bother me, but if I do happen to look at them, it's hard to get them out of your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 someone already said that they arent dead pixels. out of curiosity, where are they? at the bottom or down the sides or right accross the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Sorry, I replied to that mesage before I saw the other replies. The lines are horizontal, at about 20% down the screen and about 80% down (just an estimate, I'm not in front of that computer at the moment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danrarbc Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I said this before and I will say it again, for gaming stick with PC, if you wanna grow up come to the mac world The day I 'grow up' and stop gaming is the day I die. My 60 year old father plays games every day. This doesn't mean every computer I own in the future has to be a capable gaming machine however, but I always want at least one around the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think someone needs to check their own Apple biases at the door.If you don't like it here, don't post.? There's no reason to hijack a thread for your own tangent.? Biases DO NOT start flame wars.? Idiocy is what starts them.? One can be biased about something, yet not start a flame war about it, simply because they aren't an idiot. Perhaps this thread should just be locked up.? The Apple gaming discussion has been hashed over and is pretty much been beaten to a pulp, and now this new rant has just killed it. I am really hoping you weren't referring to me. I have not said a single thing about apple in this entire thread. I never said that just because you are biased you HAVE to start a flame war, what I said is that the idiots that do start them, do it because they are biased. People kill other people out of anger, doesn't mean that everyone who is angry at someone else kills people. So following your logic, do you think everyone who is an idiot starts a flame war? One can be an idiot and not start a flame war, simply because they are not on the internet, or don't read forums, or couldn't care less about computers, or for a slue of other reasons. Hijacking a thread, eh? Like this thread was so entirely on topic before I posted. Not only have I not mentioned anything about apple, but I never mentioned anything about you. Let's have a quote... Again, is your selfesteem so low you need to insult others to make you feel better? Good grief. Hmm, interesting question. I don't know where you ever came up with the conclusion that I am biased towards Apple Computer Co. You don't even know me? I use an apple computer because it fits in with what I use it for and I find myself more productive on it. I still have a ton of complaints with not only the hardware but the whole operating system itself. If open source, Microsoft or any other company offered me something that I found more attractive and fit my needs and wants better then I would switch to them in a heartbeat. Apple is a slave to my money, not the other way around. I have no loyalty to a computer company. If you are going to throw asinine insults at me, at least try tosomee honesty in with it. As far as the topic on hand, gaming on a macintosh computer, it depends on so many aspects it is impossible for us to give you sound advice. If you are buying a computer, and it is going to be your only machine, then I would not recommend getting a macintosh if gaming is a primary hobby of yours. It also depends on what else you will be doing with you computer. From your posts, it sounds like you already have a nice x86 machine to play games with, so in your case, if you have some expendable income and you are looking to just try out mac, go for it. It might not be your cup of tea but at least you have tried it. There are plenty of good articles on the internet about gaming on macs. I have heard it got significantly better with the introduction of the G5s, but like some have already mentioned here, most games, from what I have read, are simply ports of x86 games and sometimes they are not well done. After I bought my powerbook for work, I still kept my PC for games but gave it up as I had no time for games between work and school and the monitor and box were taking up too much space on my desk. If I ever was to start gaming I would just get an xbox or something as they seem cheaper. Do you already have consoles and are looking for more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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