aristotle-dude Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 According to macslash.org the next version of Office for mac (2004) will include VPC 7.0 which includes G5 compatibility. Apparently, this information is available only on the microsoft france site at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbalsh Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Old news this was known last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Right, tis old, but still cool for the Mac fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle-dude Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 I'm sure it is old news but this was apparently the first official mention of it on their site unless I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted April 21, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 21, 2004 I believe they've mentioned it in interviews and press releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocks1985 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Can you run any Windows XP/PC application on Virtual PC 7.0? including games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Can you run any Windows XP/PC application on Virtual PC 7.0? including games? yeah i believe so even though you can't... you should ask "Can you run any OS X application on Windows XP/PC?" :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted April 23, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 23, 2004 Can you run any Windows XP/PC application on Virtual PC 7.0? including games? Just about, but games you might want to leave out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocks1985 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Just about, but games you might want to leave out. Only "just about"? So there are Windows Apps that cannot run on VP7? And why would you want to leave games out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Only "just about"? So there are Windows Apps that cannot run on VP7?And why would you want to leave games out? No, there are not apps that cannot run, it's just that it is very slow, so if you are going to rely on it for some very processor/memory intensive applications, it might not run so well. You would want to leave games out because it is so slow. You can only allocate so much RAM to vpc and as far as I know, vpc cannot take advantage of 3d technologies like openGL, and if it can, it is extremely slow. On a 1ghz powerbook using vpc6 with windows XP, I would compare it to using a lower end pentium 2 age computer if that. It's not like it is natively running windows or anything. If it was that good, don't you think that macintosh market share would be a little higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b|iZZaRd Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 is VPC 7.0 included in the preview for office 2004?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 i know that vpc7 would work on the g5, but i didn't know vpc7 would be included with office... will it be bundled with the student edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocks1985 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 No, there are not apps that cannot run, it's just that it is very slow, so if you are going to rely on it for some very processor/memory intensive applications, it might not run so well.You would want to leave games out because it is so slow. You can only allocate so much RAM to vpc and as far as I know, vpc cannot take advantage of 3d technologies like openGL, and if it can, it is extremely slow. On a 1ghz powerbook using vpc6 with windows XP, I would compare it to using a lower end pentium 2 age computer if that. It's not like it is natively running windows or anything. If it was that good, don't you think that macintosh market share would be a little higher? true. i have heard that it is slow. what if you were running it on a dual G5? if you could somehow "assign" one processor to handle the task of emulating a Windows PC, then you'd have one whole 2Ghz G5 processor left to run 3D games not to say everything else well! right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFNE Freak Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i know that vpc7 would work on the g5, but i didn't know vpc7 would be included with office... will it be bundled with the student edition? No, it only comes on the Professional edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Wouldn't MS have an increased incentive to make WinXP run faster on the Mac? It would surely increase sales of WinXP and other applications on that platform. The only people that lose are the PC makers, and MS sure as hell don't care about them do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocks1985 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 No, there are not apps that cannot run, it's just that it is very slow, so if you are going to rely on it for some very processor/memory intensive applications, it might not run so well.You would want to leave games out because it is so slow. You can only allocate so much RAM to vpc and as far as I know, vpc cannot take advantage of 3d technologies like openGL, and if it can, it is extremely slow. On a 1ghz powerbook using vpc6 with windows XP, I would compare it to using a lower end pentium 2 age computer if that. It's not like it is natively running windows or anything. If it was that good, don't you think that macintosh market share would be a little higher? I know this would cost a fortune and no average joe would ever buy this much memory at once, but if one were to purchase a Dual 2.0GHz Powermac G5 with 8GB of RAM and the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro for $8000, would this guarantee they could run any windows app as fast as the average desktop Windows PC? Or are you still going to say, "nope, that won't do it". That's two 64 bit processors, 8 gigs of ram, and one of the fastest?? GPU's on the market. I would think this could run DOOM 3 like it was running on a 3.4 Ghz Windows based PC with 2 gigs of ram and whatever else u need to run it flawlessly in its windows environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frod Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I know this would cost a fortune and no average joe would ever buy this much memory at once, but if one were to purchase a Dual 2.0GHz Powermac G5 with 8GB of RAM and the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro for $8000, would this guarantee they could run any windows app as fast as the average desktop Windows PC?Or are you still going to say, "nope, that won't do it". That's two 64 bit processors, 8 gigs of ram, and one of the fastest?? GPU's on the market. I would think this could run DOOM 3 like it was running on a 3.4 Ghz Windows based PC with 2 gigs of ram and whatever else u need to run it flawlessly in its windows environment. i don't think you get the point. this is emulation here. EVERYTHING is going through the software and getting converted to something the ppc architecture can understand. you wouldn't be able to run doom3 through vpc at all regardless of what your mac is running. your graphics card hardware isn't being used at all when displaying the windows environment. a software renderer is rendering all of the visuals and then using your normal video to display the prerendered images. you can't run anything 3d in vpc as far as i know. taking the processor instructions, converting them to the ppc instruction set and then sending them out to the processor will never be fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 if you were to buy an $8000 powermac, then i think u can go the extra 1k for a pc. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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