nugg3t Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I sure as hell could build a console!...whether or not it would be a working console is a different question entirely. :ninja: u can???!! hey uhmm, u wanna merge with my company? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 :laugh:of course he couldnt , hes just trying to make a point.. ah forget it I get the point, some people don't think it would be a good idea--whereas more people in this thread have expressed that they do in fact like it. In the end though it has about a 97% chance of not happening and this is all just speculation. Still, I think that both companies could offer each other something worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 You could merge with Inifinium, they don't have a working console either... But that was a good point nugg3t, Apple isn't exactly known for its gaming prowess; it's one of the biggest things PC has against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbob Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 icube sounds pretty hot. i'd like to see it match an ipod, apple def has style What about iSphere? :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leifster Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Apple/Ninty has alot of potential, iTunes, iPod link up, aesthetically and a link with chip-makers. But, like alot of people have said - a $500 Ninty console? When a selling point before was its cheapness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l77Il7H Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 nintendo is the greatest console game company ever existed, it does not need any help. the day nintendo die is the same day as armagedon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazildondude Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 nintendo is the greatest console game company ever existed, it does not need any help. the day nintendo die is the same day as armagedon. When Sega was still in the console business, I thought differently (Megadrive/Genesis > Snes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 And as they proved, games are more important than anything. Dreamcast was great hardware but by and large lacked games. Ditto with N64 vs Playstation, the former had far superior graphics but without a developer base it meant nothing. Nintendo needs games that will compel people to buy their systems, and they just dont' have it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 And as they proved, games are more important than anything. Dreamcast was great hardware but by and large lacked games. Ditto with N64 vs Playstation, the former had far superior graphics but without a developer base it meant nothing. Nintendo needs games that will compel people to buy their systems, and they just dont' have it anymore. The problem is the market was not what it once was during the Golden years of the NES/SNES and Nintendo is still doing what they?re doing, but that will only keep the loyal Nintendo fan base coming back to them while not gaining many new customers. I?m a Nintendo fan, since I grew up with it, and back then the NES was THE console to have. I remember when I went to go buy my NES Power Set (the one with the 3 in one game pak ? Mario, Duck Hunt, and Track & Field) and there was a Turbo Graphics 16 sitting out there on display (who remembers that one, lol) and I was very entertained by the better graphics but I still bought the NES because there were more games that I wanted for it. The same thing is happening now with the PS2 and Xbox versus the GC and furthermore between the PSX and N64 (where the problem all started), and like I said it?s not drawing in any new blood so to speak. I admire Nintendo in a way that they haven?t been compromising their vision just to appeal to the masses (although Prime 2 might be the first chink in the armor with its multi-player) by not making a bunch of FPSers or hack and slash games just to appeal to this new generation of gamers where the majority of them only care about those things and would get their asses kicked in any old school 8-bit game?but it is the same thing that is causing them not to be attractive to that demographic. All I know is it will be a very sad day for the world of gaming if there will never be another Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. game again. In addition Nintendo has already said that the day that they don?t make another console is the day they leave the industry, period. So don?t expect the franchises to make it over to another system other than one made by Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leifster Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 All I know is it will be a very sad day for the world of gaming if there will never be another Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. game again. It would be, except Ninty won't stop making games. They'll stop making consoles that aren't attractive towards 'the mainstream'. I doubt Mario, Zelda and especially Metroid will die out for a very long time. Just expect them to be on the next-next-gen consoles made by Sony and M$, unless Ninty pull off something special with the next console. Sony will win the console war. And probably the next three console wars. It has a following like Nintendo now, it has the following of the 'mainstream'. M$ have loadsa money to chuck at the next console from their other financial sources, Sony have plenty of money from other sources aswell, not that they need it with the success of their recent consoles. Nintendo don't have these other sources. Games are their source of income. That's why Metroid, Zelda and Mario won't die out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 It would be, except Ninty won't stop making games. They'll stop making consoles that aren't attractive towards 'the mainstream'. I doubt Mario, Zelda and especially Metroid will die out for a very long time. Just expect them to be on the next-next-gen consoles made by Sony and M$, unless Ninty pull off something special with the next console.Sony will win the console war. And probably the next three console wars. It has a following like Nintendo now, it has the following of the 'mainstream'. M$ have loadsa money to chuck at the next console from their other financial sources, Sony have plenty of money from other sources aswell, not that they need it with the success of their recent consoles. Nintendo don't have these other sources. Games are their source of income. That's why Metroid, Zelda and Mario won't die out. Did you even bother to read the sentence directly following the one you quoted from me? And since when has Nintendo been called Ninty? WTF is that? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leifster Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 I never said that the Metroid etc. games would be made by Ninty (no idea where that came from, must be some European thing. Try it, it's addictive ;)). The day they leave the industry will be the day that they leave the copyrights behind. Miyamoto-san won't be the only person capable of making a decent Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywise Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Wow, where should I start...#1 Nintendo is currently in a niche market. They sell their wares to people that are either long-time Nintendo fanboys (like you and I) or children. They continue to have trouble finding new customers or third-party developers. They are basically stuck with great first person titles, some good Sega stuff, and a few other assorted titles. This does not make them competitive. #2 I hope that you are right and Nintendo has learned from their past mistakes. However, I have my doubts. Do they realize that their controller design should be usable for ALL types of games? While the Gamecube controller is great for Zelda and other games with a movable camera, it is hell for fighting and sports games. This is a problem because fighting and sports games are a big draw among the high school and college markets. Did I mention how big the high school and college markets are for videogame companies? :) Furthermore, I hope that Nintendo has learned that GBA connectivity is not going to save them. A lot of people do not want to own X amount of GBAs just to get the full playability out of a game. If they are so hung up with the interactive controller angle, then they should do like the Dreamcast controllers. #3 Nintendo has been releasing pretty pure and streamlined console systems, while the competition has been releasing multi-function units. The fact that the X-Box and PS2 can double as CD players and DVD players is no small deal. Of course, this does not mean that Nintendo's approach is inherently flawed. They just have to release their next generation console with a low MSRP. I'm talking about $100-150 right off the bat. Parents shopping for a console for their children will be like, "Hmmm...I could spend $150 on this here Nintendo console that just plays games or I could spend $300 on this here Sony or MS console that does many things." I think I'll save my extra $150 for something else and buy the Nintendo. This would be especially helpful if they get their next console out first. It would be an easy way to gain overwhelming market share quickly. #4 Developers. Nintendo needs them. It is true, regardless of whether or not they like to admit it. The next Nintendo console needs to be a platform that is easy to develop for and powerful. They should also stop being so arrogant and burning all of their bridges. Imagine how many more people would buy their stuff if their were an assortmant of quality third party games in addition to their usual first party works of art. #5 Backwards compatibility. It is a must have in today's world of optical media. I would also recommend that the next generation Nintendo console be able to play GBA games right out of the box. This would be a good selling point. I think that this finishes the post because everythin he just said was true. Nintendo hate to admit it but they REALLY do need Developers. They also need to release another good console like the 64. Because the 64 was an "ownage" console. I for one still play my 64 and im sure people across the worlds do too. If another 64 was developed and created solely for games, i believe that it would be extremely successful, because as ^^he said, Parents shopping for a console for their children would definately buy the console with only the games capabilities because if the family owns an external DVD player and CD player then it really isn't worth the extra ?150. Well said my Envark, well said my friend. SammyWise:blink:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 The day they leave the industry will be the day that they leave the copyrights behind. Miyamoto-san won't be the only person capable of making a decent Mario. Somehow I doubt they'd leave their copyrights un-renewed, keep dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswarts Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Reason why it could never happen...Nintendo = Japanese company Apple = USA I was thinking the same thing, but it isn't impossible. But look at what we're saying? When compaines merge, it is because both companies can offer each other something. We are saying Apple (being unbelievably elite) could save Nintendo. What the hell can Nintendo do for Apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black.ops Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 How about...Apple helps out with the US market. For example...Nintendo is already owning in Japan. But here in the States it is completely different. What they can do is release 2 different consoles. Both will play same games etc. but the Apple version will have sleeker design connect wit Ipod, but will cost more. This way the people that want the connectivity and stuff will be happier, but the people who soley want games will have a choice (unlike sony+microsoft...) but then again..if they merged with sega it would be sweet too :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanPete Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 all nintendo need to do is:- 1. Use standard media, ie normal sized dvd's (Physical and data size) 2. Change their market, i.e. Make some games that teenagers like to play (eg without manga relation - look how good bond was on the N64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardice Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Nintendo needs to merge with Apple.They are both very elitist companies that make swell products. Steve Jobs has a midas touch right now and could repair Nintendo's sinking ship. That is a very interesting idea :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 I still want to see a Triforce console: Sega, Namco, and Nintendo :drool: They've been responsible for things like the last F-Zero and Soul Calibur II ... I think they're on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywise Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 It would be interesting to see development's of the "triforce". Because they would be a major threat to MS and Sony and it would be interesting watching what happened to prices and game quality after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 look how good bond was on the N64 Bond WAS n64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin89h Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 nooo Nintendo... DONT GO OVER TO THE DARK SIDE (I hate Apple) And I agree, i think its stupid all game cosoles are dvd players and cd players, what happened to good old games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted May 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 6, 2004 The tri force system is for arcades isnt it? not a console. But yeah it would be nice to have namco/sega as exclusive partners, they could deftinetly give MS and Sony a run for their money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 The tri force system is for arcades isnt it? not a console. But yeah it would be nice to have namco/sega as exclusive partners, they could deftinetly give MS and Sony a run for their money Yeah it was the hardware behind F-Zero AX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing-Man Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 (edited) They need Rare Studios back, they were the key to SNES and N64: Donkey Kong Country, Killer Instinct, Goldeneye, etc. Also if they made a Zelda game with the original screenshots they had before Wind Waker, I think that could revitalize the GameCube. Also they need to get off making sequels and make something fresh with a main character that everyone will like. Edited May 9, 2004 by jmole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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