MrStaticVoid Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Wow...this is significantly faster. I decided to upgrade after the recent threads about Reiser4 on forums.gentoo.org: Howto Create a Reiser4 Partition Reiser4 enabled gentoo livecd - release notes I encourage you to try reiser4 I read that the format on the hard drive is finished, so even when it is finally released, there will be no difference between the format on my hard drive and someone else's who used the final code. That made me want to try it. It was really easy to upgrade too. I just got the kernel patch (I just used the "speedy sources" which included the Reiser4 patch), downloaded the Reiser4 LiveCD and backed up my data onto a spare hard drive (cp -a /mnt/gentoo/* /mnt/backup/.). I reformated my root partition and recopied the code to the new Reiser4 root (cp -a /mnt/backup/* /mnt/gentoo/.). I am surprised at how fast it is. It is also very stable. So, just as one of the threads I linked to above says, I, too, encourage you all to try Reiser4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 (edited) Benches (Though they may be a little biased, coming from Namesys... its like MIcrosoft saying "Yes, windows is better!" its kinda like, um, what else would they say? :) ) http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks.html edit: Yes, I am in the process of converting some of my partitions to Reiser4.... not all of them, mind, because I doubt RFStool (reading reiser from windows) will like the new format :( and I need to switch Hard Disks inbetween machines... Edited April 27, 2004 by LordHatrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I am going to try this very soon. I need a backup drive first :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I am going to try this very soon. I need a backup drive first :) pshhh... ye of little faith :) :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 pshhh... ye of little faith :) :p I don't feel like risking my stage 1 gentoo install :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I don't feel like risking my stage 1 gentoo install :p Imagine if you did loose it... We might see you back on the boards in a few weeks after its done compiling :laugh: ;) j/k, of course, but barely.... destcc rullzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Imagine if you did loose it...We might see you back on the boards in a few weeks after its done compiling :laugh: ;) j/k, of course, but barely.... destcc rullzzz naw it only took 2 days to get absolutely everything that I needed installed. I would do it like I did this current install. It takes 30 minutes to install slackware, so I would do that and have a working install and then while running slack I would install gentoo in its own seperate place on the same partition as slackware then once I get to a runnable gentoo with x and gnome I would boot with a live cd and copy the gentoo over the slackware and then setup grub to load gentoo and I would have a gentoo install with only about 40 minutes of not being able to use the net(30 minutes slack install, 10 minutes moving gentoo over slack) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 naw it only took 2 days to get absolutely everything that I needed installed. I would do it like I did this current install. It takes 30 minutes to install slackware, so I would do that and have a working install and then while running slack I would install gentoo in its own seperate place on the same partition as slackware then once I get to a runnable gentoo with x and gnome I would boot with a live cd and copy the gentoo over the slackware and then setup grub to load gentoo and I would have a gentoo install with only about 40 minutes of not being able to use the net(30 minutes slack install, 10 minutes moving gentoo over slack) I did something a little different - Used Knoppix STD to get a working (temporary) OS, and then I pretty much did linux from scratch onto my HD. :) Takes a while to accumulate all the apps/libaries/etc... but I think I've mostly gotten them all now :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-Cloud Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Hmm interesting - I'm kind of interested in trying this out as well :D However, I'm still in the process of rebuilding my world with gcc 3.4. I hope that gives as much of a speed increase as it's supposed to ;) Also, I only have one hard drive. Because I used the old gentoo install guide, I only have a /, /boot, and swap partition. I was thinking about burning my documents to cd, and then resizing my / (which is reiserfs 3), backing up the system onto a seperate partition, making / reiser4, copying the backedup stuff back onto /, deleting the backup partition, and then resizing reiser4 to fill the whole hard drive. Would this work? Thanks =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I am looking for a way to resize reiser. I am going to try the same thing if I can find a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Imagine if you did loose it...We might see you back on the boards in a few weeks after its done compiling :laugh: ;) j/k, of course, but barely.... destcc rullzzz lol...i was thinking the same thing :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-Cloud Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I am looking for a way to resize reiser. I am going to try the same thing if I can find a way. You can use 'resize_reiserfs' which resizes reiser3. I have no idea if there is an equivalent for reiser4 though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 You can use 'resize_reiserfs' which resizes reiser3. I have no idea if there is an equivalent for reiser4 though :) thanks that should work :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStaticVoid Posted April 28, 2004 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 There is a resizefs.reiser4 program includede with reiser4progs. I don't know how well it works though. I am fortunate enough to have a spare hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 There is a resizefs.reiser4 program includede with reiser4progs. I don't know how well it works though. I am fortunate enough to have a spare hard drive. Well I gave up on resizing. I just deleted windows. I don't use it anymore :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-Cloud Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 There is a resizefs.reiser4 program includede with reiser4progs. I don't know how well it works though. I am fortunate enough to have a spare hard drive. Awesome, thanks :) I'm going to post a bit on the Gentoo forums and see if anyone's had any luck with doing this w/ one hard drive. If I find anything out, I'll let you guys know =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichotin Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 any way to convert reiserfs to 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStaticVoid Posted April 28, 2004 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 At the moment there is no easy tool to convert from Reiserfs to Reiser4. There most likely will not be one in the future either. They are 2 completely different filesystems. If you wanted to convert, the easiest way would be to backup data from one partition to another, format, then restore the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 damn. It is far to unstable for me. I don't know if its my kernel or something else, but I can't run firefox without it stalling or even emerge sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHatrus Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 damn. It is far to unstable for me. I don't know if its my kernel or something else, but I can't run firefox without it stalling or even emerge sync. PShh. Use the linux kernel snapshots. Now THATS unstable :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezza Veteran Posted April 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2004 Well eventually I want to move to reiser4, but for the moment I ain't gonna touch that biatch with a big fat 10 foot pole :p I have nothing but respect for Hans, but I have heard some bad stories from my friends who've used it for a root filesystem... Not crashes, but some nasty rebulding of the filesystem tree. I suppose it says something positive when even the worst screwups just need a filesystem tree rebuild, but even so I'm gonna leave it till it hits gentoo stable :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStaticVoid Posted April 29, 2004 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 but for the moment I ain't gonna touch that biatch with a big fat 10 foot pole :p meh...your loss. but even so I'm gonna leave it till it hits gentoo stable ...and this coming from the guy with "gentoo linux :: 2.6 kernel :: cfq scheduler :: nptl" in his sig. I can see you like performance. I predict you'll switch sooner than when it makes it to Gentoo Stable. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezza Veteran Posted April 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2004 meh...your loss....and this coming from the guy with "gentoo linux :: 2.6 kernel :: cfq scheduler :: nptl" in his sig. I can see you like performance. I predict you'll switch sooner than when it makes it to Gentoo Stable. :p Haha OK, you got me... I probably will end up using it before it hits stable, but not till some of the horror stories I'm getting disappear at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 gentoo::kernel 2.6.6-rc2-love2::udev::~x86::no reiser4 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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