aristotle-dude Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I would like to see them bring back the resize and drag windows as an outline which they had in OS 9 as timdorr mentioned as an option. They should also allow you to disable the shadows also in the Appearance prefs pane. It's funny that you can edit a window with Interface builder to turn off shadows. It is one of the attributes of each window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvo Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I'd suggest using Firefox or the full client Mozilla on a mac instead of Safari. When I am at my client's office all they use are Macs as they do graphic arts work and all they use is Firefox, great app in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malechai Veteran Posted May 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 3, 2004 there's an option in cocktail that allows to change the window resizing speed. i can't really feel the difference tho!? set it to very slow just for ****s and giggles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I would like to see them bring back the resize and drag windows as an outline which they had in OS 9 as timdorr mentioned as an option. They should also allow you to disable the shadows also in the Appearance prefs pane. It's funny that you can edit a window with Interface builder to turn off shadows. It is one of the attributes of each window. There are many apps out there that just change the prefs file to no shadows. I personally use Windowshade X and just reduce them by about half. The window resize as an outline would be great. I have a terminal command that I use after a fresh format that fixes the problem and it is no slower than windows on my end, so I can't really remember what they were like when they were slow, but it seems some people still report them as so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsnyy Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 there's an option in cocktail that allows to change the window resizing speed. i can't really feel the difference tho!? it works! but only on any window not using the brushed metal textures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle-dude Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 There are many apps out there that just change the prefs file to no shadows. I personally use Windowshade X and just reduce them by about half.The window resize as an outline would be great. I have a terminal command that I use after a fresh format that fixes the problem and it is no slower than windows on my end, so I can't really remember what they were like when they were slow, but it seems some people still report them as so. And what would that terminal command be? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsnyy Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 edit... nevermind read it wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frod Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 some things seem sluggish in os x. window resizing and scrolling being the top of the list. it was my understanding that window resizing is so slow because it has to keep redrawing the opengl texture that it is sending to your graphics card to render via quartz extreme. scrolling is probably something similar. anyways, besides those two things really, i don't notice anything being slower/less snappier than my 1.73ghz athlon windows box, and i'm running a 1ghz powerbook. and i agree that although some things in the gui might be sluggish, my productivity is greatly increased when using os x. i get things done faster even after the "lag". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 This is the standard window animation speed in OS X defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSWindowResizeTime 0.2 You can drop that to make it faster, i.e... defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSWindowResizeTime 0.1 And if you want to mess around with it and make it tremendously slow like Spyder suggested... defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSWindowResizeTime 5.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac15 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I've found that the reason OS X feel sluggish is the dock, mainly the bouncing icons make everything appear slower. Hide the dock and launch an app from your apps folder. It feels exactly like it does on the PC. The notification method the dock uses is off putting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Personally, I'd just like them to drop PDF-based drawing for 11.x. It's got some design advantages, but is horrifically slow. Maintaining that layer is just too much overhead for the system.What would also be interested would be multi-threaded rendering in Safari. Basically, you could scroll the window in one thread and it would render the page in the window in another thread. That would improve responsiveness to the scrolls, giving an improved perception of speed. What would also help out a LOT would be the "outline" effect that certain windows do on resize. Rather than laying out the window during a resize, it simply shows an outline of the final window. This is a lot faster than doing the layout while moving and maintains a better responsiveness of the GUI. Tim, it's not PDF, it's postscript. Same difference though. I don't see that none-postscript would be any faster. What does need to happen is apple to start moving things like shadows, transparency etc to graphics card. Currently each window is a polygon on OpenGL, and then the window gets 'textured' by the software renderer (read: very slow) and then placed on the window. The polygon stuff is insanely fast, and that is the postscript bit. The other really, really slow bit is the software renderer. The more they can put on the graphics card the better as that will really speed it all up. In conclsion: the openGL assisted stuff (the PDF-based drawing as you refer to it) is very fast. Dropping that would be stupid. What needs to change is the actually windowing rendering. This needs to be opengl-ized. I agree however on the outline stuff. That could be done entirely in opengl and have all kinds of cool hardware effects on it to reduce the ugliness of it. But, apple, start moving window rendering to the card and its gonna be a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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