SabaTime Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 1) What would you prefer for a browser, Safari or IE? because I only want to keep one 2) Is there and yfiles i Have towrr yabout cleaning out like for windows after using a browser? like history, temp folder etc. 3) Is wirless internet actually as fast as they say it is? 4) When I receieve my iBook will something popup to inform me about updates or do I have to maunally go onto apple.com? sorry for the questions, just trying to get prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetman Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 1)safari is good but keep IE as well, just yesterday a page wouldnt load right in safari and IE rendered it just fine 2)don't know , Im relativly new as well 3)No, theoretical is 54mbps actual speeds are something like 30-40 IIRC 4)there is software update right in the main apple menu, you can of course schedule updatees how you want or set it to non automatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 In line: 1) What would you prefer for a browser, Safari or IE? because I only want to keep one IE. Even on the Mac it's good. 2) Is there and yfiles i Have towrr yabout cleaning out like for windows after using a browser? like history, temp folder etc. Set your history period to a day or two and your total cache size to about 10-20MB. You'll be fine. 3) Is wirless internet actually as fast as they say it is? For web browsing, yes, absolutely. 4) When I receieve my iBook will something popup to inform me about updates or do I have to maunally go onto apple.com? That I do not know, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbalsh Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 1) I use Safari, I find it the best although a lot of people on here prefer Firebird, I'd say test them both out then pick one :D 2) Yeah there are temporary files on the Mac, in Safari you can simple choose either 'Empty Cache' to clear the cache or 'Reset Safari' and that'll clear any passwords, cookies etc... you can also clear your history *READ clear any history of porn* from the History menu ;) 3) Do you mean wireless as in Airport/Airport Extreme? if so then yes it's fast :) you should see no slowdown unless your transferring multi-gigabyte files 4) Usually 'Software Update' runs when you start your Mac for the first time. You can also run it manually from the Apple Menu (I think it runs once a week on it's own by default) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krmathis Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 1. I prefer Mozilla Firefox, but a lot of people prefer Safari or Opera! 2. & 3. Already answered. 4. Updates are an option the first time you boot your computer. Then afterwards you set the options like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 In line:1) What would you prefer for a browser, Safari or IE? because I only want to keep one IE. Even on the Mac it's good. I disagree. Not only does is it no longer in development, but it's speed and standards compliance falls way behind the alternatives now. in 2000 it was great, but it's been left to rot. I'm not sure why the OP cares what I want in a browser: isn't it more important what he wants? I like Safari just fine, and Firefox is great for web development and I keep it around just incase webkit start to choke on pages (hasn't yet but it might). Omniweb 5 looks promising but I'm not a fan of beta software. As for software update: it's set to run once when you first install to inform you of updates to Apple software (keynote, xcode, os x, ilife, etc). If you click on the 'apple' menu and choose the second option 'software update' it will let you know. After that it's set to run once per week (usually when you log in) and it will let you know if there are any new updates - you can install from within the software update program. You're still responsible for patching non-apple software yourself - office, photoshop, dreamweaver, etc patches will not show up in software update. versiontracker is a good place to keep on top of that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabaTime Posted May 13, 2004 Author Share Posted May 13, 2004 wow thanks alot guys for the quick feedback. The only thing I will be using my wireless internet is basically chatting and myabe some downloads here and there thats basically it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker999 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 mac IE is very bugger :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 In line:1) What would you prefer for a browser, Safari or IE? because I only want to keep one IE. Even on the Mac it's good. 2) Is there and yfiles i Have towrr yabout cleaning out like for windows after using a browser? like history, temp folder etc. Set your history period to a day or two and your total cache size to about 10-20MB. You'll be fine. 3) Is wirless internet actually as fast as they say it is? For web browsing, yes, absolutely. 4) When I receieve my iBook will something popup to inform me about updates or do I have to maunally go onto apple.com? That I do not know, sorry. do you even own a mac or use one on a daily basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'm sure he doesn't lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'm sure he doesn't lol it sure looks that way. so now my question is, why is he giving his opinions on osx? i could understand the wireless net question, but asking a windows user about something in osx is like asking a woman what a penis feels like (or asking a man what a vagina/period/pregnancy/labor feels like). so to correct the fallacies in doug's post: 1. mac ie is no longer in development and, to be quite blunt, it sucks. keep them both in case you run into a website that doesn't load right. you aren't going to save enough space or anything like that for it to make a difference. use safari as the default, and go into the apps folder if you need ie. 2. you can disable safari's cache (i recommend it, safari's caching is a mystery to... everyone) with an app from macupdate: http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/10482 3. this is true, noone yet offers internet access faster than what wireless enables... the lowest speed for wireless is 11mbps, the fastest isp i have seen so far only offers 4mbps. 4. when you get your mac, it will run software update automatically every week (or is it month?). refer to solaris' post for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I know Doug has used OS X before, and is now using a bit more frequently it seems. Who cares what browser a person prefers anyway? IE, in terms of real world compatibility is probably better than Safari. IE in terms of ideal/what W3C wants compatibility is lacking behind by 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Maybe I missread but I'm getting the idea that you think wireless internet 802.11g is only fast enough for chatting and surfing. Do you know how fast 54Mbps is? I know of no internet companies that can surpass that speed and quite a few computer's hard drives aren't even that fast with disk transfers. Wireless internet will be fast enough for anything an RJ45 is fast enough for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTrang Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I know Doug has used OS X before, and is now using a bit more frequently it seems. Who cares what browser a person prefers anyway? IE, in terms of real world compatibility is probably better than Safari. IE in terms of ideal/what W3C wants compatibility is lacking behind by 4 years. From someone who has been on both sides of "the fence," (I use a PC at home and Macs at school), I think I can pretty accurately answer the question of web browsers for Macs (obviously this is my opinion, but I believe that it has some pretty basic facts that most people will agree on). First, IE Mac isn't like IE 6 for Windows. It is not the "gold standard" browser that will render every page perfectly. That would be IE for Windows (and when I way "perfectly," I mean that any decent web programmer will make their page so that it appears correctly on IE for Windows). IE for Mac definitely screws up some web pages, especially those with javascript, and, from my experience, doesn't really give a significantly enhanced web browsing experience over alternative browsers (on Windows, I believe that IE does, but definitely not on Macs). Also, as has been said, IE for Mac is no longer being updated, and I have had it crash a few times while using it, an experience I have not had with Safari. That said, IE for Mac will still render some pages that Safari will not, so I strongly recommend keeping both. Use Safari for normal browsing, and boot up IE when you find a page that isn't acting correctly. Actually, if I owned a Mac at home, I'd use Firefox instead of Safari, but if you are only going to use those two options, I would keep both, but set Safari as my standard browser (you don't even need to keep IE in you dock; just have it accessible in case you need it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) safari does most pages fine. mostly if safari can't render the page properly the mac version of ie can't too. and i love the safari bookmarks management - really nice and easy. :) Edited May 14, 2004 by Phillip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted May 14, 2004 Supervisor Share Posted May 14, 2004 Funny, I've had to deal with more pages which wouldn't work in Mac IE than I've had to deal with pages that wouldn't work in Safari. I've heard that Camino (also from the Moz Foundation) is a much more refined browser on the Mac platform. Reasonably so, it is Mac specific, though FireFox is starting to gain a foothold in the realm of OSX. I'd have to say steer clear of IE for Mac, and go with either Safari, FireFox, or Camino. Those browsers are in active development (i.e. patches/bugfixes every so often), and they have so many more features than Mac IE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I had to use IE on a Mac at school the other day, and the tabbing through forms didn't work, and enter reloaded some of the pages instead of defaulting to the first button. It was driving me :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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