2009 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i read this http://www.atsnn.com/nickbergenglish.html?story=51616 . it made sense to me know because what would be a better propaganda then to have our own citizen killed and give the terroists credits? anyways, not sure its true, but it would be a damn good theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaRSightxc2 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Yeah, I have heard this theory too. It would certainly be the best proppaganda tool to get average americans back onside. However, have you seen the video? I have. It looks extremely realistic, if its a fake. And its not just a swift chop. They are hacking and slicing away at the poor sod for a while. IMO, the vid is real, although I am open to the idea of CIA involvement if it can be proven that the film is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted May 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 19, 2004 the question isnt if its fake is it? dont people just think that cia did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplatinum Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 (edited) 7) [WARNING: Reader"s discretion advised]A human head contains 1.5 gallons of blood yet the freshly decapitated head shown in the video is leaking none.? Neck artery would squirt a foot long geyser of blood.? There is no evidence of that either.? Only one answer lends itself here: the video was doctored.? Either a portion was clipped out or the beheading never took place as shown, with the possibility of the victim being already dead. The five so call terrorists are phoney. The one on the extreme right in Photo 6 is pudgy and is wearing very clean tennis shoes. This will not be the case with an Al queda fighter. Also, Photo 6 shows that at least three of them are wearing bullet proof vests. Has anyone seen Al queda members wearing heavy and cumbersome bullet proof vests? 4. The most telling evidence that the video of the decapitation of Nicholas Berg was taken inside the Abu Ghraib prison can only be detected by performing a frame by frame analysis. La Voz de Aztlan did just that and some revealing frames came up that are difficult to see if the video is played on normal speTowards the end of the video, at frames 9306 through 9368, a person with a US military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video. His neck, left ear and part of his cap and visor can be seen. We have prepared an animated gif with just the relevant frames that clearly shows this at Animated Photo 7. Look at the right hand side as someone with a military cap, possibly with a second video camera, pokes his head into the video. Compare this animated gif with the MP whose cap is circled on Photo 4. Do not post this material please. - Keldyn M. Edited May 28, 2004 by Keldyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElite Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickFinlay2 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 never would have thought of that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGVL Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Most Likely, yes, it was done by the CIA. :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dismuter Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 This is pathetic... you think the government would stupid enough to make that kind of mistake? Grow up people! When a video like this goes to the media, it's not some half-known site which can discover that kind of stuff... CNN or BBC News would have found it ages ago, because they most certainly do a very in depth analysis of videos they receive, especially the audio part, so that they can try to recognize who is speaking, and get a scoop on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grem0rlin Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 This is pathetic... you think the government would stupid enough to make that kind of mistake? Grow up people! When a video like this goes to the media, it's not some half-known site which can discover that kind of stuff... CNN or BBC News would have found it ages ago, because they most certainly do a very in depth analysis of videos they receive, especially the audio part, so that they can try to recognize who is speaking, and get a scoop on that. Mistake? It's probably the greatest piece of marketing in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dismuter Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 How would an american voice in that video be a piece of marketing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiglet Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 apparantly the guy was killed just before the beheading. it explains why the camera zooms in stupidly just when they're cutting his head off (gives them chance to cut the video). it also explains why a few of the times on the video are out of sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplatinum Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 apparantly the guy was killed just before the beheading. it explains why the camera zooms in stupidly just when they're cutting his head off (gives them chance to cut the video).it also explains why a few of the times on the video are out of sequence. And I suppose that also explains that there's no blood geyser whatsoever ? Even if the guy would have been dead 5minutes ago... blood would still be coming out ! I also wouldn't see the point in Al-Qaeda killing the dude BEFORE beheading him. How would that make sense coming from Al-Qaeda. I don't think they give a **** if he's dead before or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiglet Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 well, he was apparantly dead before the beheading (read it somewhere). so that would prevent any major gushage! would be more in-keeping with the cia theory, if they just gave him a leathal injection first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplatinum Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 would be more in-keeping with the cia theory, if they just gave him a leathal injection first. Oh yeah, that would definately look like Al-Qaeda... that's the point ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalFreedom Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 ture, very true plus the fact the guys acctuallys dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiglet Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Oh yeah, that would definately look like Al-Qaeda... that's the point ! dont get what you're trying to say. it evidently wasnt convincing enough otherwise there wouldnt be all there conspiracy theories flying around. anyway, these are my ideas they're from a thread on General [M]ayhem i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altermind Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 do you realy think the united states had sunk that low... imagine if it came out... the risk alone is not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey1001 Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 This is pathetic... you think the government would stupid enough to make that kind of mistake? Grow up people! When a video like this goes to the media, it's not some half-known site which can discover that kind of stuff... CNN or BBC News would have found it ages ago, because they most certainly do a very in depth analysis of videos they receive, especially the audio part, so that they can try to recognize who is speaking, and get a scoop on that. Well, not really. Just recently the newspapers and television stations in the UK published as FACT the so called British Abuse pictures of Iraqi's, only to find out a couple weeks later that they were all fake...the head of one of the paper's over there resigned too because of that I believe. So, they don't check everything in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiglet Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 for a start its not the first time this sort of thing has happened > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html plus not all of the govt with be in on it. thats just my opinion anyway. each to our own. edit - general mayhem thread > http://genmay.com/showthread.php?t=354134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurb Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Meh, I don't think the CIA would have messed up that much with out noticing there mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 I wouldnt put it past the CIA to do it.. They've done alot worse. But the fact that everyone believed it for a few days at least was enough. Got the worlds attention off torturing the prisoners. Yeah, i'm sure it's hard to fool the world without slipping up at least once... have to give em credit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarsten Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 there is a pool of blood near his body, if you ever seen documentary's on Africa you'll see that when they behead a cow that is alive the way the cut it prevents the gushing of the blood .. it just pools around the body ... i'm not familar with the Muslum culture but isn't the process of Hal-al similar in beheading animals .. so they would have practice at beheading ....anyways while everyone keeps arguing whether or not its real .. this poor guy was killed ... thought i'd just say R.I.P. ...you may agree with the war being the right thing to do or not the right thing do to , but either way killing a person like that is just horrific and wrong. Personally I think he was alive .. the guy was Jewish and he was captured by Al-quedia or Ha-Mas .. two groups which hate Jews with a passion so I would expect its real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42n81 Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 well, he was apparantly dead before the beheading (read it somewhere). so that would prevent any major gushage! I haven't seen the full video, but in that animated gif there, there seems to be a fair amount of blood pouring out. If it's a main vein the blood won't squirt, only if it's a medium to small artery. I'd like to know how anyone can tell it's an American ear and cap poking into the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naap51stang Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Boy.......the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society (K.O.O.K.S) have really come out of the woodwork haven't they? Quit drinking your purple Kool-Aid.......... Sounds like a bunch of aluminum foil wearing people running around to keep the secret government spy rays out of their heads....... :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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