fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 A guy on another forum I was browsing had some fake system specs in his sig. On of the items was 16 PB RAM (1 PB=1GB Square) like that. Another guy then came along and said: "Hey. Just reading through your system specs in your sig. I notice that 1 PB = 1 GIG square. Well - isn't that just the same as 1 gig then because, if I remember rightly, the square of 1 is 1." After some confusion which other people attempting their explanations, I posted this: If you square a number, you multiply it by itself, i.e.: 1 x 1 = 1 2 x 2 = 4 3 x 3 = 9 You cant say 1gb squared = 1gb just because 1 x 1 = 1. Instead you must convert the gigabytes to megabytes. 1gb = 1024mb 1024 squared = 1024x1024 which equals 1048576. That is the answer in MEGABYTES, so you must then convert the answer back into GB by dividing by 1024. The actual answer therefore is 1024gb, not 1. Ok so I worked that out LOGICALLY, but mathematically, is this correct?? How much RAM would you have if you had 1gb squared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 (edited) UT2004, right? Instead of squaring the megabytes in a gigabyte, convert it to bytes and square it. Once that number is converted back to gigabytes the you get 1048576GB. So no, it's not mathematically correct. :pinch: Edited June 4, 2004 by elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Im confused now too :unsure: We need some binary mathematicians... I think we're confused between binary and decimal.... 1Gb is really 1.024Gb =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 UT2004, right? yep, atari forums ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaRaKa Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 thats if you convert to megabites if you convert it to bits then its a hell og alot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam.sproul Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 if I remember rightly, the square of 1 is 1 Do you mean square root ??? Square root of 1 times the square root of 1 = 1 ?? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 lol they also had that argument about the wording :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 (edited) 1 GB = 1073741824 bytes 1073741824 bytes squared = 1152921504606846976 bytes 1152921504606846976 bytes = 1125899906842624 KB 1125899906842624 KB = 1099511627776 MB 1099511627776MB = 1073741824 GB 1073741824 GB = 1048576 TB 1048576 TB = 1024 PB 1024 PB = 1 EB I just confused myself. I did the math wrong but I put a bunch of numbers down!!!! yey Edited June 4, 2004 by amoeba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 well the square AND the square root of 1 is 1 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redFX Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 1 GB squared is actually 8 Exabytes. You can't do megs * megs then convert to GB. You need to bring it down to the lowest form. They are purely bits, not megs or gigabytes. GB, MB, KB, B, they all represent a certain amount of bits. 1 GB = 8589934592 bits 8589934592 * 8589934592 = 73786976294838206464 bits 73786976294838206464 bits = 8589934592 GB or 8388608 Terabyte or 8192 Pedabytes or 8 Exabytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 thats if you convert to megabites if you convert it to bits then its a hell og alot more it should still add up to the same amount of gigabytes in the end, as long as you convert the bits to gigabytes correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 heres where you made a mistake. 1 gb squared= 1x1 GBxGB. it comes down to the same thing basically, but you get it squared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 What's even more confusing is that 1 GB^2 isn't 1 PB :? 10^6 GB = 1 PB. 1 GB^2 is 1 EB. Now of course this is just comparing bytes to bytes metric wise instead of follow binary. The SI Prefixes simply denote the magnitude of the number, it's just easier to say that adding a *10^x number to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 1 GB squared is actually 8 Exabytes.You can't do megs * megs then convert to GB. You need to bring it down to the lowest form. They are purely bits, not megs or gigabytes. GB, MB, KB, B, they all represent a certain amount of bits. 1 GB = 8589934592 bits 8589934592 * 8589934592 = 73786976294838206464 bits 73786976294838206464 bits = 8589934592 GB or 8388608 Terabyte or 8192 Pedabytes or 8 Exabytes that makes sense, thats where I went wrong, didnt use the lowest form :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redFX Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 1 GB = 1073741824 bytes1073741824 bytes squared = 1152921504606846976 bytes 1152921504606846976 bytes = 1125899906842624 KB 1125899906842624 KB = 1099511627776 MB 1099511627776MB = 1073741824 GB 1073741824 GB = 1048576 TB 1048576 TB = 1024 PB 1024 PB = 1 ZB I just confused myself. I did the math wrong but I put a bunch of numbers down!!!! yey You got it all wrong. Here is how it works: One kilobyte equals 2 to the 10th power, or 1,024 bytes. One megabyte equals 2 to the 20th power, or 1,048,576 bytes. One gigabyte equals 2 to the 30th power, or 1,073,741,824 bytes. One terabyte equals 2 to the 40th power, or 1,099511,627,776 bytes. One petabyte equals 2 to the 50th power, or 1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes. One exabyte equals 2 to the 60th power, or 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 bytes. One zettabyte equals 2 to the 70th power, or 1,180,591,620,717,411,303,424 bytes. One yottabyte equals 2 to the 80th power, or 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 bytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 1 GB squared is actually 8 Exabytes.You can't do megs * megs then convert to GB. You need to bring it down to the lowest form. They are purely bits, not megs or gigabytes. GB, MB, KB, B, they all represent a certain amount of bits. 1 GB = 8589934592 bits 8589934592 * 8589934592 = 73786976294838206464 bits 73786976294838206464 bits = 8589934592 GB or 8388608 Terabyte or 8192 Pedabytes or 8 Exabytes I got the same thing as you. You got it all wrong.Here is how it works: One kilobyte equals 2 to the 10th power, or 1,024 bytes. One megabyte equals 2 to the 20th power, or 1,048,576 bytes. One gigabyte equals 2 to the 30th power, or 1,073,741,824 bytes. One terabyte equals 2 to the 40th power, or 1,099511,627,776 bytes. One petabyte equals 2 to the 50th power, or 1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes. One exabyte equals 2 to the 60th power, or 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 bytes. One zettabyte equals 2 to the 70th power, or 1,180,591,620,717,411,303,424 bytes. One yottabyte equals 2 to the 80th power, or 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 bytes. Sorry, transposed a line. But saying I got it all wrong? That's harsh! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoeba Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 So is it 1 EB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 ,Jun 4 2004, 08:30] Im confused now too :unsure:We need some binary mathematicians... I think we're confused between binary and decimal.... 1Gb is really 1.024Gb =/ No... 1 GB is 1 GB 1 GB = 1024 MB 1.024 GB would be 1048.576 MB (1.024 x 1024 = 1048.576) binary doesn't come in to this Do you mean square root ??? Square root of 1 times the square root of 1 = 1 ?? :huh: 1 = 1 sqrt(1) = 1 1^2 = 1 1 x 1 = 1 notice a pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 1^2 = 11 x 1 = 1 Arent those 2 the exact same thing, only written differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 that was my point, fuel anyway... google calculator: 16 petabytes = 16 777 216 gigabytes 16 777 216 gigabytes = 1.7592186 ? 10^13 kilobytes Square root of 1.7592186 ? 10^13 kilobytes = 4 194 303.99 kilobytes 4194303.99 kilobytes = 3.99999999 gigabytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 that was my point, fuel No I think you misunderstood me. The other 2 are different equations, but give the same answer - fair enough. The 2 I quoted though not only give the same answer but are also the same equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwBen Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 I got the answer.. I think.. is it purple? :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Google saves all!! 1 petabyte = 1 048 576 gigabytes Linky :) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel925 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Google saves all!!1 petabyte = 1 048 576 gigabytes Linky :) Tom but that wasnt the question lol. the question is what is 1gb squared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 (edited) a doggabyte is actually the highest binary storage (1024 nonnabytes) there is also the base10 binary system: kibibytes, mebibytes, gibibytes, tebibytes... Edited June 4, 2004 by [jon] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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