MxxCon Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 i'd like to know wtf moderators are doing? i think admins should really review their moderating team and the fact that moderators aren't doing anything about FLOOD of crap that have been appearing on neowin. do you really think these threads belong on neowin? "cat ate its own baby gross!" "Personality Disorder Test" "measure the psi of a stream of urine?" "Damn Wind Chimes!" "Socks from HELL!, They are all after ME!" "I've Got Two Job Interviews" "i'm taking my driving exam tomorrow.." "Holy Cow!" "Should I get this tattooed on my shoulder?" "Question about farting" "Tornado warning" "what the hell is this" that's from 1st 2 pages alone i'm sure there are 100s more and that's not counting mile long "welcome" threads, post count celebration, "games" threads, and recent gmail flood. i'm not even going to bother with polls forum. 75% of polls are absolutly pointless and surve no purpose whatsoever other than whoever made them is an attention ######. do you really think that **** belongs on computer/tech discussion board? people seem to use neowin and their personal blogs and garbage bins AND MODERATORS DO NOTHING ABOUT IT! are you afraid of being called "nazi" just becuase you close/delete a few retarded threads? you'd rather put up with that grade-school trash than lay down the law and make neowin worth reading? i did address this issue with moderators in private but obviously nothing was done about it, so i'm posting here to encourage better action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumdefect Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Yes but it doesn't really matter, people enjoy reading funny threads, I'm sure there are still threads which interest you, so why speculate on the ones which do not. If people wish to talk about such things then let them unless the moderaters think otherwise. If the moderators are fine with it why do you have a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 As they tell you on other sites, if you don't like it you are free to leave and post elsewhere. Compared to some other sites, I think these forums rock. I have no wish to upset the apple cart. Besides, on other sites if you complain to the moderators, they just ban you and tell you to get lost. They don't seem to do that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I agree and disagree with you MxxCon, I believe that they amount of welcome threads, Gmail and x000 posts are out of control and action needs to be taken, but most of the threads you have named, either originate or get moved to the "Members Metropolis" and if their in their you can chose not to read them. I for one agree with the admins on this one "We understand that Topics like the ones in Real World Issues forum may not represent Neowin and is also not a forum we want people signing up on Neowin just to take part in. We also understand that members might want to have a rant about a service, bad experience or just share his bad day without being told "here is not the place for that" Neowin has tried to cater for this through these forums." https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=64177 If you don?t like these posts don?t read them and don?t get involved. I think that neowin yes is a tec forum but its nice that people feel they can come here and shares their woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 I appreciate you, really, you are an intelligent man and I like your attitude, BUT: 1.- You need to go through the fact that this is not a tech exclusive board, at least not anymore (since 2 years ago in fact) 2.- It is extremely easy to avoid the general area To be honest, I dont like some of those threads either, but I love Neowin?s diversity, almost everyone can find a thread that fits their needs, not only technical. I feel sorry you feel this way towards neowin, but this is reality man, this is not a tech exclusive forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 ^ after hearing a mods such your calaber saying this i think it calls for a poll. Should Neowin become a Tech exclusive forum only? My votes yes, after reading what said dark had to say maybe its for the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Banzai, that's why i said nothing about, what i consider that other garbage bin, "Members Metropolis, Sub forums: Area 51 | Real World Issues | The Soapbox". the only time i go to that dump is when some threads get moved there. so according to your logic, i don't see any point for "general discussion" forum then, since Members Metropolis is exactly same collection of crap. to me that forum is "(computers) general discussion", for...duh..general discussion about computers. not for JohnsonBox post latest news from china or people ask how to measure psi of their pee steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malechai Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 1. Neowin is no longer a computer only forum. It hasn't been for a long time. Deal with it. 2. Threads can be ignored. Try it. 3. The threads mentioned do not break any forum rules. If you don't like it, see point 2. As one of the mods of General Discussion, let me clear it up for you now - the forum is about nothing specific. Its General Discussion. Its not about computers. Ignore the forum if you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Would it help if you could select the forums you wanted to include in the "View New Posts" function? You could exclude the ones you don't like from that? Perhaps extend that functionality to searches as well? Moderators - is adding such a function to exclude forums from the "View New Posts" function a possibility? If so, it may basically solve the whole problem for some. Thanks, BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 Banzai, that's why i said nothing about, what i consider that other garbage bin, "Members Metropolis, Sub forums: Area 51 | Real World Issues | The Soapbox".the only time i go to that dump is when some threads get moved there. so according to your logic, i don't see any point for "general discussion" forum then, since Members Metropolis is exactly same collection of crap. to me that forum is "(computers) general discussion", for...duh..general discussion about computers. not for JohnsonBox post latest news from china or people ask how to measure psi of their pee steam I somewhat agree and disagree. The point of having a general discussion and a member metropolis is the age, we have a lot of minors here so the member metropolis are targeted to a more matured member mass. Again, as I said, I dont agree with some threads, but man, I must respect them so they are different. Banzai, I think neowin its awesome the way is it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 just becuase a thread doesn't break any rules, it shouldn't mean "anything goes". there should be at least some discrimination at what's appropriate. just ignoring threads isn't a good mentality to live by. then good people will begin to skip more and more threads untill it'll(if not already has) come to the point where it's not worth the effort to come to neowin if you'll be skipping 99% of threads. you'll sink to the lowest common denominator. morons will try to compete for the most ridiculous thread...and you'll do nothing about it becuase they do not break any rules. Bearded Kirklander, i don't use "View New Posts" function becuase i'll have to sort thru way too much garbage. it's faster/simpter/better for me to go directly to forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malechai Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 Like it or not, you're not a moderator here and this is how it is. If you dont like it, ignore it. Thats the best I can advise. Do with it as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clonk Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I agree with you MxxCon, I do think that there is alot of useless stuff that gets posted on Neowin, and I'd say the majority of the reason being the age of alot of the members here. Lately I've been seeing alot of birthdays in '87, '88, '89 and even '90 and above. While I have nothing against younger members, often times I find them to be the origin of such 'crap.' Its an 'unfortunate' side effect of the site becoming more popular. But at the same time it also can encourage new members to join. So I'm willing to live with it. As long as people can get the help they need when they need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 It's not a tech only site. Get used to it. It's like..."I hate chinese food, so I'm gonna ....eat an eggroll" You only punish yourself by reading those threads. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceminess Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 i'd like to know wtf moderators are doing?i think admins should really review their moderating team and the fact that moderators aren't doing anything about FLOOD of crap that have been appearing on neowin. do you really think these threads belong on neowin? "cat ate its own baby gross!" "Personality Disorder Test" "measure the psi of a stream of urine?" "Damn Wind Chimes!" "Socks from HELL!, They are all after ME!" "I've Got Two Job Interviews" "i'm taking my driving exam tomorrow.." "Holy Cow!" "Should I get this tattooed on my shoulder?" "Question about farting" "Tornado warning" "what the hell is this" that's from 1st 2 pages alone i'm sure there are 100s more and that's not counting mile long "welcome" threads, post count celebration, "games" threads, and recent gmail flood. i'm not even going to bother with polls forum. 75% of polls are absolutly pointless and surve no purpose whatsoever other than whoever made them is an attention ######. do you really think that **** belongs on computer/tech discussion board? people seem to use neowin and their personal blogs and garbage bins AND MODERATORS DO NOTHING ABOUT IT! are you afraid of being called "nazi" just becuase you close/delete a few retarded threads? you'd rather put up with that grade-school trash than lay down the law and make neowin worth reading? i did address this issue with moderators in private but obviously nothing was done about it, so i'm posting here to encourage better action. i think the quality of your posts should be questioned all you do is bitch... bitch bitch bitch. why don't you just shut the **** up, there is a back button on your browser and you should learn how to use it. like someone else stated, the general discussion area is really easy to avoid, if you don't like it, don't click on the link to take you there, its that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Neowin is fine the way it is now. If these immature threads bother you, then why do you bother reading them. Surely you can tell that a thread named "measure the psi of a stream of urine?" will be to immature for your liking, so why do you bother reading the thread. Plus its been said above that General Discussion and Members Metropolis is not computer related, so you could simply avoid those forums. And MxxCon, I've been here for almost a year now, and I've read quite a few of your "contributions" to the board. My question is, why would a person who hates the board, hates the moderators, hates the members, and someone who actually keeps an ignore list on standby for IPB 2.0, why do you even bother coming to Neowin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I guess the way we should look at it is this, Neowin needs to make money to keep alive from ads and the new email. So What brings in the money? Members and if we restrict the board to just tech related stuff we will lose members, and money from ads. And the board could collapse because of that. I don?t know im undecided. Whatever keeps members happy. EDIT// someone fix matt74441 flaming before this turns into a flaming thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 My question is, why would a person who hates the board, hates the moderators, hates the members, and someone who actually keeps an ignore list on standby for IPB 2.0, why do you even bother coming to Neowin? get your facts strait and stop spreading lies about me. 1) i do not "hate" moderators disagreements is not the same thing as hate. 2) i do not "hate" members i have absolutly no problem with majority of memebers. 3) i do not "hate" the board. if i hated neowin i wouldn't waste my time posting here. however i do hate morons/retards/idiots. if you think that 3 things listed above apply to that, then it's your problem, not mine. and ignore list will be used for those special few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 Mxx, now, a question, how we can draw the line of whats usefull and useless? thats very relative and cant be done without getting some members upset, this doesnt mean that your opinions about the board are not taking into account, they are, but you need to understand that this kind of matters are very delicate to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt74441 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 get your facts strait and stop spreading lies about me.1) i do not "hate" moderators 2) i do not "hate" members 3) i do not "hate" the board. however i do hate morons/retards/idiots. if you think that 3 things listed above apply to that, then it's your problem, not mine. and ignore list will be used for those special few. ah, quality of posts on neowin and moderation at it's finest no.gif2 moderators posted in this thread. instead of instantly killing this retardedness and warrning who made this thread you only encourage it. no.gif good job moderators sick.gif I don't know, but you obviously don't think very highly of them. But like you said, its your problem not mine ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 My question is, why would a person who hates the board, hates the moderators, hates the members, and someone who actually keeps an ignore list on standby for IPB 2.0, why do you even bother coming to Neowin? I guess that is a fair question. I think that my question would be if things have deteriorated why keep coming back? I can understand him coming here in the first place. He has been here a long time, right? But sometimes things change. I have been at sites where moderators don't crack down on foul language, or they let their buds get away with things and ban people who disagree with them. Yes, it was frustrating, but the bottom line was that they chose not to enforce their own rules and those they did enforce were usually done arbitrarily. What was even more of a bummer, the admins and site runners backed them up. So, the fact was that those places were not the right places for me. Usually I did not like the content they let in and the way they ran the places, so it was a bad fit. I don't like mean people. I don't like cursing and I don't like porn on forums. A lot of sites let those things on there, so they are not for me. But so far Neowin seems to be a cleaner, more friendly board, and I'm glad I found it. I guess the moral of the story is that if this place doesn't fit you, there is no harm in trying to find one that does. There is no reason to fight a losing battle and be miserable all the time when you can find another place to hang out that may be more like what you want. It can be a bummer and feel almost like a break-up if you invested a lot of time, like you have, but sometimes moving on is best for everybody. Constant fights and battles are usually not worth it in the long run. I hope you do find a site you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumdefect Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I believe that people have the right to post what they like as long as coincides with the rules, I believe that if you do not wish to know about the posts put forward which do not involve technical information then just avoid them, but it's not really going to do you any harm just by sifting through the posts to find the one for you. There is a thread for everyone and so I think you should just accept the fact that people have different tastes, and although this was originally a tech forum, that no-longer is the case and so if you don't appreciate the forum as it is now, then perhaps find another forum which better suits you, which is an all tech forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I believe that people have the right to post what they like as long as coincides with the rules, I believe that if you do not wish to know about the posts put forward which do not involve technical information then just avoid them, but it's not really going to do you any harm just by sifting through the posts to find the one for you. There is a thread for everyone and so I think you should just accept the fact that people have different tastes, and although this was originally a tech forum, that no-longer is the case and so if you don't appreciate the forum as it is now, then perhaps find another forum which better suits you, which is an all tech forum. Bravo! (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 13:41] Mxx, now, a question, how we can draw the line of whats usefull and useless? thats very relative and cant be done without getting some members upset i'd make neowin tech only. maybe make separate msgboard for "other" topics. all the threads listed in the 1st post(and their variants) would be gone from neowin. i wouldn't hesitate to kill threads that don't follow "above average" standard. for every 2 upset members who got their "pee steam psi" threads locked, i'm sure there would be dozens of thankfull members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 I believe that people have the right to post what they like as long as coincides with the rules, I believe that if you do not wish to know about the posts put forward which do not involve technical information then just avoid them, but it's not really going to do you any harm just by sifting through the posts to find the one for you. There is a thread for everyone and so I think you should just accept the fact that people have different tastes, and although this was originally a tech forum, that no-longer is the case and so if you don't appreciate the forum as it is now, then perhaps find another forum which better suits you, which is an all tech forum. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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