[jon] Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 As per title: Where would we be without it? -- I shudder to think! Earlier today, I was scouring the web with my trusty friend google on the hunt for a MIDI file for my keyboard.... Wait? What's that I see? Appears to be my MIDI file waiting for me :woot: on a erm.. slightly psychadelic badly coded forum :o ah who cares, ill just grab my file at leave these peasants to live in their own filth - i'll just click this download button and .... :pinch: ok i have to register to download - not a problem i say! a ridiculously long and troubled registration process later, FINALLY i get the confirmation email and go back to download my file - again I just click this link and... :pinch: now i need "25 megabyte dollars" (WTF :blink:) apparently to download this file and i can earn this ridiculously stupidly-named currency by posting on the forums... Some "LOL" spamming in the jokes forum later and I get my file... That was a horrific experience. Let it never happen. It made me appreciate just how good neowin is - i will never forget those ridiculous garish colours and great swaths of popups attacking my computer screen :devil: Remember Kids, if anyone ever offers you another forum.... SAY NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTrang Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 A very nice post. Yes, I am appreciative of the straightforwardness of Neowin, the lack of pop-ups and minimal ads, and the multitude of posters who make this forum vibrant. I've tried other forums, but they're all dry and stale. You don't get anywhere near the participation on other forums that you do on Neowin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 What made me laugh is that I needed $25Mb (25 megabyte dollars) to download a file -- by browsing the forum, I saw just how much spam was made by people with a "megabyte dollar balance" of $25Mb - they had spammed the forum to earn some $Mb, grabbed their file and quit... Of course every forum has this - even neowin, by browsing the member list you can see thousands of people with postcounts of 0, whats good about neowin is that people arent FORCED into posting like on that forum... People are treated the same no matter what their postcount is, its the quality of their contributions that count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTrang Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 19:44] What made me laugh is that I needed $25Mb (25 megabyte dollars) to download a file -- by browsing the forum, I saw just how much spam was made by people with a "megabyte dollar balance" of $25Mb - they had spammed the forum to earn some $Mb, grabbed their file and quit...Of course every forum has this - even neowin, by browsing the member list you can see thousands of people with postcounts of 0, whats good about neowin is that people arent FORCED into posting like on that forum... People are treated the same no matter what their postcount is, its the quality of their contributions that count... What forum was this? I want to look at it and laugh at the "megabyte dollar" system :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 What forum was this? I want to look at it and laugh at the "megabyte dollar" system :p I am about to PM you the forum name, don't want to adulterate this forum by posting it here :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[John] Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Where would I be without it?...getting a real life! lol, j/k. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 omg STOP EATING PAINT CHIPS!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted June 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2004 PM me too :p Sounds fun lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Quality post from a quality member. (Y) This needs to be Moved here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivers Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 lol!! yeah I agree with Neowins straight forwardness and also the relaxed rules we now have. The only other forum I read/go to is a certain very popular bit torrent site and god it makes me laugh just how many petty stupid rules they have. The mods here (yeah they have their off days lol) are not power mad either and are quite relaxed too.. and pretty darn helpful at times :p All hail Neowin!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I bet MxxCon doesn't like it though. :rolleyes: Its supposed to be in the "everthing else" forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Quality post from a quality member.(Y)Y) This needs to bMoved herei> Hear that everyone? I'm a "quality member":laugh:h: heh thanks BOOG,:p:p Sorry for posting in the wrong forum:blush:h:):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ timko ] Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Without NW I'd be forced to surf pr0n all day :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonobozoot Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 18:36] Without NW I'd be forced to surf pr0n all day :( err.. we really didnt wanted to know that. :no: btw, what is a "megabyte dollar"? one dollar for a megabyte?? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 err.. we really didnt wanted to know that. :no: btw, what is a "megabyte dollar"? one dollar for a megabyte?? :huh: No its just some lame system where you get $10Mb for starting a thread and $5Mb for posting it and then u can spend it on like downloads and stuff which costs $25Mb :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ timko ] Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ,Jun 18 2004, 09:35] No its just some lame system where you get $10Mb for starting a thread and $5Mb for posting it and then u can spend it on like downloads and stuff which costs $25Mb :huh: Sounds like if you want to download stuff (whatever it is) then they encourage you to spam their boards. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 18, 2004 Administrators Share Posted June 18, 2004 great post, and seeing as Neowin is based off not making members lives hell on the internet I'm certain we'll never have those problems here :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1406 Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 I know exactly where I would be without Neowin: stuck using Luna, or WindowBlinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogan Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 I know exactly where I would be without Neowin: stuck using Luna, or WindowBlinds. .. and a computer filled with adware, spyware, old drivers and a slow and ugly windows :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishX Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 14:38] a ridiculously long and troubled registration process later, FINALLY i get the confirmation email and go back to download my file - again I just click this link and... :pinch: now i need "25 megabyte dollars" (WTF :blink:) apparently to download this file and i can earn this ridiculously stupidly-named currency by posting on the forums...Some "LOL" spamming in the jokes forum later and I get my file... jon, As a web developer, I use IPB quite a bit. I created a website for a Celtic band in Western New York and as soon as the forums went online, the fans ate it up! I've heavily modified it with mods like "fake currency for posts", but nothing where they have to have X amount of "cash" to do something they want. I've got a "shop" where they can buy things with the currency they accumulate from posts and they seemed to like it for a while, but it eventually lost its novelty and the "shop" doesn't get much use anymore. I also use IPB and an expanded SSI mod as a Content Management System for several other sites I've developed. Clients who are, shall we say, less than Net savvy appreciate that they can just hit "New Post" and it's instantly output onto their website. Anyway, I had to reply to your post. As a user, I hate hate hate having to jump through multiple hoops just to get onto a forum and participate or download something. As a web developer, I hate to put my (or my clients') end users through the same kind of hell. In short, yes. Thank [insert favorite patron diety here] for Neowin! Straight forward, informative and just plain fun. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankyone Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 the title rule!!! (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 20, 2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 jon,As a web developer, I use IPB quite a bit. I created a website for a Celtic band in Western New York and as soon as the forums went online, the fans ate it up! I've heavily modified it with mods like "fake currency for posts", but nothing where they have to have X amount of "cash" to do something they want. I've got a "shop" where they can buy things with the currency they accumulate from posts and they seemed to like it for a while, but it eventually lost its novelty and the "shop" doesn't get much use anymore. I also use IPB and an expanded SSI mod as a Content Management System for several other sites I've developed. Clients who are, shall we say, less than Net savvy appreciate that they can just hit "New Post" and it's instantly output onto their website. Anyway, I had to reply to your post. As a user, I hate hate hate having to jump through multiple hoops just to get onto a forum and participate or download something. As a web developer, I hate to put my (or my clients') end users through the same kind of hell. In short, yes. Thank [insert favorite patron diety here] for Neowin! Straight forward, informative and just plain fun. :) ;) thanks bud... At the end of the day it all comes down to easy of navigation and how to get the data you want when you want it - after all thats the point of the web. Nowadays, if people cant find what they want within a timeframe of say... 10mins, theyll just give up and go elsewhere... ive seen this especially with online shops with difficult navigation systems... you need to go 20 pages deep just to get some pics of some pencils you want to buy -- by this point, most visitors will have just buggered off elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgeek Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 ,Jun 21 2004, 00:51] ;) thanks bud...At the end of the day it all comes down to easy of navigation and how to get the data you want when you want it - after all thats the point of the web. Nowadays, if people cant find what they want within a timeframe of say... 10mins, theyll just give up and go elsewhere... ive seen this especially with online shops with difficult navigation systems... you need to go 20 pages deep just to get some pics of some pencils you want to buy -- by this point, most visitors will have just buggered off elsewhere... That's one of the most important things you have to remember when designing webpages and providing internet services. If you want customers to shop, then the site needs to be as simple as possible and not confused with many pages or over-designed techniques. If the customer gets annoyed with confusion or too bored or could not find the information they wanted to see, then yes, they will go somwhere else. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jon] Posted June 20, 2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 [jon]'s guide to building a bad site: get stupid flash intro for first page DO browser plugin searchbar (preferably xxx) "You must click YES to continue" LOOP UNTIL USER = DEAD banners popups google ads! animated GIFs pointless flash broken templates error 404 forms more popups! more toolbars! more pr0n! :shifty: :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 thanks for sharing i guess :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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