chacho Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 (edited) in north america, we have (mostly) idiotic leaders... in europe, there are geniu--oh wait... :laugh: *ducks* Edited June 21, 2004 by chacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted June 21, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 21, 2004 As far as your statement that statistics show that I am more likely to be shot because Im a gun owner ??? Would you please quote the study where you get your information?? Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: A national case-control study (PDF): http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/...=pdf&name=x.pdf The results of the study was published in the NYTimes on 5/27/2003 but I'm too lazy to register: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/27/health/p...&partner=GOOGLE The homicide sample consisted of 1,720 case subjects and 8,084 control subjects. Compared with adults in homes with no guns, the adjusted odds ratio (OR) for homicide was 1.41 (95% confidence interval [CI]1.20 to 1.65) for adults with a gun at home and was particularly high among women (adjusted OR 2.72; 95% CI 1.89 to 3.90) compared with men (adjusted OR 1.23; 95% CI 1.01 to 1.49) and among nonwhite subjects (adjusted OR 1.74; 95% CI 1.37 to 2.21) compared with white subjects (adjusted OR 1.27; 95% CI 1.03 to 1.56). Further analyses revealed that a gun in the home was a risk factor for homicide by firearm means (adjusted OR 1.72; 95% CI 1.40 to 2.12) but not by nonfirearm means (OR 0.83; 95% CI 0.62 to 1.11). The suicide sample consisted of 1,959 case subjects and 13,535 control subjects. The adjusted OR for suicide was 3.44 (95% CI 3.06 to 3.86) for persons with a gun at home. However, further analysis revealed that having a firearm in the home was a risk factor for suicide by firearm (adjusted OR 16.89; 95% CI 13.26 to 21.52) but was inversely associated with suicide by other means (adjusted OR 0.68; 95% CI 0.55 to 0.84). A simplified version can be found here: http://www.upenn.edu/researchatpenn/article.php?678&soc If you keep a gun in your home, you dramatically increase the odds that you will die of a gunshot wound, according to research published in the June issue of the Annals of Emergency Medicine."Keeping guns at home is dangerous for adults regardless of age, sex, or race," said Douglas J. Wiebe, PhD, instructor of biostatistics and epidemiology at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and a fellow at Penn's Firearm Injury Center. Wiebe led the study by the Violence Prevention Research Group at the University of California at Los Angeles before moving to Penn. Wiebe's study found that people with a gun in their home were almost twice as likely to die in a gun-related homicide, and 16 times more likely to use a gun to commit suicide, than people without a gun in their home. The findings support widely debated studies published a decade ago in the New England Journal of Medicine that also link the presence of a gun in the house with increased rates of suicide and death by homicide. One in every three households in the United States contains firearms; the number of guns in those homes totals nearly 200 million, according to the National Institute of Justice. In his study, Wiebe compared 1,720 homicide victims and 1,959 suicide victims over the age of 18 with a sampling of American adults. "Our findings suggest that, when violence occurs and a gun is accessible, the gun may be selected for use over a weapon that is less lethal," Wiebe said. "That is particularly significant in terms of suicides and domestic violence." Wiebe's study also found that handguns accounted for 40 percent of all domestic homicides and one-third of all suicides. In fact, according to the research, people with a gun in the home were significant less likely than others to use a non-gun weapon for suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtaylor Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Another difference: Europe isn't obsessed with the Queen of England. Americans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSpy Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 1) North America - namely the USA is a Federation of States. Europe is not and hopefully never will be unless Tony Blair + other European leaders get their way. 2) European languages are original. English for example is English, not say, as many Americans are starting to refer to as, "English (US)" or "American," so Microsoft + other American companies could you stop giving language options in your software such as "English US" and "English UK." It's just English. Understand? 3) North America's have rather dubious and incorrect ways of spelling words. For example colour is spelt with a "U" and so is favourite. Any other version of the word is wrong. 4) Some North American Territory's have allowed the death penalty, while the morons in Europe have banned it claiming "human rights." I'll think of some more later... as there are loads... Master Spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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