Nollog Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Internet OS :pc: :devil: That wouldn't be too safe... Not to mention "Why make a computer if you're going to drag everything from a server?" Google don't make OS's yet, but if they decide to change their business plan, it might be possible. But if you look at google at the moment, they only make free products and services, taking in all profit from it's advertisers. How many people want ads on their desktop? I don't! I can't even stand the little "Evaluation Version" text on the bottom right in windows demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamthief Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 I wouldn't say it is not possible for Google to develop an OS. Maybe they dont want to be dependant on any outside parties... all using in-house developed products. I read in my local newspaper technology report on Google, the webservers hosting Google services are all written purely in-house (no not using Apache). There are several other software also written in-house (can't really recall what). The webservers are running on Linux (or it's many variants) box i think, Google might want to install their own OS to run the webservers that is truly optimized for their services. My guess if Google OS is really on the roadmap, it would be just used internally (reason above) and not for commercial purposes. For commercial purposes, it would just be another flavour of Linux. Building from scratch a commercial market OS would be too costly even for Google to handle. EDIT: The link by Zetter http://blog.topix.net/archives/000016.html, somehow prove my point bout for developing internal usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 sorta a combo of linux and windows This would be the most important feature of a new OS. It's very important cause the software that is available is based on an existing plattform. People would not buy a new OS and have no applications to run on it. If google came up with an OS (yes they are in the process of designing one ) it would be based on the Linux kernel, but not quite as a "normal" Linux system... We'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsnarc Posted June 22, 2004 Author Share Posted June 22, 2004 hmm surpised this topic stayed alive without me for a few days, and say some forward thinkers posted google is not a normal company, they are ahead of their time, I think it is quite possible that google could develop a sorta cross between windows and linux, that would be able to run old windows programs, (maybe linux programs but so few use linux (other then servers) that it's not really worth it) but anyways google is an amazing company, google.com is the third most visted site, and once gmail goes public, orkut (is orkut considered public? I mean everyone has unlimited invites) and blogger.com, but between all the different things that google owns and runs it will be the most visited site, although I doubt they will turn google.com into a portal like yahoo.com and msn.com with links to everything there is a 75% chance google will create an OS and those of you saying stuff about how Microsoft is one of the 5 largest companies in the world, well the old saying "The Bigger they are, the Harder they fall", has been scientifically true usually thoughout history and I'm not that new of a user, I just changed my account name recently, I have been involved in the computer technology world for about 5 years, and have posted on Neowin forums for about 9 months and will soon be a mod (I hope, they are annoucing for sure on July 1st) on Gmail Forums the most sucessful gmail focussed forum, I have a few friends that are employed by yahoo and msn I know my stuff, like I said in the comment of this topic, it sounds crazy google isn't a software company, and your right google isn't, it's a communcation company and no matter how organized and efficent google makes communication, it ain't worth a darn if you can't access it with an OS -Notsnarc :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Cat Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 I'd buy that for a dollar................................your move, creep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 hmm surpised this topic stayed alive without me for a few days, and say some forward thinkers postedgoogle is not a normal company, they are ahead of their time, I think it is quite possible that google could develop a sorta cross between windows and linux, that would be able to run old windows programs, (maybe linux programs but so few use linux (other then servers) that it's not really worth it) but anyways google is an amazing company, google.com is the third most visted site, and once gmail goes public, orkut (is orkut considered public? I mean everyone has unlimited invites) and blogger.com, but between all the different things that google owns and runs it will be the most visited site, although I doubt they will turn google.com into a portal like yahoo.com and msn.com with links to everything there is a 75% chance google will create an OS and those of you saying stuff about how Microsoft is one of the 5 largest companies in the world, well the old saying "The Bigger they are, the Harder they fall", has been scientifically true usually thoughout history and I'm not that new of a user, I just changed my account name recently, I have been involved in the computer technology world for about 5 years, and have posted on Neowin forums for about 9 months and will soon be a mod (I hope, they are annoucing for sure on July 1st) on Gmail Forums the most sucessful gmail focussed forum, I have a few friends that are employed by yahoo and msn I know my stuff, like I said in the comment of this topic, it sounds crazy google isn't a software company, and your right google isn't, it's a communcation company and no matter how organized and efficent google makes communication, it ain't worth a darn if you can't access it with an OS -Notsnarc?:pp i would really like to explain your "so-called" fascination with google. I have said other things about your comments, yet you choose not to acknowledge some of them. why are you so eager for microsoft to fall? did they hurt you in some way? this is another post that i made that I would like you to read (if you have read it again, and respond): lol so msn= microsoft network microsoft = windows thus msn = windows network windows network = wdn hmm, that a crummy name but seriously people I may be crazy but I'm right, lol, there's been books written on microsoft's fall, I'm just saying who is gonna take it's place, funny none of you can name anyone else to take it's place it's like when nothing appears where air was, everything else rushes in, I'm merely saying that google will rush in, because no other company is in a position to, and microsoft will fall in the next 10 years, much evidence on that, but i don't feel like getting into it? i think that this is wishful think on your part. it seems that you want and are looking for reasons that microsoft could fall. dont you have anything better to do than wish death on a company? microsoft is one of the "top 5 biggest companies" in the world. i doubt that they will die in 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years from now. Microsoft has a 95%+ market share on desktop computers. Microsoft has a good piece of the server market (25% - 50%). Microsoft's pocket pc operating systems are outselling palm based PDAs (plam based PDAs are also falling). Microsoft's Office has about 90%+ of its respective market. Microsoft's internet explorer has about 90% ofs its respective market as well. MSN finally started making money last year (a little, but finally). They have $53 billion+ in the bank, loads more in stock value, plus bill gates' $46 billion+ like i said, it is pure wishful thinking on your part. i dont think that any company can replace microsoft. they will be around for a very, very, very loooooong time. lol, the age of inventors is over, their won't be another Bill Gates a single person cannot make a revoulutnary OS (though someone may make some revolutionary change for linux) but anyways in order to build an OS you need cash, in order for it to be succesful you need a rep, google has and will have both, it's still building it's base but 5 years from now it will be ripe time for it to make an OS i just dont understand why you are so intent on having this idea that google will make an OS. i dont think that google has the resources or the know-how to make an OS at this point. remember, not everyone wants google on their desktop. at best it would be just another "linux distro" with "better" searching capabilities. i have an idea, why dont you just wait for longhorn, at least that is currently in development which means that you wont have to wait as long. fine I give up, but 5 years later you'll all be talking about google's new OS's development and I'll be makin fun of all of u or the other way around. it could go your way, in which case google will have an OS in 5 years. two situations come from that: - it fails in which case ill be laughing (because youll be laughing if i am wrong) - it succeeds in which case youll be laughing (and if you are still in these forums i will gladly say that i was wrong) or it could not happen at all in which i (and others) would also be right. you have about a 25% chance of being right on this issue. i may have over simplified it, but i dont think by much. i would also like to know why you think microsoft will fall within the next ten years? Notsnarc, i want to understand your reasoning, but it seems that you dont really know why you think that google would even want to develop an OS. please read the above quotes and give me some answers. I would also like you to answer all of the questions that I have asked (at least the ones that are quoted and included in this post. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablitz Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Google OS doubt that will happen, but would be interesting if it did to see what they come up with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted June 22, 2004 Subscriber² Share Posted June 22, 2004 Some people seem to post such utter junk, really!!!! Nollog: Google do make products and services that they SELL. They do NOT get all their revenue from advertising. Research before you post. "Why make a computer if you're going to drag everything from a server?" - Wow, let's just write off all thin-client computing here and now then shall we? "Internet OS That wouldn't be too safe..." - Um, many OS's are Internet aware, go play with beOS for a while. "I can't even stand the little "Evaluation Version" text on the bottom right in windows demos" - Don't leech copies of evals then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablitz Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 ^ || || || think he woke up on wrong side of bed today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Man you are obsessed with google First on the subject of MS... they have 95% market share, between MS funds of stock and gates funds they have well over $100 billion in the bank... they cannot feasabily go anywhere for a very long time. It would take a major shift in the wind for them to die in 5-10 years.... XP to Longhorn alone is 5 years Your comment on Apple that they're "too busy making things look cool" was just dumb.... OS X is a robust and stable OS. Thirdly... for someone involved so much in the computer world for 5+ years, you write like a 13 year old. You have not cited any kind of hard proof as to why Google would make an OS. You've only supplied links to non-reputable brand X sites and cited rumors over and over. If a team of programmers the world over cannot make Windows apps run in Linux (the WINE team), what makes you think one company would be able to do it? The world runs Windows. There is, to this date, not a single OS that can FLAWLESSLY run every single Windows application out there as if the app itself was running under Windows. Notice my key word flawlessly in there. There is no reason Google would be able to pull this off. The world runs Windows The net is powered by *nix The trendy people use Apple :p Where does Google fit in? At this point in time, as a search engine. There is no viable room or reason for Google in the OS market right now. PS - The age of invention is not over - don't be stupid. People are inventing new and amazing things every day, just look at the medical industry. That statement further makes me think you're talking from your buttox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 .Net: Something used to catch .FishOS X: The $2000 operating system that includes a free computer nuggetman, am i supposed to laugh at that or be offended? i agreed with your last comment which is why i wonder what you mean by that. to Notsnarc: i still want answers to my questions. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsnarc Posted June 22, 2004 Author Share Posted June 22, 2004 PS - The age of invention is not over - don't be stupid. People are inventing new and amazing things every day, just look at the medical industry. That statement further makes me think you're talking from your buttox. Inventors, very few things are invented anymore, the of invention started in the 19 hundreds, and is ending, most things now are developed, by large teams in scientific labs. Hardly anything anymore is invented by Joe the Genuis, that lives down the road from you and he got the idea cause those darn squirrels kept tearing up his field Invention has not ended, but now nearly everything is developed by team's the companies pay Sorry to not address the rest of your comments but I have to run, be back in like 12 hours and I'll edit this or post a new one to address the rest -Notsnarc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 He means that it takes a good apple to run 0s x as good as you want (superdrive,insanely hi prices for software). I like os x, i just dont have the money for it. Maybe if apple had standardized parts, hmmmm nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaRaKa Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 let be honest it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nollog Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Some people seem to post such utter junk, really!!!!Nollog: Google do make products and services that they SELL. They do NOT get all their revenue from advertising. Research before you post. "Why make a computer if you're going to drag everything from a server?" - Wow, let's just write off all thin-client computing here and now then shall we? "Internet OS That wouldn't be too safe..." - Um, many OS's are Internet aware, go play with beOS for a while. "I can't even stand the little "Evaluation Version" text on the bottom right in windows demos" - Don't leech copies of evals then! LoL! Actually, I read tht Google don't sell products recently... Granted, they have Google Answers and they've been floated on the stock market ( May not have happened yet, I'm not sure ) but what do they sell themselves? Yes, lets write off all thin-client computing. Nothing to say for the third quote of me... I don't leech copies :| I have tested and have used testers computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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