Steven P. Administrators Posted March 18, 2002 Administrators Share Posted March 18, 2002 Well my question is this. I am interested to see if anyone can give me some proof that we are not alone in the Universe and if there are sites that exist that show "proof" of this. What are your thoughts? have they been? Do they exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Otto Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 they exist...ur talkin to one right now... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me101 Veteran Posted March 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2002 Yes they do exist. How would you account for all those nice pretty designs in corn fields all over england and other parts of the world. Only UFO's with advanced technology could do that sort of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewelzz Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I don't think we're the only life form in the universe but I don't have any proof of that. We are not alone The turth is out there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKer Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I haven't yet seen any site that has a convincing image of a UFO which can't be put down to some well-done image processing. I won't ever close my mind to the subject - and would like to believe in UFOs - but I've still to be convinced by an official/reliable source finding indefinite proof, ie if I saw news on reuters showing one, I'de be more inclined to believe (and all the 'government are lying' theories don't stand much ground with me either). :alien: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted March 18, 2002 Subscriber² Share Posted March 18, 2002 UFO's do exist (don't have proof yet:)). If we are the only intelligent beings there is a lot of wasted space out there. For all the information we pump in to outer space (tv, radio, etc.) some one has got to be curious and see who/what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me101 Veteran Posted March 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2002 What about the corn fields.... that's very good evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Of course UFO's exist.... Unidentified Flying Object. Whether that is a weather balloon, a reflective bird or an alien spaceship is a different matter. Aliens probably don't exist in my opinion... in any way that we understand at least. I think the logical place to look for 'aliens' is in the water. Like in Abyss there is the possibilty that aliens are living here and we don't know about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrg Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 mortensen: i dont know how you can say they probably dont exist.. just given the sheer number of galaxy's, the statistics are over whelmingly in favor of them existing. in our galixy alone (and keep in mind there are billions of galaxy's, there are trillions upon trillions of planets. so in our universe there are billions upon billions upon billions upon billions of planets, it's stupid and very conceded to think that we are they only possible intelligent life here. from the movie contact - If there isnt any other life, it sure seems like an awefull waste of space. there is no point to have billions and billions and billions of planets and make 1 spec have life. it makes no logical sence. you can bet your piggy bank on the fact that there ARE other life forms out there. weather they have been here or not is a whole nother question.. but i'd bet my left nut that they exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Frink Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 www.abovetopsecret.com is a cool site if you have some time to kill and want to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-outcast- Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 unidentified flying objects exist.... whether they are alien or not hasnt been shown to the rest of the world just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKer Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 What about the corn fields.... that's very good evidence. People have admitted some of those were hoaxes, a newspaper even tried one here in the UK, and it looked very convincing. Had mysics walking round saying the place had a strange power! People also cashed in on many of these, charging for people to go onto the fields - but some were amazing and who knows how they were made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 18, 2002 Author Administrators Share Posted March 18, 2002 Yea my main argument would have to be.. a) Why would an alien species travel to the earth and not make themselves seen (waste of time if you are not gonna do First Contact) b) Why are we the head of the Federation of Planets but we still havent met any other species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashpickinman Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 i've seen plenty of ufos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin2002 Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 My neighbor is an illegal alien does that count?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis_nehc Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 My neighbor is an illegal alien does that count?? b> Ahahaha, I love that! And yes, I do believe there are beings out there. Simply because all things evolve... damn it takes time, but it does happen. And though the chances of evolving into capable being is of slight chance, given the statistics of gazillion planets out there, I would say that couple billion (just saying some random 'illion) of beings evolving into intelligence being are no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeRider Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 As an earlier post suggested, a UFO is simply any airborne object that has been observed, but cannot be identified. Intelligent life on other planets? I would say that the odds that there is NOT intelligent life are far longer than the odds that there is. It has already been hypothesized that life exists elsewhere. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/life-00w1.html Depending on who you believe, this suggests that there is not only life beyond Earth, but within our very solar system life existed elsewhere a long time ago. I don't see why that is such a stretch. As the planets cooled, there must have been a time when conditions on Mars were not so different that those that existed during Earth's early history. Why would it be so hard to concede that in other solar systems with like conditions, that a similiar combination of events occurred that allowed for the development of life on a cellular level. That such life, given sufficient time, evolved into some type of higher life form. That this higher life form then made the quantum leap that mankind did, whether by Divine hand or pure evolution is up to you to choose for yourself. I am a Christian. I believe in God and I cannot see this almighty, omnipotent, non-linear entity finding satisfaction in the creation of one intelligent species throughout all space. God created the heavens and the earth because it pleased Him to do so. I would not be so egocentric to believe that mankind was all that such a complex Being would need or want in all of time and space. Of couse there is life elsewhere, anything else would be silly . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRKz Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 They exist, if they didnt, then it would be a really big waste of space.. And the corn fields, doesnt prove anything. There was something on 20/20 (i think it was 20/20), and they showed people, making one. They paid them to plan it, and 20/20 recorded them doing it. It isnt that hard, farmers fields themselves have a grid pattern, and as long as you can walk in a straight line, or in a curve, you can do it! I cant explain it well, but I saw it on TV, and they showed them do it. But yeah, the main point. Aliens exist, because considering the hundreds of thousands of planets that exist, the chances of another of those planets being capable of producing life are quite immense. To think that only our planet, out of the hundreds of thousands of planets is capable of supporting life, is completely ignorant.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpit Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Think rationally about this... Our yellow sun is a type of star among other kinds, and sizes. In our galaxy, there are a lot of planets, however, Earth's orbital location is most perfect compared to us, allowing favourable conditions for life on this planet, from single cellular organisms to as complex as us. Remember, there were favourable conditions found on Mars as well, (single cellulared bacteria, and water), because that's the next best place in our solar system where there's a possibility of existance of life (I kinda doubt that they would try and generate life on Mars though, 'coz the gravitational force is way less up there than it is on Earth... Earth: 9.8 N/kg Mars: 3.81 N/kg.... http://www.nsbri.org/HumanPhysSpace/focus6...6/spacephy.html but then again, it's a relatively smaller planet, so there's still a chance...) Now, this is just our solar system...our galaxy has a lot of stars, and of various sizes, which also arises the possibility of life in our galaxy itself? I mean, it doesn't have to be advanced enough so it can be detected from the equipment/technology available to us...in fact, it doesn't have to be human beings...but some sort of a life form... Again, that's just our galaxy...there are A LOT of galaxies out there...hence, stars with planets orbiting...with a definite possibility of favourable conditions on planet(s)...now, depending upon the type/size of star, life form could vary (that's a given)...but given the information, I think without a doubt that we aren't alone... (For all we know, there could be a planet Krypton with a red sun)...:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcalibur Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Originally posted by me101 Yes they do exist. How would you account for all those nice pretty designs in corn fields all over england and other parts of the world. Only UFO's with advanced technology could do that sort of stuff. lmao, as therkz said, its been proven that they are made by humans, it was on a tv show, where they mounted a camera high above on a crane thingy and showed some people making them.. its all BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 18, 2002 Author Administrators Share Posted March 18, 2002 I was actually hoping to see photos of space ships and little "green men" but I think most of the people here are missing the point when they talk about a Weather ballon being a UFO when you damn ****ing well know I didnt mean that :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozart Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 The question is: are we being visited by aliens from another planet? No. There is a very likely chance that intelligent life exists, but the distance of space makes contact and travel prohibitive. I want to believe, but I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Well, summaring all stuff up (like probability of planets around suns, suns of the right type, etc etc) there's still nuff probability left for aliens to exist en masse in our universe, a couple of tenthousands cultures. If they have ever been to earth is another thing. The encounter and abduction reports are 99% hilarous and 99% untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 there is no point to have billions and billions and billions of planets and make 1 spec have life. it makes no logical sence. LOL, you hit it dead on. It doesn't make sense that in all the galaxies we have studied that there is no intelligent life... just baron planets floating around a star. And multiply that by many billions of empty planets flying about... we can't even prove that there is/isn't life on Mars actually, so this isn't the best point to make... lol - we have no evidence to show that 'aliens' exist, and we're not sure even how the universe was created... is there a God or is it and infinite look of the big bang thoery [expanding, collapsing]. And if the big band theory is right then how did the material for the big bang get there? And how can space go on forever? All substances we havce experienced have limits.... You could then go on the basis that space is rounded and loops around on itself but what contains it? How is it possible to something to just loop around in nothingness, and where does that nothingness cease? We don't know diddly squat about that and so hypothesising about alien races seems pretty futile. And then if you go on the religious basis... how did God get there [whereever it is]? Or has God always existed... and how is that possible? Then you have to question whether wormholes or faster-than-light travel is possible because if they don't exist then it will again be impossible to contact other races [if any even exist]. The subject is so filled with 'ifs' it just isn't funny. - On another topic... how did humans build things like Stone Henge? Or how did we build the Pyramids? Have we already been visited by aliens who have dismissed us? We can't even figure out what happened 2000yrs ago so humans have a long way to go. Sorry about my rambling but there are just so many mysteries on our own planet without wondering about alien races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I am an alien... want to see my green card? :) kekekee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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