Neowin Ripped!


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very good job tingle ...

thank you very much..

yes i am the admin of trojanforge.net..

here i am..

u said that u are the one of the member of this site.. neowin.net .. professional site about windows and so on..

is your action is proffessional?

u know what u have to do when u see a copy of your site, your program or anything that is owned by you ??? :

you should contact with the copier first! and then your team mates!

but what u did? flamed me, post msgs over here and all over the peoples over here is hates me now?

this is it? this is what u want?

take a look my answer to ur msg ok?

http://www.trojanforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=268

and those guys asking how i ripped codes? i only get the design! all the codes are mine.. forum is phphbb2 and i modded it.. download script is another one and i also modded it and integrated to site..

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u know what weasel ?

my hands are shaking right now..

pushing buttons is real hard for me!

i opened my computer to look my mails and my site..

what i say in first look;

waoww i have new users and posts..

when i look in , i see tingle's post..

eSouL : my english not very good but i cant use correct words in this mood sorry for that..

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Y'all just need to calm down.

Its a web page - and yes it sucks to have your work stolen.

But it is an act of a VERY NOBLE and HONEST man or woman to seek permission and let the original creator know of the intended use of the work.

It is the act of a sewer rat to jump to a conclusion after receiving ONLY hearsay.

Get all the information before you rage on someones work.

There is some great stuff on here. I check this site many many times a day. But its crap like this that will bring the site down.

I am appalled by everyone who flamed and critisized the webmaster of that site.

PS- copying of the layout of a webpage does nto violate any Intellectual Property rights - directly copying the code does.

peace.

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So when will Tingle apologize?

From Tingle, page 2 of this post.

you cant but you never know lol. The way their system works i think

Sorry but I personally am behind Erdem 150%.

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no no Eth3l ..

i dont want any apology...

and thank you for support..

deleting this topic is enough..

as weasel said "Marketing experts say that there is no such thing as bad publicity.."

so i dont need any action about me and my site..

peace (this is for peoples who knows what peace means)

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You know what I think? i think whoever made this thread had bad intentions to mislead or provoke. "Neowin Ripped!" was the title. A little suggestive isn't it? Before somebody makes a post accusing others, maybe he should check if he's got enough evidence? In conclusion, the fault should be sorely on the thread starter. The people here responded to false accusations.

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First, just as a member of this community I'd like to apologize to erdem for the treatment and anguish he was hit by due to the reactions from this thread. I'd like to believe we're better than *some other sites*. Sadly, a demonstration of how we can slip off the deep end with the best of them came about instead.

Second, before we start swinging the ax around 180 degrees, let's take a sec, calm down, and realize that behind the usernames you're going after are actual real people. This thread may not have lead to where it did in the first place if we had just done that simple thing.

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IMHO you should put something like "I've got a permission to use Neowin's design blah blah blah" in your "about us" page. Just a suggestion ;)

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YOu know who you are. ANd to the guy with the site that looks similiar, thank you for being honest, taking the time to get permission to modify the theme, and for trying something new and interesting.

Don't mind the retards, they know not!

BB

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erdem, as much as you, i do not like getting flamed by people:

first of all thank you for flaming tingle..

and thank you Strataboxes for not visiting us again..

I think that is just as much flaming towards me in my opinion.

The reason i posted what i did was because you said that the design was modified from neowin, but no where did you say that you had permission from neobond or redmak. How was i meant to know you had emailed him?

Surely you can understand what im thinking, redmak spends ages on the design of the site, i spend ages helping him and making it more compact and work better, then from what i see, someone copies it without permission.

I understnad that the PHP codes you use are all free, thats fine i have no problem about that, i only said i hope no one steals neowins code as a joke, cos i know its not possable without ftp access, but thats all it was meant as.

I was only protecting our work that we had speant ages doing, and from where i saw it you had no permission to copy it. If you cant understand that then well

Tingle

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lol i see this way too much on the net. Anyway, why is it such a bad thing to want to use something that works? You know how many sites work like neo? That are pro made? not many. People come up with ideas 24/7/365 and they get copied. I'd be proud if my site was copied. that's saying, "dude, you're damn good at what you do so i'm gonna copy you" i'd be like "sure go ahead" you wouldn't even have to ask me. i believe in sharing the goods. I'm not into all that "give me credit" stuff ;) i do the work for me. people are welcome to rip it 24/7. That is, whenever i start making my own stuff. There's more important things than stuff you create, ya know?

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ahem..

who are protecting which work?

just think; I mailed to neobond BEFORE openning my site..

cause i know what u guys doing here.. i know creating a site like that isnt easy.. also moderating it...

i think this is the respect to Neowin team works, codes and bla bla..

as for ripping; can u explain how can i access those codes?

anyway i dont have those skills to access..

yes it seems like a joke but 1600+ views 60+ msgs .. none of them includes a joke.. only

"hurray attack him, he is a ripper, he needs a teraphy, ohh my god ..." ... this isnt good for me ...

i am flaming u? whoah? i am trying to answer ...

and also i hope u see the mail ...

anyway 1600+ of people hates me, 60+ people signed their hatefull agreement with their replys..

no problem..

cya

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anyway u have to ask me first..

but u didnt.. now we have this 5 pages 60+ replys..

and as i said those 1500+ peoples with - ideas..

anyway no problem.. this shows us what to do and what to not..

Botiemaster : i agree.. and if u r doing ur job right u wont loose ur visitors.. and if the copiers are good enough may be they will have the %1 of ur visitors.. who knows..

anyway having an another nick as a ripper isnt good..

:ermm:

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How about we all calm down here hey.

The only reason i posted my message was because i didnt know you had permission from neobond, how was i meant to know you had emailed him? he wasnt online to ask at the time, so i posted a emssage on your site questioning this, expecting you to reply with some kind of answer. What else do you expect me to do?

I didnt intend to turn this into a 5 page thread, just wanted to get to the bottom of whether you had permission to copy neowins pages, thats all. No need to get stressed about it

Tingle

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This thread is SO boring. I don't want to be such a troll but normally even the bad threads don't really seem that dull. This topic isn't really in the spirit of the Neowin community.

I'm not into all that "give me credit" stuff i do the work for me. people are welcome to rip it 24/7.

I'm like that with my website... I spend time taking pictures of music videos and I felt really proud when someone was using one of my pics as their sig in this forum. I didn't want to be asked but I was happy that they were using MY work. This is a slightly different situation but it's not 100% different.

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ok sorry I couldnt reply sooner.. damn it seems that everything always happens when I'm in bed :p

It is true that erdem asked permission to use alot of Neowins design which is already a whole lot more than others do while I may not be happy at the fact that they show no sense of design for themselves allowing themselves to copy over almost 100% he did ask permission.

I decided as it was a site that deals with trojans it wouldnt be in direct competition with Neowin using our own design.

BUT.. to say that this thread was out of order is also not quite true. because the deal was that the guy (erdem) make it plain and clear that the design comes from Neowin. it seems that he failed to do this, allowing Timan to jump to the conclusion. (It maybe an idea to prevent this from happening in the future)

and to answer the question on who does Neowin, yes it is me, redmak and Tingle that coded it. There were also many people along the way with ideas and small beta tests.

We are also not finished. We may have a small surprise for everyone today :)

and this DOES remind me of the old "Who stole my icon's" thread. While people will defend the author of icons till they are blue in the face it seems that people who steal websites designs "should be able to" in the eyes of alot of people here. I disagree.

Neowin is a creation. by me, redmak and tingle. we did it so that you can view and use it. I did not do it so it could be ripped and used on another site to be made out as their own design!

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Originally posted by Tingle

What else do you expect me to do?

You should have mailed him dude :) That's what we always do when we come accross sites like that. Usually we get a good response.

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