h71y6 Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 I have a question. I just managed to read 3nd3r's post before it was removed, with good reason i suppose. And i managed to check out www.<< spam >> Seems strange that a lot of peeps from this site are registered there. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nd3r Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 yes, my thread was a goodbye letter to all of neowin but appaerently you are not allowed to do that! this is ghey! and i cant even get a good reason why it was deleted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 visit irc.habber.net #neonerds and i'm sure they will be glad to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 Apparently it's ok for certain people to say that the site has problems but it's not ok for other people to say it. When some people say it I guess it's someone addressing an issue and looking for a possible solution, when someone else says it it's a derrogatory statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 26, 2002 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2002 I'm afraid that is a long story that I hope will never have to see the light of day in the public forums 3nd3r has taken leave of his duties on Neowin due to a conflict of interest (www.<< spam >>) there were long discussions that led to this decision being made. I am afraid I cannot be any nicer than I am being. However 3nd3r will retain his status here until we can resolve the issues currently being discussed in the non-public staff forums. Please guys this is a staff issue, let us sort this out ourselves without flaming etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 You could be considerably nicer than you are being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nd3r Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 Steve that is crap! you purposly deleted a public statement to neowinnians. It had nothing to do about the discussion we have been having in area51! it was a goodbye! that is all! in no way did i advertise my site or ask anyone to go there! i have my own community and for some reason you think my 50 members are a threat to your 10,00 members... that is no compitition man! why are you throwing the censor on me? all i want is an answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted March 26, 2002 Veteran Share Posted March 26, 2002 being a memeber of both communities, i want to make it clear that neonerds was not in competition with neowin. this is based on the posts in both of the forums. the people at neonerds just wanted a more quiet place to relax. you can't deny that neowin has more flamers and lamers than positive contributors. it's sad, but it's the way it is. cheers and respect. joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkavenger Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 its never a public problem until its in the problem and we all know that the problems here r in the public so lets settle them in the eyes of the public im sure u have nothing to hide and nore does he lets just be nice and all chill keep the friendly attitudes i mean: LETS NOT FLAME A PUBLIC FORUM COS THAT WOULD B NEOWIN'ly ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkavenger Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 u have lost the darkaveger i know your not sad cos u dont realy know me but you have lost me because u r to conserned about stats u told me a lot of things in the #neowin days things maybe u shouldn't have but i know them and thats for me to decide what im going but im leaving cos the spirits in the right place at the neonerds site feel the vibe its happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster2100 Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 checks out neonerds:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 26, 2002 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2002 All I am seeing here with the exception of PM5K are neonerd members quickly jumping on this thread to tarnish the community. darkavengers comment made that crystal clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 i have not been at neowin for too long compared to some but i have notice the declining of professional and mature content throughout the forums and no respect to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nd3r Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 for GOD sake do not leave neowin because of me! Neowin is a great site! all i was saying is that this is a goodbye "and BTW thanks for the support!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted March 26, 2002 Veteran Share Posted March 26, 2002 neobond: with respect, the forums are not what they used to be. as sad as it is. we are not tarnishing your forums by telling people the truth, the way things are. maybe people don't know how good they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkavenger Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 im pointing out the truth and that is what i told u i sat u down and said it unless u control it and unless u let the anger out in the chat it will go wrong steve i hate doing this I TOLD U SO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 I believe that I understand everything that is and has gone on here, and I think that Steve is taking this way too seriously and way too personally. I am not a member of Neonerds, infact I only signed up for my own site when it was required by a new version of the site backend. I have however read what has transpired, and can't comprehend Steves position. You need to go get a pack of Nicorette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 I intend on staying a neowin member since this site kicks ass. I have also joined neonerds to see what it is about. I guess my curiosity caught me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted March 26, 2002 Author Share Posted March 26, 2002 Maybe i shouldn't have brought up the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster2100 Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 Originally posted by Neobond All I am seeing here with the exception of PM5K are neonerd members quickly jumping on this thread to tarnish the community. darkavengers comment made that crystal clear. im not a *member* but yeah, it seems to be a nice clean site oh, and neowin is great! i love it! but it does seem its going a little downhill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nd3r Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 That is my point Steve! these are your members not mine! Dont jump down my throat when your own members complain damnit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 Yeah.. everything is kicked backed there.. nice and slow, none of that 15 replies a second where you can't even keep up with the forums.. its also uncluttered.. unlike here... sorry.. but i speak the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 /me also checks out Neronerds....and likes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PabUK Veteran Posted March 26, 2002 Veteran Share Posted March 26, 2002 While you are at it can you all join my community too... I am not communist or anything, I just make cool sig pics. :D Current stats: Members: 158 ? Posts: 11127 ? Topics: 701 (Not bad but could be better) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 26, 2002 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2002 Thats what being a site admin is all about.. So now my staff can start spin-off sites using Neowin members that turn against its own community who do you think caused it to go sour.. I can tell you. The people in this thread that have gone to neonerds (more than 2 days ago) are all here bitching at me and Neowin and in the same breath saying the quality has gone? I explained more than once that Neowin , yes it does have 10,000 members and over half are active.. we get an average of 1500 posts a day here, we have survived people like ConcernedDad who complained about the Babes forum (mysteriously around the same time alot of people complained that Neowin's quality had gone down) Well I can tell you from the heart that I have put alot of effort into this site and am annoyed when people use me like I feel I have been used by a certain staff member. I think its easy to complain at Neowin but reverse the roles for a minute and try to see it from the perspective of the admin who have bent over backwards to deliver quality (only yesterday a new feature was added to site commenting, making interaction a little better) We listen to people and do what they ask (I just opened the media forum before all this happened) and as Admin I respect you all by sitting here trying to defend a community paid for out of the pockets of our host. I dunno what you want from me. we have clear rules on advertising and staff - Warp2search, Maxreboot and Techconnect are our affiliates yet they do not poach away members or openly advertise their sites here. 3nd3r was staff yet he now has a long list of members from neowin on his site that is however anyone sees it competition to neowin. (its a site mirrored from neowin) Anyway I guess if you admin this site you would just let people walk over you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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