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Originally posted by Mike11212

Mike I never expected this from you.. - Edited by Admin

Awww no fair! I was just responding to this with a joke (I wasn't flaming, I just found it funny) and when I get to the post box it is gone. Hmph.

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Originally posted by PabUK

Awww no fair! I was just responding to this with a joke (I wasn't flaming, I just found it funny) and when I get to the post box it is gone. Hmph.

WOW!

PabUK speaks! isnt it weird that he never says anything until something bad happens????? /me wonders....

:D

-3nd3r

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Originally posted by h71y6

You can "understand" and "recognize" the problem as much as you want to, bro. But no one is "doing" anything or "leading" by example? Just "complaining". Don't think from these posts that anyone's "pretending" the problem doesn't exists. Ok, now we know that there is a problem, so HOW are We going to help resolve it?

I do lead by example and I do help because I don't go around flaming people, and if I do get into a heated discussion I always attempt to remain calm, reasonable, and I always try and drop a joke here and there to break the tension.

I also have offered my help as a mod to Steve, since I am no longer running my site and I am usually around here.

But of course Steve and I go way back, and I actually was a mod here before, I was even banned from this place quite some time ago, so I don't know what Steve really thinks of me ;-)

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Originally posted by 3nd3r

WOW!

PabUK speaks! isnt it weird that he never says anything until something bad happens????? /me wonders....

:D

-3nd3r

I thrive on doom and gloom. ;)

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3nd3r your avatar disturbs me, please remove it or I will be forced to take you to court for punitive and compensatory damages.

I have suffered deep emotional distress, and I appreciate your quick and helpful reply.

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This is turning into one big baby mama drama type of thing.

why cant we all get along

Nebond

3nd3r

I ask

no wait

I demand you two make up

hug kiss do what ever just stop it stop it stop it.

Someone already said this it feels like all of us are in the middle of your dispute with each other.

How ever it started who cares just make up.

Neo your gonna have to realize people are going to go to 3nd3r's site and look at the forums there

People from here visit the amd forum boards.

Others visit the Extreame Hardware forums and other forums similar to this one.

But your neowin people will remember and come back

Neonerds seems like a good site and it will grow and probably have the same problems your haveing.

And yeah you love neowin its part of your life.

And 3nd3r Neonerds is your creation and its a great site

Just kiss and make up so that everything can go back to normal.

Or something bad will happen neowin will lose a lot of members and neonerds will become a scoobie paradise.

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Originally posted by Neobond

Thats what being a site admin is all about..

So now my staff can start spin-off sites using Neowin members that turn against its own community who do you think caused it to go sour.. I can tell you. The people in this thread that have gone to neonerds (more than 2 days ago) are all here bitching at me and Neowin and in the same breath saying the quality has gone?

I explained more than once that Neowin , yes it does have 10,000 members and over half are active.. we get an average of 1500 posts a day here, we have survived people like ConcernedDad who complained about the Babes forum (mysteriously around the same time alot of people complained that Neowin's quality had gone down)

Well I can tell you from the heart that I have put alot of effort into this site and am annoyed when people use me like I feel I have been used by a certain staff member.

I think its easy to complain at Neowin but reverse the roles for a minute and try to see it from the perspective of the admin who have bent over backwards to deliver quality (only yesterday a new feature was added to site commenting, making interaction a little better)

We listen to people and do what they ask (I just opened the media forum before all this happened) and as Admin I respect you all by sitting here trying to defend a community paid for out of the pockets of our host.

I dunno what you want from me. we have clear rules on advertising and staff - Warp2search, Maxreboot and Techconnect are our affiliates yet they do not poach away members or openly advertise their sites here. 3nd3r was staff yet he now has a long list of members from neowin on his site that is however anyone sees it competition to neowin. (its a site mirrored from neowin)

Anyway I guess if you admin this site you would just let people walk over you?

i would never do as you say *turn against you* i LOVE neowin:D

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C'mon everyone.... let's all go into a quiet room, have a listen to Lennon's "Imagine" then all come back out to play with a smile on our faces :)

I think we all pretty much agree what makes a good forum and what doesn't... so those that want to contribute to Neowin please do so by raising our games and getting the boards back to their best, and those that want to get their kicks elsewhere then please do so as well.

Neowin rocked, still rocks, and (hopefully) always will rock!

In the words of the great bald one: "Make it so."

Please.

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well since you cant finish a conversation like a man Steve I think I will post it here so everyone else can read:

as your last IM

Neobond: among other things.. the thread "What is going on" proves to me the way you think about neowin and the status you had here

3nd3r: that was not my thread

3nd3r: i didnt make it

3nd3r: i only participated in it

Neobond: I mean your responses

Neobond: anyway I have had enough

Neobond: its stopping here

It will not stop here damnit! you will listen to what i have to say if you like it or not!

My responces were true! They in no way harmed your site! GROW UP!

Ill say to you what nobody else has the balls to say because i know you steve I know that you think you are above everyone else but you know what? Your not! Neowin is not you! Neowin are the people that come to it! you may censore some of us dude but not all of us! these people will be here long after neowin bites the dust "which it will eventually happen"

And as for your remarks to my IM's Get a life! All i wanted was your respect and friendship! you are not even any better than AdamXP! you spit in my face just like he did to you and I.

You are no better thaqn him! the only difference in my eyes now is that you have a site and he dont? Are you really 12? you are sure acting like it!

I really hate to say all of that but DAMNIT it is ****ing me off! you were the one that was wrong! If you dont believe me come in my chat room whare most of YOUR members are at right now! irc.habber.net #neonerds ask them yourself!

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Does it suck that you cant hide behind your mods this time? why dont you post our little conversation to the public? common do it!

Dont you hate it that this argument has gone public? I DONT! I AM GLAD!

Apparently I am the only one here that sees what a cry baby you are But if i am wrong then say so! prove me wrong! if you can!

Like I said before all i want is a damned apology Steve! Or a you did good work when you were here! something! but you cant do thT CAN YOU? You cant say that to any of your staff and damnit THAT IS WHY NEOWIN IS BECOMING THE ****S! You need to be more professional with you staff dude!

maybe more to come after i start drinking

-3nd3r

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As a quick note: Neobond has gone to bed, which is why he isn't responding. I think this needs to tide over for the time being until both parties can get in touch with one another.

SO..for the time being, I'm going to close the thread. I hope thats understandable.

EDIT: thanks 3nd3r. I hope this thread is re-opened tomorrow when you're both awake. :)

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