XP SP2 BUG's

[angrybrit]

I get disconnected from every Counter-Strike server I go on with SP2..

disable the firewall or add HL.exe to the list of exceptions (Security Center -> Firewall -> Exceptions -> Add Programs). Don't forget to add Steam too.

[todd]

disable the firewall or add HL.exe to the list of exceptions (Security Center -> Firewall -> Exceptions -> Add Programs). Don't forget to add Steam too.

I disabled the firewall (along with the security center) as soon as I installed SP2.

[angrybrit]

I disabled the firewall (along with the security center) as soon as I installed SP2.

I have both the Firewall and Security Center (how can you turn SC off?) on.

And regular Counter-Strike works fine. I just tried it. I didn't test CS: CZ though.

You wouldn't have something like Zone Alarm on?

We need more info.

[todd]

I have both the Firewall and Security Center (how can you turn SC off?) on.

And regular Counter-Strike works fine. I just tried it. I didn't test CS: CZ though.

You wouldn't have something like Zone Alarm on?

We need more info.

You can disable the security center in services.msc (Start -> Run -> services.msc) .. It's XPSP2 from a format but everything is vanilla.. no firewalls, no antiviruses.. It's CS 1.6 via steam. When I connect to a server I can play up to a few minutes but I'll get disconnected.

[traveaso23]

Hmm Style Xp doesn't work and damn does my theme look so ugly now. Argh is there s fix for it yet?

[JoDaddy]

I formatted and then installed, the only prolems was with an older app installing, but I fixed that by running in compatability mode. I tried to replicate all the errors here, but no luck. :)

[todd]

Hmm Style Xp doesn't work and damn does my theme look so ugly now. Argh is there s fix for it yet?

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=200807

read the section on patching uxtheme.dll

[Recall1982]

Can someone tell me what the heck is this?

I have SP2 on my PC and for a few days there wasn't any bug but today after start I got this message.

Thanks in advance.

[zachman123]

I'm having (numerous0 problems with my Ati Radeon 9700 (dell oem) before and after a driver update, including getting VPU recover errors, Counter-Strike crashing/lagging on my computer only (boo!) and now I've been having problems with fast user switching.

I've been thinking of rolling back, but I know since SP2 is RTM I'm going to pretty much have to get it sometime.

Anyone have the problems I listed?

[VG11489]

Do any of u proplr hae this prob

well I was at nortons website and when I went to support then automated support or something like that then I clicked m product which is norton internet security pro 2004 after I click it internet explorer just exits out anyone can confrim this

[Prince21]

My two problems are when I load it is fast, then when i see my desktop it take sages for stuff to load up in the background and the icons in the corner, Some of the stuff loads up but not all icons are in the corner of taskbar i know this because they are running and before there was icon in corner now not e.g. my music control and my remote control

[6u7ch3r]

I have sp2 from microsoft.

all my problems are to do with video ot seems. installing sp2 over sp1a i had problems with thumbnailing any .wmv files and some .avi. everytime i'd open a folder with video files in it explorer would thumbnail all the files until it got to the .wmv and crash. on the second crash DEP would pop up. Disabling DEP for explorer doesn't work.

So after slipstreaming sp2 I tried re-installing only to have the same thumbnail problem and now I can't play .avi's and most .wmv's at all because WMP, winamp, and divx player all crash out. I uninstalled all divx/xvid codesc and still have a crashing problem. Sometimes dragging the files into the media players works but not always. I think DEP might be the culprit but am not sure. I don't have dr divx installed.

Other than that I have no other issues.

[Prince21]

You should have done a clean install with SP2, there are divx problems see the divx forum for a fix!

[6u7ch3r]

You should have done a clean install with SP2, there are divx problems see the divx forum for a fix!

found the highly experimental quick fix, will test now. thanks.

EDIT: winamp and wmp still crash out when opening files, divx player seems to work ok but I'm not real keen on using it.

So is the general consensus that slipstreamimg sp2 is bad news?

Edited August 10, 2004 by 6u7ch3r

[liar2]

Security Center is telling me that I don't have an AV installed. I have NAV installed. I disabled the notices in Security Center though. I just wish it would recognize it.

[lardiop Veteran]

I can't slipstream an SP2 CD using Windows 2000 SP4!!!

[todd]

I can't slipstream an SP2 CD using Windows 2000 SP4!!!

lolol

[AminoSC]

I've slipstreamed and haven't had any problems since installing the latest DivX driver.

I just wish Norton would get their nav update out....ho hum. It's the tenth for christs sake!

[null_]

I can't slipstream an SP2 CD using Windows 2000 SP4!!!

Neither could I, even though slipstreaming SP1 to an XP CD worked fine, SP2 slipstream would crash with a weird error. Oh well. Windows XP = Better than 2000.

Dazzla: Daemon tools works fine here, 3.23.

[AminoSC]

Neither could I, even though slipstreaming SP1 to an XP CD worked fine, SP2 slipstream would crash with a weird error. Oh well. Windows XP = Better than 2000.

Dazzla: Daemon tools works fine here, 3.23.

I may go back 2149, that build ROCKED!

[Ryan V]

I may go back 2149, that build ROCKED!

I hope you do know that all beta and RC builds expire after 180 Days :whistle:

[AminoSC]

I hope you do know that all beta and RC builds expire after 180 Days :whistle:

Yeah, I re-format for various reasons (betas) all the time. So a 180 day time trial means nothing to me.

[fatboy28]

Upgraded from SP1a+ to SP2 last night on 3 machines. 2 were clean ! On the 3rd after installation the machine locked at boot. On reboot it locked going into safe mode.

After 2 further attempts I resorted to a reformat and re-install of XP SP1 slipstreamed and SP2 on top..... I still have the same problem.....

Suggestions most welcomed

[AminoSC]

After testing Norton AV, NIS, NSW 2002 and those versions of 2003 with

repeat installs before every build of SP2 including RTM and seeing

speculation here and on the web and other groups about how Norton would

handle incompatibility issues, I decided to call them and try to get

clarification. I also had watched, learned, and picked up tips and links

on different threads from the groups here to compare experiences.

I was intrigued to their web site's approach to XP SP2. I collected every

web page they had referencing SP2 RTM today.

1) Basically, they decline to say whether they will patch for backward

compatibility and how far backward.

2) They urge you to hold off installing SP2 until they're ready to release

patches on a tentative, speculative vague schedule over the next 7

weeks--tentatively. They have two pages of schedules to release patches for

some of the business and enterprise security products over the next six

weeks.

3) On install of 2005 Beta, they have a singular box right before the finish

that explicitly tells you to turn off the Windows Firewall. I am positive

that no one on the [MS] XP SP2 team wants you to turn that fire wall off

when you install SP2--whatever the level of it's capability. They have an

undefined portion of NIS's code (worm blocking) in NAV 2005 but it's almost

impossible to tell what that means.

4) On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 they have announced they will deliver a

"maintainance patch via

Live Update," but if Live Update isn't working (and it doesn't for many

using pre-2005), they have "no plan now" to make any patch available on

their site. They have declined to release "details."

5) After SP2 RTM was released by MSFT to the public, on the evening of

August 9, 2004 Symantec said they are not phone supporting it yet, and they

don't have any idea when they will be supporting it for their customer base.

They suggested that I should find Microsoft's web site, and they were kind

enough to tell me that it was located at www.microsoft.com and it is. I

told them I knew Microsoft's site well, and was there on most days, and

asked them what they wanted me to do when I got there in reference to their

product? They said they didn't know.

In summary, following MSFT's suggestion on the Beta site and public sites to

uninstall any antivirus before installing a build of XP SP2, I did this

throughout the different builds through RTM. I also "Beta tested" NAV

2005--meaning I installed it and emailed them my experience with some

screenshots of the bug.

I didn't have 2004 to test. Some friends are having no problem with 2004

and SP2 since it went public with RC2 and now RTM, and some are having the

same problems I had.

In summary, before 2005 I had multiple errors that were Norton's translation

of Live Update not running completely, having to configure Auto Update on

every boot, and not being able to run a full viral scan. Auto Update,

Script Blocking, Email Scan, File Scanning on right click, Instant

Messenger, Office Plug-Ins and Miscellaneous all worked. The SP2 Security

Center couldn't monitor these versions, but I didn't count on it to remind

me of anything.

The 2005 Beta worked in every respect--for 3 boots and then then the System

Status Screen that opens up froze on "refreshing" in every category. Email

from Outlook and OE was scanned, but I couldn't tell if anything else was

working, even if I downloaded a benign vb script and installed it.

The beta period for them ended 2 weeks ago. This particular problem has

been seen in every version of Norton AV or NSW since 2002.

I purposely chose to talk to one of their Tech Support rather than another

type of representative, because I reasoned this would be who was fielding

calls from home and small business users who are being encouraged to update

to Win XP SP2 by numerous articles on the web, and links on Microsoft's site

as well as a stellar publicity campaign. My idea was that Security was the

dominant force driving the release of SP2, and that Symantec is the maker of

security products, so that there should be a common goal realized.

I started my questions with this quote:

From:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...&src=ivr_na_con

"Symantec encourages its customers to install the product update prior to

installing SP2 in order to avoid incorrect reporting from Windows Security

Center. Symantec's consumer customers will receive notification from their

Norton product when the update is available. The SP2 product update for

English versions of Norton products will be available beginning August 10,

2004. At that time, Symantec will provide detailed information about SP2 and

compatibility with Norton products, including frequently asked questions

(FAQs) and support documentation. Please check back to

http://service.symantec.com/xpinfo on August 10, 2004."

Translation--"We don't know when we will have patches exactly for SP2--but

hold off on SP2 until we figure it out. If Live Update is broken so far, we

don't know how you will get the patches. We don't know or won't say how

much backward compatibility there will be for patching SP2 for our products,

but don't install SP2 untill we um figure it out."

Why patches for many products are slated a month from now to more, would be

a

reasonable question. Why they are silent about how backward their

compatibiity will be is another reasonable question.

I asked and my support professional didn't know. I recounted all the

issues I experienced with SP2, NAV, and NSW through RTM and I was told that

since SP2 is a Microsoft product I should talk to Microsoft about how Norton

works with it and go to www.microsoft.com . I pointed out to them it was

not Microsoft's responsibility to support Symantec's products that Symantec

sells. I also pointed out that Microsoft has an embryonic Antivirus company

of their own brewing.

*Errors Seen With All Builds of SP2 including RTM and NAV/NSW 2002, 2003 and

for some 2004:*

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/share...&build=Symantec

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.n...&build=Symantec

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/share...&build=Symantec

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.n...src=bar_sch_nam

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.n...src=bar_sch_nam

*Symantec/Norton has three pages on their plans to patch currently*:

The vague one on the August 10, 2004 maintaince patches for certain unknown

versions of unknown products that will depend on Live Update working when it

does not work for many with SP2:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...&src=ivr_na_con

The FAQ projecting patch release from Norton for selected products over the

next 7 weeks tenatively:

http://<< spam >>/6mfsy

This page from the enterprise portion of their site:

http://www.symantec.com/region/reg_eu/tech...patibility.html

I asked them what they were doing for the large number of home and small

business users who buy those yellow boxes, and they said they were issuing a

"maintainance patch" through Live Update. I pointed out that a large number

of people found that Live Update wouldn't function with SP2 in all versions

pre the 2005 beta and for many people the 2005 beta system status

screen--the box that comes up when you open NAV or NSW or NIS was frozen on

refresh after 3 reboots and they said that was a "visualization problem

caused by IE" and they had a KB that "might work." That KB however, is

available for only versions prior to 2005:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.n...src=bar_sch_nam

They did not know how you would download the patch on August 10, 2004 if

Live Update

wouldn't fetch it, because they have no plans to post it on their site now.

I'm tempted to load 2005 and see if their KB for the identical problem with

NSW 2003 will do any good.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.n...src=bar_sch_nam

The way Symantec/Norton has handled this, the timing, and the lack of

transparency, and the irresponsible referral to Microsoft's website by a

company of grown people who should be taking responsiblity is at best shabby

and totally unacceptable. They are *supposed to be*, in fact a Security

company. They make security products. The driving force behind SP2 was

security for the most part. Norton is a Microsoft Platinum Partner. Their

agenda to hide whether they will be backwards compatible is poor--and a

stronger word reprehensible comes to mind.

I was willing to cut them slack before SP2 RTM'd because people would

reasonably post sentiments like "they are going to play things close to the

chest until XP SP2 RTM's." Now they are playing things close to the chest

for almost two months after it RTMs.

Every Cool Aid stand I've seen by kids from ages 5-10 has been run with

more clarity and more efficiency. Symantec Norton is asleep at the switch

in regards to the operating system occupying about 95% of the boxes on the

planet and responsible for their existence both at the home/small business

and the enterprise level including all their large yellow enterprise

hardware.

Their site profile says today as it has for years, "Symantec is the global

leader in information security" http://www.symantec.com/corporate/

Symantec advised me to go to Microsoft's site, so I decided to stop here:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2...SP2LaunchPR.asp

"Service Pack 2 is a significant step in delivering on our goal to help

customers make their PCs better isolated and more resilient in the face of

increasingly sophisticated attacks," said Bill Gates, chairman and chief

software architect at Microsoft. "It is the result of sustained investments

in innovation and extensive industry collaboration. It also reflects a broad

recognition that as the security environment changes, the industry needs to

work together to respond."

Symantec's response to this today was that they don't know when they will

make what products compatible with this significant security initiative by

Microsoft with help from their Beta Testers, and their advise on their site

today. In response to Microsoft's press release that on August 6, 2004

their partner Symantec issued one the same day.

"Microsoft Releases Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security

Technologies to Computer Manufacturers

Company Urges Windows XP Customers to Turn on Automatic Updates to Get the

Stronger Security, Greater Manageability and Improved Experiences of

Landmark Service Pack" REDMOND, Wash. - Aug. 6, 2004

"With the proliferation of viruses and other broad threats on business and

consumer desktops, I can think of no higher priority than trying to ensure

the security of personal computers," said Rob Enderle, principal analyst for

the Enderle Group. "Whether the customer is a large enterprise, a small

business or an individual, Windows XP Service Pack 2 is critical because it

addresses today's exposures in a comprehensive fashion. For anyone currently

using Windows XP, my advice is to apply it at your earliest opportunity."

Developing Service Pack 2 required close collaboration between Microsoft and

other industry leaders, including software vendors, chip makers and PC

manufacturers. Examples of the industry collaboration on Service Pack 2

include the following:

a.. Windows Security Center. Windows Security Center monitors the status

of software Internet firewalls, Automatic Updates services and anti-virus

software.

"Now, more than ever, users need to be more hands-on in safeguarding their

computers. Symantec supports Microsoft's efforts to raise security awareness

among Windows users worldwide with the release of Windows XP Service Pack

2," said Stephen Cullen, senior vice president, Security Products and

Solutions at Symantec. "Symantec's current line of industry-leading consumer

and enterprise antivirus, firewall and intrusion prevention security

solutions are compatible with Service Pack 2 and allow the mutual customers

of Symantec and Microsoft to defend against today's blended security threats

as well as the unknown threats of tomorrow."

The above was from Microsoft's press release August 6, so I decided to see

how Symantec is making this happen on the ground by calling, and by drilling

their site today. Nothing Mr. Cullen Senior VP at Symantec said is

happening at all right now. On the contrary, Symantec is doing everything

possible including urging customers *not* to deploy Windows XP SP2 on their

webpage right now, and if one installs Norton Antivirus 2005, one can

screenshot a singular box that says to turn off the XP SP2 Windows Firewall.

I would love to do a CNET News interview with Mr. Cullen telling him what is

on the Symantec site and what I was told at 6PM last evening after the

public release of SP2 RTM. Symantec has done an outstanding job of being

quintissentially disigenuous.

Symantec's response is that the their customers who are their customers

because of Microsft's Windows XP and other past and future versions of

Windows should hold off deploying SP2 RTM and Norton products are being

shipped that urge turning off SP2's Firewall.

"Symantec encourages its customers to install the product update prior to

installing SP2 in order to avoid incorrect reporting from Windows Security

Center. Symantec's consumer customers will receive notification from their

Norton product when the update is available."

Symantec Document ID:2004080212383739

Last Modified:08/06/2004

This is difficult to reconcile and unfortunate for Norton's large customer

base which would not exist if their were no Windows operating system.

Richard

[b3ta]

I installed SP2 and do not have any of the problems listen above.

Neither do I. :rolleyes: