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No HTML does not. You can get Vs.net Academic through theSpoke for like $25. Or get SharpDevelop...100% free and open source with support for c# and vb.net

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The downside to SharpDevelop is no debugger... that's a huge downside, too. You can get an Express version of the next release of VS.NET at MSDN for free. Apparently, the Express versions are going to be $49.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/default.aspx

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I believe the easiest general purpose programming language to learn is Euphoria, by Rapid Deployment Software. And I bet most of you people never even heard of it before. :p

Euphoria has the cleanest syntax I've ever seen in any programming language in it's class, period! You can probably become fluent with the syntax in a couple of days time.

This basicly sums it up: An powerful, free, very fast, very simple, very clean, multi-platform, interpreted, block structured 32 bit programming language (64 bit to come).

Unlike most languages... it is not Object Oriented, but Euphoria has the "sequence" which is a extremely powerful data structure. BUT, there are several user written libraries that can emulate full-fleged OOP (I'm no fan of OOP so I'm extremely happy about this). The distribution itself is very barebones.. But there is a small, friendly user community with an message board with an archive of 71,000 posts stored from 1996. plus 1,515 user contirbuted programs, libraries, etc.. to date. There are a few products you can buy: Binder/shrouder, C Source code, and Euphoria to C translator. But the interpreter is free as of v2.5.

The language takes elements from C, Basic, and Pascal.

Now I'll be truthful... there are a few things I dont like about this language:

1) It just isnt popular enough!!!! It's been around since 1993, but only has about few thousand users. And only a couple hundred of them are active members (Im one of them). Becuase of this, there isn't as many tools available to the public as there could be. And that is fairly important when an ala-carte style distribution is in place.

2) The language development is kinda slow and steady. The next release will be version 3.0, I gave lots of suggestions to the language creater/maintainer: Robert Craig (alot is expected for a major release). He has a very strict and self-minded direction for the language development, but that keeps the language clean, and simple.

3) The language isn't fully opensource, and none of the other products are. Although a seperate free open-source 100% compatible Euphoria interpreter written in Euphoria is available, but is about 8-14x slower than the official interpreter when translated/compiled.

But even with all that the language is 24 karat gold, that can be used for virtually anything.. except maybe making web-applets, but is better than Perl with CGI!

Geez, this post is too long! :rofl:

Learn alot more here: http://www.rapideuphoria.com/

Regards,

Vincent

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Hi all

So I myself was wondering which language to start with.

I played around with VB for like a week, going thru the steps of a tutorial. That was fairly easy

However I have heard several times that this is not the good way to start with if you want to manipulate higher languages like C, C++ or C#

So I have been looking at this thread still wondering a bit where to go

In fact i bought a huge book on Visual C++, I think it's a compromise between touching a good language + the ease of use of Visual studio. Little by little I recognize certain properties of the C++ language in the code section

Do you think this is a good way to get to know C++ without having to go thru other languages first?

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In all honesty, VB isn't a bad way to start. Its the easiest language syntax wise (no worries about capitalization, intellisense is far better than in C# or C++ if your using visual studio). Plus transiationing from VB to C# is relativly easy. The methodology in which you program with these two languages is fairly similar and alot of the syntax is basically the same. After you transition to c# and work with it for a while you will find the transition to other languages (Java, C++) will be easier because they all use the same "bracketed" syntax.

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The good thing about VB is that, as others have said, its easy to use, and easy to read. Plus, now VB.NET exists, you can easily move onto a .NET enabled language with the same easy syntax, just more powerful, and then the transistion to other languages is easy :)

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Probably Python (http://www.python.org/). It's very useful just to get to grips with how languages generally work, then you can move on to more advanced stuff, there are loads of tutorials around, there's a beginners guide on the official site and http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.php is very handy

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i tried python if ur just beggining its not a good idea i have no clue what to do with it if anyone can help me it would be great

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You can't really go wrong with Fortran .NET

:D

OK, seriously

Do you think this is a good way to get to know C++ without having to go thru other languages first?

Yeah, I wouldn't think that's crazy or anything.

I also recommend Java (not Javascript) as a first language, or C#. These two follow C++ syntax and concepts rather closely, but are both far "cleaner" implementations. Since C++ has to be C compatible, that introduces a number of pecularities to the language. C++ also doesn't run in a managed environment / virtual machine, which can make apps a bit harder to debug if they crash. Managed code like that of Java and C# always output e.g. very helpful stack traces if an exception occur. Of course, Visual Studio also support stack traces in its debug mode even with C++, but that doesn't apply to any crashes in release builds.

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SML,

a functional language. good to learn the basics on such as recursion, manipulation data structures etc. then move on to java.

(but i started on qBasic then VB and Pascal)

....and html doesn't count, neither does CSS. they are just text formatting!

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I started with Visual Basic at sixth form, which was pretty easy and good for creating fairly basic programs quickly. At uni we did C followed by Java and Haskell. Haskell = nightmare though, so I wouldn't waste your time on it. Java and C are easy enough as well.

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Java!!! It's a great language because it is powerful, yet it handles some of the more complex intricacies of languages like C++/C. It will also let you realize the power of classes! They are the best thing in the world, I became spoiled by starting with Java, then C++ because creating instances of objects makes your life so much easier. When I recently learned C I have sat thinking how much I just wanted that power. i have to go to bed now because I am delerious.

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