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So saying "cracks are good" should be disallowed too right since it's "glorifying" the use of cracks to circumvent software security?

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Exactly, where do you draw the line between discussion and glorification? This is where I've stopped with this debate, I don't know where the bar should be set.

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So saying "cracks are good" should be disallowed too right since it's "glorifying" the use of cracks to circumvent software security?

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Use your own judgement on this. I believe that a person who is intelligent and mature enough will know the answer to this question.

For those of you who can't use his own judgement, here's my simple answer: yes.

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I don't agree with your statement.

The pipes in your pictures are required to smoke weed, according to my understanding. By showing off the equipment you need to use for the consumption of illict drugs, you are also saying, "Hey, look, you can smoke weed using such beautiful devices. Isn't it cool?" and hence promoting the use of drugs. You seem to be almost selling them.

What I don't understand is why you care?

Are you worried that seeing pipes will force you to try illicit drugs? You'd better not look at any of DSNbehind's half naked pictures of men then.

My understanding is the Members Metropolis is limited to members 18 and over. I can see the problem if you were worried about a 13 year old but once it is in MM then what's the problem? Adults can make up their own minds.

I can see why the admins might want to close a thread, even in the MM, that "promotes" drug use. Maybe they're worried about breaking laws, legal liability or the overall professionalism of the board. But I just don't see why you care.

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Exactly, where do you draw the line between discussion and glorification? This is where I've stopped with this debate, I don't know where the bar should be set.

OK, it may be down to personal opinion, but here's a clearer example of "discussion" and "glorifying". We will use the subject matter, illegal drugs, as an example.

EXAMPLE OF "DISCUSSING":

I think that drug abuse affects not only a person himself/herself, but the entire society as a whole. Since they are unable to work properly, they are more likely to become jobless. And since they are dependent on drugs, which can be expensive, they may commit crimes such as robbery and theif, causing all sorts of problems for the community...
EXAMPLE OF "PROMOTING" AND "GLORIFYING":
Hey mofo, stfu and start smoking weed today. You will feel so high and so wonderful that you will forget all about your problems! ...
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OK, it may be down to personal opinion, but here's a clearer example of "discussion" and "glorifying". We will use the subject matter, illegal drugs, as an example.

EXAMPLE OF "DISCUSSING":

EXAMPLE OF "PROMOTING" AND "GLORIFYING":

How about:

"Smoking pot helps me relax"

or

"Smoking medical pot reduces my pain"

or

"Smoking pot is okay but I can do more damage with alcohol"

Where do you draw the line with those?

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i don't get it.. even the admins!! don't think it's a problem as long as it stays in the member metropolis area..

weed is everywhere.. here it's even legal. i don't smoke it and i don't mind other ppl smoking it as long as they are not blowing it around me.. they can do whatever the hell they want..

i'm sorry you are not as open to weed as "we" are. don't make such a big issue of it man..

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How about:

"Smoking pot helps me relax"

or

"Smoking medical pot reduces my pain"

Where do you draw the line there?

"Smoking pot helps me relax" definitely is glorifying, as this implies that drugs help you relax, when you are actually harming yourself. The keyword in "Smoking medical pot reduces my pain" is the word "medical". If a drug is used for medical purposes, under the professional advice/prescription of a doctor, then it's OK and legal. If it's not, then it should be regarded as illegal. For over-the-counter drugs, if taken properly and according to directions on the package, or if under professional advice/prescription of a doctor, then it should be OK too.

I don't know whether pot has any real medical value, but I do know that a few drugs which are regarded as illegal can have lega medical uses, while people have abused cough syrup before.

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OK, it may be down to personal opinion, but here's a clearer example of "discussion" and "glorifying". We will use the subject matter, illegal drugs, as an example.

EXAMPLE OF "DISCUSSING":

EXAMPLE OF "PROMOTING" AND "GLORIFYING":

Now you are a hypocrite.

Your example of "DISCUSSING" is completely against it.

You example of "PROMOTING" is still ass backwards. Show me an example in the thread that you include in your title post...

Not a single person says "SMOKE POT! PLEASE!" no one even told another person to smoke it. The only one who did was a mod telling you to loosen up.

Here's a link, in case you forget...

Hell, did you notice where Redmak a few posts said as long as mods can oversee it, it's not a problem?!?

EDIT: Also, I note that you aren't 18, according to your profile... Having a birthdate of June 9th, 1987. So, what are you even doing in the Member's Metropolis?

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Now you are a hypocrite.

Your example of "DISCUSSING" is completely against it.

You example of "PROMOTING" is still ass backwards. Show me an example in the thread that you include in your title post...

Not a single person says "SMOKE POT! PLEASE!" no one even told another person to smoke it. The only one who did was a mod telling you to loosen up.

Here's a link, in case you forget...

Hell, did you notice where Redmak a few posts said as long as mods can oversee it, it's not a problem?!?

Here's one real example of "glorifying", from legion:

Weed smells so good. omg mmmm. Makes my mouth water.
Another real example, from bennett:
Hell yea man it is all good to man i love it. i like to be at that point of been high and then smoke more and reach more leavels of highness me and my mate have been writing this book on the different types of highness it is almost complete to

Another one from legion, in reply to my post stating that illegal drugs give you a fake/false "high":

Its not fake, how can it be fake?

WHat ever is funny is funny, THC enhances it.

MDMA puts in fake euphoria.

There's more. Look at the thread.

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Here's one real example of "glorifying", from legion:

Another real example, from bennett:

Another one from legion, in reply to my post stating that illegal drugs give you a fake/false "high":

There's more. Look at the thread.

DID THEY TELL YOU TO SMOKE IT? HMM?

EDIT: Even more so, they are just giving their OPINIONS on marijuana. You, being a mature adult, should be able to make your choice upon whether you need to get you some pot. Oh wait, that's right, you aren't an adult... Never mind...

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I specifically remember one that was made in reply to one of my post, telling me to shut the f*** up and give weed a try. I was deeply offended by that one post, and I believe that the post was made by either legion or bennett (update: it should be legion). I believe that post has since been deleted.

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What I don't understand is why you care?

why we care? because we are a site directed to a wide range of ages, includes lots and lots of minors, in fact I dare to say that most of our members are kinors, hence it up to our own judgement to determine what its suitable to our members and what not.

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I specifically remember one that was made in reply to one of my post, telling me to shut the f*** up and give weed a try. I was deeply offended by that one post, and I believe that the post was made by either legion or bennett (update: it should be legion). I believe that post has since been deleted.

Hmm, then if it's not there anymore, it's not offending anyone, is it?

I'm done with this post, officially. I believe that yes, there is a problem with marijuana. But every person should be entitled to their opinion is all. It's not right to be completely biased against something you don't know of or can't speak of. Keep an open mind man. That's all I'm asking.

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DID THEY TELL YOU TO SMOKE IT? HMM?

EDIT: Even more so, they are just giving their OPINIONS on marijuana. You, being a mature adult, should be able to make your choice upon whether you need to get you some pot. Oh wait, that's right, you aren't an adult... Never mind...

Are you trying to intitate a flame war here by editing your post and including this line: "Oh wait, that's right, you aren't an adult... Never mind..."? If so, then I say, you have failed. I won't even try to retaliate against you, because I know that I will be falling for your flame trap.

As for them posting opinions, yes. But they are pratically glorifying the use of weed.

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,Aug 19 2004, 05:52] why we care? because we are a site directed to a wide range of ages, includes lots and lots of minors, in fact I dare to say that most of our members are kinors, hence it up to our own judgement to determine what its suitable to our members and what not.

[sanctified], I agree with you on this point. In fact, from my knowledge, there is at least one known minor here, under the COPPA agreement, and his name is daniel10. There may be others, but we may never know.

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