PM5K Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Neptune was the upgrade for Windows NT (supossed to be a consumer version of NT), and Odyssey was the upgrade for Windows 2000, which was combined into Whistler, which later became known as Windows Experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizik2 Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 CORRECTION, silly geese. as someone previously stated 95 - chicago nt4 - indy 98 - memphis 98se - nashville 2000 - cairo XP/2002 - Odyssey/Neptune - Whistler Oddysey was the "Personal"/"Home" upgrade [more than likely] to WinME, and Neptune was the upgrade to 2000. But along came Billy, back into the lab, and thought, HEY what a hell of an idea to combine this somamabitches into ONE OS that looks fruity as hell! and thats the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by fizik2 CORRECTION, silly geese. as someone previously stated 95 - chicago nt4 - indy 98 - memphis 98se - nashville 2000 - cairo XP/2002 - Odyssey/Neptune - Whistler Oddysey was the "Personal"/"Home" upgrade [more than likely] to WinME, and Neptune was the upgrade to 2000. But along came Billy, back into the lab, and thought, HEY what a hell of an idea to combine this somamabitches into ONE OS that looks fruity as hell! and thats the end Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by antoinebj Neptune = Windows NT 5.1 that never made it. Whistler = Windows XP. you see Windows NT 5.1 did make it, its what was called "whistler" which is now known as Windows XP Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Odessey was going to be the upgrade for 2000 (businesses) and Neptune was going to be the upgrade for ME (consumers), but they were both going to be based on the NT kernel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 AFAIk was Cairo a codename for a set of research subjects, of which a part went into Windows 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modem Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Alright considering we've got a group of people who are beta boys and another group of people who actually like to research these things, heres the past roadmap of MS and instead here's what turned out. The way it was... The plan with Microsoft after NT 3.5 was released was to begin consolidation of the NT and 9x families. Upon the release and subsequent "superstardom" of 95 and it's interface Micrsoft had a planned upgrade to NT4 be released to incorporate the benefits of NT and the parts of 95 which people like, namely the interface. It was after that that we began hearing of talk of consolidation. I think then most people never took it seriously especially with rumors of "memphis" (win98) on the horizon. Upon the release of Windows98 that DOS based kernel was showing it's age and NT based systems were showing their growing potential. All of those consolidation rumors of years past were now taking validity. At the very earliest, the Microsoft roadmap was to create an upgrade for Windows 98 that was NT BASED. Yes it would be NT based but it was to carry the 9x consumer family a bit farther before merging NT/9x into a single Windows line. Later on leaked information indicated that "Neptune" was to be a NT based OS, but to offer only 9x family items mostly to get the stability down pat before cutting over. The earliest times I had heard for this release was around Q1 2001 (mind you I was researching this in early 99). Also in the roadmap there was a scheduled upgrade to the then Windows2000 "Cario" beta named "Odyssey" to be released shortly after "Neptune". "Odyssey" was going to be a business oriented OS but still seperate from the 9x family and continue the family lines. After which of both of those upgrades were there any discussion of the actual merging point. Basically the roadmap then was to look like this: Win95 -> Win98 -> "Neptune" (2001) > Future OS's (2003+) / NT 4 -> Win2000 -> "Odyssey" (2002)/ As we all know that was radically changed. Even at the end of the Win2000 development period rumors seemed to be taking on a bit of a change and steering away from the roadmap above. It seemed the leaked information that was true that made it to the net was that Microsoft "may" begin merging sooner than expected. With the leak of "Neptune" confirming Microsoft was working on that in Jan `00, it showed a very heavy NT/Business oriented style with small hints and changes indicating Microsoft was going to do radical changes. We now know that those strange rumors of MS running everything from their central servers to control your PC was actually the leading upto and development of .NET which was to find a home in one of the future upgrades. It was a month or so later that Microsoft told then developers and later announced that plans for Neptune were dead, but not only that, the roadmap was to be completely reshuffled. The newest codenamed OS "Whistler" was to bring the physical merging point of NT and 9x several years or OS generations sooner. After of which a fully fledged .NET OS named "blackcomb" would be revealed. That of course made the roadmap change to it's current look: Win95 -> Win98 -> WinME > Win NT 4 -> Win2000 -> WinXP > "Longhorn" - "Blackcomb" - ??? The reason I wanted to write about this is that this is a topic that I've been following closely for years. I have managed to get my hands on copies of leaked OS's and other releases and I have used them at some point. Heck sometimes I get them out and install them on a test machine just for old times sake. :) For the longest while Microsoft was on a binge of naming their beta's after cities: Windows 95 - "Chicago" Windows 98 - "Memphis" Windows 98SE - "Nashville" Windows NT 5 (later renamed Windows 2000) - "Cairo" Windows Me - "Milliennium" ??? - "Odyssey" CANCELLED ??? - "Neptune" CANCELLED Windows XP - "Whistler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
othernutrient Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by reshax0r correction fool. neptune was the upgrade to windows ME (me se) but it never came out and windows nt 5.1 is windows xp fool and whistler was not XP it was going to be its own OS my cousin works for microsoft in there server dept. so i asked him all that stuff Whistler was and always has been XP. Windows XP, before it was called Windows XP, was called Windows Whistler. The upgrade to Me (Windows Me SE) was going to be Tiger, but Microsoft has apparently canned that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoc Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Asteroid- Windows 2000 SP1 Babylon- Host Integration Server 2000 (SNA Server) Blackcomb- NT 6.0, Windows.NET 2.0 Blizzard- Business-oriented set of services for .NET My Services Cairo - Technology sets for Windows NT Cayman- NetMeeting 3.0 Chicago- Windows Chrome- ChromeEffects Comet- Networking tools for Windows 2000 Denali- Active Server Platform Emerald- Systems Management Server "2000" Europa- New user interface of MSN Communities and Chat (Summer 2001) Falcon- Microsoft Message Queue Server Fusion- New technologies to avoid the "DLL hell". Gemini- New user interface of MSN Communities and Chat (post Europa) Gibraltar- Internet Information Server Gryphon- Windows CE 2.0 HailStorm- .NET My Services Hydra- Internet Terminal Iris- Developers-oriented set of services for .NET My Services Jakarta- Java for IE3.0 Janus- Windows 2000 (64-bit version) Jupiter- Handheld PC Professional Lightning- .NET Common Language Runtime (CLR) Longhorn- Windows XP successor Luna- New User Interface for Windows XP Mars- MSN 6.0 Memphis- Windows 98 Merlin- Pocket PC 2002 Millennium- Windows Millennium Edition Nashville- Technology sets for Windows 95 Neptune- formerly NT-based Consumer Windows Nile- OLE-DB Odyssey- formerly Windows NT 5.1 Pegasus- Windows CE 1.0 Platinum- Exchange Server 2000 Plato- OLAP Server Quartz- ActiveMovie (now called DirectShow) Rainier- Visual Studio 7.0 Rapier- Windows CE 3.0 Shiloh- SQL Server 8.0 Steelhead- Routing and Remote Access Service Stinger- Smart Phones platform Tahoe- SharePoint Portal Server Talisker- Windows CE 4.0 Talisman- 3D graphics & multimedia architecture Tazz- Microsoft Phone Trident- Dynamic HTML Venus- Cheap non-PC device Watson- Outlook 2001 for the Mac WebBlade- Windows .NET Server for web appliances Whistler- Windows XP (aka NT 5.1, merger of Neptune and Odyssey ) Wolfpack- NT Server Clustering Technology Yukon- Upcoming SQL Server (SQL Server.NET) Zeppelin- Test for OLE ___________________________ I thank many websites for this info and hope that you people stop arguing over what was what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmuZombie Veteran Posted April 6, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by reshax0r correction fool. neptune was the upgrade to windows ME (me se) but it never came out and windows nt 5.1 is windows xp fool and whistler was not XP it was going to be its own OS my cousin works for microsoft in there server dept. so i asked him all that stuff I offcially award you the "BS award" Yes with this BS award you can now brag to all your friends about how you were such a "fool" and so convinced that you were right that you claim to back it up with the ever so popular "I know someone who works at microsoft so it IS true" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 i think this... Cairo = NT 4 beta... Neptune = Windows 2001 (project/code suspended by Microsoft and changed to Whistler project/code) Nashville = Windows 96 (95 + updates to make a future 98) mmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonze Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Stop with the Jibba JAbba! I pitty the Fool that thinks he knows what he is talking about but is just making it up. Don't be a fool, stay in school...... drink milk, and don't do drugs.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 I got a question about a Beta CD of Windows 95 I have. The ISO says it is Nashiville in the file name, and when I install it it has Windows 95 and a version of 4.10.999 is this the Windows 98 Beta? It does have some shell changes like hovering over items on the desktop produce a hyper link, indicating the intergrating of IE starting. What ever happened to Windows 97? I remember seeing it before in a computer catalogue, and seeing that System Commander software support it for an OS to boot up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Windows 97 was delayed I think for court reasons... and since it was late they just renamed it Windows 98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Ah, then it must have been beta versions I heard people say they are running since I've seen a few say they have Windows 97, would that be me extermely early copy of 98? BTW, the installer for my "Nashiville" is just like the original Windows 95/95a installer, not the newer 95b(OSR 2.0)/95c(OSR 2.5) installer which gets me, did MS write Windows 98 from the original 95? Or did they start right away as the copy rights and such are still 95 etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glix81 Posted April 7, 2002 Author Share Posted April 7, 2002 Well I was looking through all of these posts and there is only one thing I can deturmin. Writing this small article on my installation and thoughts, will be read! hmmmm Im trying to figure out a way to take screenshots of the installation, hmmm, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster2100 Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 lol, you guys are funny:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Originally posted by glix81 hmmmm Im trying to figure out a way to take screenshots of the installation, hmmm, Use VirtualPC or VMware, what I did to install my Windows 4.10.999, hehe. I used VirtualPC btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glix81 Posted April 7, 2002 Author Share Posted April 7, 2002 Martog your everywhere ! haha Well virtual pc eh? I have access to that on an ftp site, what is it? Thanks everyone for all the information Keep it comming ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanDude Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 i hope this will end all codename arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 VirtualPC lets you run another OS inside another one, like Windows 98 in Windows XP through a computer simulator sort to say. It uses your system RAM/HDD space and other such stuff, and has network bridiging support to let your virtualpc to access the network. Yes I am everywhere ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cq_ Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 digital camra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glix81 Posted April 7, 2002 Author Share Posted April 7, 2002 Well that virtual PC deal sounds awsome, Im going to give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessimat0r Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 General Martog is the commander for the Klingon battlefleet, of course he is everywhere! B'TAK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjv Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 very important deals discussed here.... wow ill base my thesis on microsoft codenames fjv ps, please excuse my sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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