generalnewbie Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Just wanted to know what everyones gonna do when it comes out... i mean im happy with XP so why change something that i dont have a problem with... But maybe you can convince me that the New SP1 version of windows will be improved and i need to get it! BTW My question is will MS just release the updates? or will they release a ISO of the windows xp with all the fixes..... so basically its a brand new improved OS?? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifamous Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 When I install SP1 (and personally, I'll wait for the final SP) I'm actually going to use Microsoft's nifty SlipStream to re-install Windows XP *with* SP1 already included, instead of installing SP1 on top of Windows XP. Then you have "a brand new improved OS" instead of an older OS with a patch applied. SP1 will be nice when it happens, though. Lots of nifty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster2100 Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 not like you care what i think;) but i am going to do the SlipStream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chernobylite Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Whats a slipstream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster2100 Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by SYNTHETIC Whats a slipstream? i dont really know, but from what that semifamous guy said, you can get an idea that it sounds pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wog boy Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 well.. im goin to upgrade.. for the simple reason that i wont have to apply patches to XP everytime i format.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nXP_151 Veteran Posted April 6, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2002 Maybe I will wait until the next version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by SYNTHETIC Whats a slipstream? its when u change all the files from the original cd to the files from SP1 so that when u install, u already have SP1...how to do it?? i dont remember but i know i did it for win2k sp2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimSage Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 SlipStream is having the patches applied to the innstall rather than upgrading files it applies the patch to the files before they are installed. In otherwods it replaces all the old files with new ones. This is what system administrators do to there networked drives with the install files on it so that they ahve an easier time updating all the computers on the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Read my post here on slipstreaming service packs.... https://www.neowin.net/bboard/showthread.ph...&threadid=20114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalnewbie Posted April 6, 2002 Author Share Posted April 6, 2002 sounds kewl thanks My network admins from what i learned do alot of ghost stuff like they make a Image of a HD just the way they like it tweaked and everything then send it to pcs over the LAN to have a already set pc pretty effective so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by SYNTHETIC Whats a slipstream? Slipstreaming a product is when you apply the patch to the actual installation files, as in, instead of installing the old version then applying the patch, you'd be installing the product patched. That doesn't make much sense, mmk, I'll use an example then trying to be technologically articulate, lets say you had Windows 2000, everytime you install it, you'd have to install the OS, THEN install SP2 over it. Using the slipstream method, you're installing Win2k along with all the patched files, so you end up installing it patched. This basically results in a more stable experience and less crap inside the Windows directory and the temp directories. I've done this to my Win2k CD and Office XP cd, works great. EDIT: Woah, everyone leaped on the question while I was typing it, lol. I haven't read Keldyn's slipstreaming guide, it's probably good stuff, but another place to look for one is Bink's site, www.bink.nu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted April 6, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2002 I'll wait for final SP1 for XP. It's a must have for XP users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 And it supports the Mira Technologies................sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalnewbie Posted April 8, 2002 Author Share Posted April 8, 2002 WHATS THE BIG DEAL??? would someone tell me how it will make my life easier? Please i would like to know what the big deal is about Mira what can it do for my pc? that it doesnt do now? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Originally posted by semifamous When I install SP1 (and personally, I'll wait for the final SP) I'm actually going to use Microsoft's nifty SlipStream to re-install Windows XP *with* SP1 already included, instead of installing SP1 on top of Windows XP. Then you have "a brand new improved OS" instead of an older OS with a patch applied. SP1 will be nice when it happens, though. Lots of nifty stuff. isn't that why microsoft has created dynamic update for? before installation as long as you're connected to the internet windows xp setup will download and install all patches and updates and apply them so that while its installing it'll do this for you. i don't believe there is a need to do it the old way like for windows 2000 anymore. thats what i think dynamic update is about. Description of the Dynamic Update Feature in Windows XP Setup (Q311220) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM5K Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Originally posted by xStainDx isn't that why microsoft has created dynamic update for? before installation as long as you're connected to the internet windows xp setup will download and install all patches and updates and apply them so that while its installing it'll do this for you. i don't believe there is a need to do it the old way like for windows 2000 anymore. thats what i think dynamic update is about. Description of the Dynamic Update Feature in Windows XP Setup (Q311220) That would just make the install take longer, because each time you decide to reinstall you'll have to download files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Will Microsoft charge us for the SP1 or will it be for free to download from the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted April 9, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 9, 2002 Originally posted by xStainDx isn't that why microsoft has created dynamic update for? before installation as long as you're connected to the internet windows xp setup will download and install all patches and updates and apply them so that while its installing it'll do this for you. i don't believe there is a need to do it the old way like for windows 2000 anymore. thats what i think dynamic update is about. Description of the Dynamic Update Feature in Windows XP Setup (Q311220) plus that only works on the upgrade version or have i been in the dark! You can't format and install from DOS and do the Dynamic Update can you? Cuz i'd rather that instead and have access to Windows Update to get all the patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted April 9, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 9, 2002 Originally posted by Evolution Will Microsoft charge us for the SP1 or will it be for free to download from the internet? i think if you order a CD they'll charge you (shipping prices) but you can download it for free from Windows Update. SPs are always free but this one makes me thing since it's gonna include Mira and Freestyle! MS giving that away for free? We'll see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalnewbie Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 whens its supposely? going to be released? anyone know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Will SP1 just be Windows XP SE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifamous Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 No.... It'll still be Windows XP, but it'll be Windows XP SP1. Kinda like IE 5.5 SP2 It's still IE 5.5, not 5.6 or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by Osiris And it supports the Mira Technologies................sweet. what is this mira any ways?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacbo Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 no you guys are getting this all wrong - microsoft are definatley gonna do an SE on us just like windows 98 and charge us for the "NEW" os. hey guys this is microsoft here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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