SeaClearly Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 I've never said this before but I think the ref should be fired today. The ref called a 15 yard penalty againsts Florida when the Tenn player hit the Florida player in the face and the Florida player hit him back and the ref saw the whole thing as I watched him watch it and he called the penalty only on the Florida guy that led to a 50 yard game winning field goal for Tenn. This is the worst home job and call I've ever seen and this guy should be fired after this. No excuse. It should have been one of two calls. Either 15 yards on Tenn only or offsetting calls but no only on the Florida guy. If the ref didn't see the first guy but only the second I could understand that but I watched the guy on the TV replay looking right at both of them and only throwing the flag very fast when the Florida guy hit back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottKin Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Since the team of the player that instigated the personal foul was penalized, the ruling stands. --ScottKIn Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPMCommander Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 hah. WE WIN! What a very close game that was! Go TENNESSEE!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaClearly Posted September 19, 2004 Author Share Posted September 19, 2004 Since the team of the player that instigated the personal foul was penalized, the ruling stands.--ScottKIn No your wrong the Tenn player hit first and wasn't called for a penalty so maybe you should watch that replay because it clearly shows the Tenn player hitting the Florida guy and the Florida guy hitting back and only the Florida guy got called for the penalty. These players can talk smack and it doesn't make a difference whether one player caused it but it only matters when contact comes into play and it clearly shows that the Tenn player made the first contact but he wasn't called for that but worse when the Florida guy hit back he was the only guy called with a penalty. The fact is you can make excuses all you want about the Florida guy should have not hit back it still has to be enforced fairly and that means that either one of two calls should have been made. One being a penalty only on the Tenn player because he hit first and if he didn't hit the Florida guy the Florida guy would have never hit back. Two being both players getting called for the penalty and that would offset any gain or loss for both teams. What should have never ever been callled is a penalty only on the Florida guy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted September 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted September 19, 2004 They saw him first (most likely the case) so they called it. No referee's are perfect, therefore errors are made. Take the loss like a Gator fan you are. I'm on fire today, I chose Auburn over LSU and Tenn over FL and I got them both right in my fantasy league :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 How can you tell the ref saw the hole thing? Watching on tv, you have no clue how it went down. Since it's next to impoosible for a ref to be bias anymore, especially on conference games. So either the Florida guy started it, or the ref missed the first hit and saw the second. Florida lost. Deal with it. Quit blaming it on someone else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Well, on the replay the ref was clearly looking at the play when it happened. What I think he did was wait to see of the Florida player was going to retaliate. If not, he SHOULD have flagged the UT player. But, regardless of that, Baker never, EVER should have put himself in that position. Those guys played so composed and professional for 58 minutes only to completely distruct at the end. And being a fan of the Gators and seeing this rivalry for about 12 years now, I just knew Wilhoit was going to have redemption. If you watch enough UT-UF games in your life, you shouldn't be surprised by this. It almost ALWAYS comes down to a play in the end, and after that penalty, I knew it was over. Plus, our defense did absolutely nothing to stop them the whole game, no reason why they would in the end. I will say this, though: the ref should have made an off-setting penalty call. I'm not saying the ref lost the game because Baker CLEARLY did not need to retaliate. And the defense should have put some pressure on the QB instead of playing a semi-prevent defense. That was the ballgame. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 That's my point, how can you tell where a ref is looking. Sure his head may be faced in that direction, but they are taught to keep their eyes and head on a swivel...no different than football players. In other words, his eyes could have very well been in another direction...something you can't judge on tv Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
defwhig Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 I was glad to see Wilhoit redeem himself. I felt bad for the kid. IT'S GOOD TO BE A TENNESSEE VOL!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
defwhig Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 In other words, his eyes could have very well been in another direction...something you can't judge on tv Especially when they show him from behind. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 after seeing the replay on espn...yeah it was a tough call. I'd be interested in hearing the refs pov Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584585823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxpor Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 something happend to tiki barber today, the ref missed a 15 yard facemask and he knew it, exept it wasnt a reviewable play. they saw it on the jumbotron and then they huddled together. It all good tho cuz the giants won w00t Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584588719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted September 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted September 19, 2004 It was a bad call, but it was a tupid thing to do (the gator) hitting back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584588752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k311 Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Baker never should have hit him back however, they showed the replay in slo-mo and the ref saw the whole thing. He was looking directly at them the entire time. Bullsh*t call. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584588968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femtochemistry Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 You know what we call that? Fixing the game. The FIX IS IN. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584594037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaClearly Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Well I read in the newspapers that the head of the refs was in the stands and is going to suspend all the refs in the game saying it was a disgrace to all the other refs. Here is what he had to say. He talked to the ref and asked him how much he saw and he said everything but he said that the Florida player was saying things to get the Tenn player going so he didn't call the original hit from the Tenn player but called it when the Florida guy hit back because the Florida guy started it first. Also the head of the refs said that on the play before it was a running play and they should have kept the clock running after the first down but they kept it stopped and that should have ran another 25 seconds off of the less than 1 minute clock which was well before the Tenn offense got going. Either way the head of the refs said it was a disgrace to have their fellow refs work so hard on going a good job and then see this happen. He suspended all the refs because one of them should not noticed that a running play should not have stopped the clock and there was no excuse for missing that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584596272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECEGatorTuro Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Yeah, regardless of the penalty or not (even though I'm very annoyed by it), the clock should have burned those 25 seconds! That clock should have never stopped in the first place. There was no way in hell UT was going to score if the clock had 20-something seconds left with no timeouts. Also, I couldn't beleive Matt Leech missed that field goal! :blink: I was like WTF?! At least the officiating wasn't as bad as the ACC refs for the UF-FSU game last season :x. Now if any officiating crew deserves to be fired, it should be THAT ONE! That was ****ing unbelievable. This is more of a reason why they need to bring instant replay to college footbal. It is absolutely necessary! Oh well... hopefully we will have a good season this year. I'm looking forward to sitting in the Swamp sweating my ass off yelling with the other 90,000+ people around me! ;) :happy: All I can say is that "It's great to be a Florida Gator!" PS: **** YOU ROCKY TOP! :laugh: ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584597090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k311 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 The official who ruined the game for us, Bobby Moreau, has been suspended from working a Florida game for the remainder of the season and the season after. Any other punishments have been kept secret by the SEC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584616358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 The official who ruined the game for us, Bobby Moreau, has been suspended from working a Florida game for the remainder of the season and the season after. Any other punishments have been kept secret by the SEC. And what about the officials from the reFSU game last year? Oh yeah...I forgot. The ACC (aka All-Convict Conference) doesn't discipline their officials. Oh well, nothing the SEC does to Booby Moreau will get the loss off the record. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/219676-tenn-and-florida-home-job-call/#findComment-584617517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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