mhmehkri Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by xpablo When I was in my early teens I lived in a Jewish neighborhood in Australia, and I'm not particulary fond of Jewish people, and few years ago I lived next door to Palastinian neighbors here in canada, and they seemed okay at first, but later became a "Jihad" with them and there was NO REASONING what so ever with them. as I was forced to move to different neighborhood to get away from them. You probably don't know the meaning of word "Jihad", go back to last page to know what it means Originally posted by xpablo If it was the USA being attacked by sucide bombers everyday you can rest assured they'd be doing a heck of a lot more damage in Palastine than the Israelies are. I don't think US has occupied some one elses land. Anyway 9/11 was really a terrorist attack and not an attack for a cause. Originally posted by xpablo The Muslim religion in my opinion is the most wickedest of all religions, as anybody who does not worship or believe in Allah is an "Infidel" and therefore does not have a right to exist. You probably have only heard this from Osama, not from any other muslim. Originally posted by xpablo I'd like to see the days when the western world will no longer have to rely on oil from the middle east countries and then terrorism will be defeated. As with countries like Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia finance Terrorists, the telethon in Saudi Arabia, is just more funding for terrorists and with every passing day , Osama & Saddam are probably smiling when innocent Israelites and fellow arabs are being killed, by maniac Palastinians. Its OK if Palestinians are killed, right ? Originally posted by xpablo Remember 9/11 and the Palastinians were dancing in the streets as the world trade centers collapsed. I had referred to this before in one of my posts, The dancing and celebrating shown on CNN was from some past time. I had seen a newsletter from BBC critisicing CNN for providing wrong Video shots at a wrong time thus spreading hatred for Palestinians. Originally posted by xpablo Bottom Line : What comes around goes around. I truly believe the Palastinians are getting what they deserve.... Innocents deserve only humanity and right to live ( This reffers both to Palestinians and Israelies ). IDF is killing Innocent P's and Suicide bombers are killing innocent I's. BTW why does America always VETO off any UN resolution against Israel even the sending of UN peacekeepers to Occupied lands of Palestine had been VETOed in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrose Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 Thank you Voodoo. :) Removing these pictures will not change anything. The fact is that the Isreali did this to the Palestinnian childern, and are doing it everyday. Hundreds of civilians have been secretly baried in secret location from the Jenen camp. The purpose of these picture is just a reminder for whom has forgotten, and as naked truth for what the Isreali are doing every minute. Let the people and the world see the truth & nothing but the truth. It is really strange when everybody is asking for the truth, but when thew see it aginst their interest they will deny it totally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I use to think that anti-Jewish hate groups were full of crap whenever they would say anything against the Jews, that it was just unreasoned hatred. But resently I'm beginning to think that there is some truth in what they are saying, at least in regards to the Israelis. I've been watching the news coverage, and discussions and I can't believe just how stupid the Israeli apologists think everyone in the West is. The distortions and half-truths they use to defend their side is incredible. And the justification that this is all in self-defence is abosolute nonsense. From what I understand is that the ratio between the population is around 2.6 (Palestinian) to 1 (Israeli), yet the death tole is around 4 to 1. It is clear that it is the Palestinians who are the ones under a holocaust here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by madrose Removing these pictures will not change anything. The fact is that the Isreali did this to the Palestinnian childern, and are doing it everyday. Hundreds of civilians have been secretly baried in secret location from the Jenen camp. The purpose of these picture is just a reminder for whom has forgotten, and as naked truth for what the Isreali are doing every minute. Let the people and the world see the truth & nothing but the truth. It is really strange when everybody is asking for the truth, but when thew see it aginst their interest they will deny it totally Some would rather believe a popular myth over an unpopular truth. It is the same with religion. This sort of thing happens a lot whenever the overly religious get any real governmental power. Isreal is more a theocracy than it is a so-called democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrose Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by NOS482 I use to think that anti-Jewish hate groups were full of crap whenever they would say anything against the Jews, that it was just unreasoned hatred. But resently I'm beginning to think that there is some truth in what they are saying, at least in regards to the Israelis. I've been watching the news coverage, and discussions and I can't believe just how stupid the Israeli apologists think everyone in the West is. The distortions and half-truths they use to defend their side is incredible. And the justification that this is all in self-defence is abosolute nonsense. From what I understand is that the ratio between the population is around 2.6 (Palestinian) to 1 (Israeli), yet the death tole is around 4 to 1. It is clear that it is the Palestinians who are the ones under a holocaust here. Thats the way they conveinced the whole world with half truth. And the world is letting them get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted April 14, 2002 Administrators Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by NOS482 I use to think that anti-Jewish hate groups were full of crap whenever they would say anything against the Jews, that it was just unreasoned hatred. But resently I'm beginning to think that there is some truth in what they are saying, at least in regards to the Israelis. Hate groups generally only offer a ONE SIDED opinion on the said subject. So lets not start preaching about what Hate groups have to offer, because they dont have ANYTHING to offer but hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by Neobond Hate groups generally only offer a ONE SIDED opinion on the said subject. So lets not start preaching about what Hate groups have to offer, because they dont have ANYTHING to offer but hate. Maybe, but even a broken clock is correct at least twice a day. :) The Israelis would have us believe that they are totally innocent here. They have been trying their best to show only their side of the story to the world. Sure, where the Israelis are invading is a dangerous place, but it also seems that much of Israel is just as dangerous as well and they seem to have plenty of cameras and reporters around showing this to the world. Not so in the invaded area. They showed the suicide bombing where 6 people were killed, yet there were no cameras around showing the hundreds of dead Palestinians being buried. Hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin2002 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by madrose Removing these pictures will not change anything. The fact is that the Isreali did this to the Palestinnian childern, and are doing it everyday. Hundreds of civilians have been secretly baried in secret location from the Jenen camp. The purpose of these picture is just a reminder for whom has forgotten, and as naked truth for what the Isreali are doing every minute. Let the people and the world see the truth & nothing but the truth. It is really strange when everybody is asking for the truth, but when thew see it aginst their interest they will deny it totally You aren't posting truth, your posting tasteless crap. Kids do not have to see such things; you are an idiot for posting those pictures. This thread should be closed now, for it?s not even on topic anymore. It says what is your thoughts of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, not lest bitch each other out about the Israel-Palestine Conflict. You have said what you think and then some so walk away madrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dARKSTAr Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 This thread should be closed now, for it?s not even on topic anymore. It says what is your thoughts of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, not lest bitch each other out about the Israel-Palestine Conflict. b> devin2002...but see, every thread about the israeli-palestinian conflict comes to this point in the end. It's why i haven't posted here very much, because i was involved in a similiar discussion here and it ended with a tasteless comment when one side asked if the other side was happy because there were more dead bodies in the street. There is so much anger from each opposing side, that it'boundi> to degenerate into anarchy. But you know what? maybe that's a good thing. Because maybe each side will realize how ridiculous they both sound and realize that the only alternative to more anarchy and more death is one thing and one thing only. Putting aside the harsh feelings and the bombs and the guns and the tanks and coming to the negotiating table to talk peace. At first I disagreed with NeoBond keeping this thread open, but i now see the method to his madness. It reminds me of when you are bit by a rattlesnake. The worst thing you can do is bandage the wound. You need to suck some of the poison out first and then maybe it will be time for the bandage to be applied so the wound can heal. What he attempted to do with this thread was an admirable thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 You aren't posting truth, your posting tasteless crap. Kids do not have to see such things; you are an idiot for posting those pictures. This thread should be closed now, for it?s not even on topic anymore. It says what is your thoughts of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, not lest bitch each other out about the Israel-Palestine Conflict. You have said what you think and then some so walk away madrose. b> Maybe sometimes children, in the industrialized West, should see things like this to remind them of just how good they truly have it when compared to 90% of the rest of the planet. To see people which have nothing else to call their own. To be so desparate for this that they will murder each other over land, land which is little more than a sandpit. They nothing more than fools in the end. You are irrelevant. You can't shut your eyes and make it all go away no matter how much you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin2002 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by NOS482 Maybe sometimes children, in the industrialized West, should see things like this to remind them of just how good they truly have it when compared to 90% of the rest of the planet. To see people which have nothing else to call their own. To be so desparate for this that they will murder each other over land, land which is little more than a sandpit. They nothing more than fools in the end. You are irrelevant. You can't shut your eyes and make it all go away no matter how much you want to. They do in High School. Young Kids no matter where they are do not need to see such violence. I'm irrelevant??? This is a technology board in the first place... the irrelivence is this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 They do in High School. Young Kids no matter where they are do not need to see such violence. Ostrich, head, sand. I'm irrelevant??? This is a technology board in the first place... the irrelivence is this thread. Yes, you are. If this thread was so irrelevant then why are you taking part in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrose Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 You aren't posting truth, your posting tasteless crap. Kids do not have to see such things; you are an idiot for posting those pictures. Idiot: This topic first is not for Kids, if you are one then you shouldn't be here. And if you want to close your eyes from the truth, it is your business, but you can't ask the rest to do so. This thread should be closed now, for it?s not even on topic anymore. It says what is your thoughts of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, not lest bitch each other out about the Israel-Palestine Conflict. You have said what you think and then some so walk away madrose. b> This is the only thing you can do to keep the half truth there. Don't allow the truth to show. But what ever you might do, no body can block the sun. You are apset to see these pictures, but non was upset that this thing is really happining and Israeli are killing babies, mothers & old ppl. Shron is worst than Hitlar. He is Satan him self. Please do tell me what do you think about the Palestinians as Torrest and the Statistics are showing 4:1 death from the Palestinian to the Isreali. Or the statistics are good and accurate if it match your needs only. C'mon ppl wake up. look around you. See the truth. Don't accept what they are telling you, search for the full truth. although I know most ppl doesn't wanna bother, but remember one thing: what you see might happen to you one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by devin2002 They do in High School. Young Kids no matter where they are do not need to see such violence. I'm irrelevant??? This is a technology board in the first place... the irrelivence is this thread. It is relevant, hence the "General Discussion" forum. Listen people, if you cannot have a sensible debate, like mature adults then perhaps its best if you did not participate. Seems everytime a topic of such a political nature is made, people cannot stop themselves from flaming each other. Respect the fact that everyone has their own opinion. They are not necessarily right or wrong, and you cannot force your viewpoints upon others. The best you can do is help people see your side of the argument, and appreciate it from a different perspective. Just chill guys ok.... Keldyn;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Booger Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 here here well put Keldyn My thoughts, It's a continual mess.... Maybe they should define a boundary for each... Have it enforced by a neutral entity (if there is such a thing) and stop the violence... It seems to be a ###### for a tat... Palestinians are ****ed because Israel settles, and mistreats them, so they (some groups) send in terrorists to bomb, Israel retaliates... Never ending cycle... So do we A) help Or B) not help? We being the worldly powers, I think B is a stupid answer, but A, seems to be the way to improve the situation... Maybe Palestinians would stop bombing, if Israel would remove the settlers, to a designated boundary... At least then the violence would stop.. Maybe But regardless, i feel for the innocent people caught in that mess, and my heart goes out to both... Hopefully one day it will be resolved... BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrose Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by Big Booger here here well put Keldyn My thoughts, It's a continual mess.... Maybe they should define a boundary for each... Have it enforced by a neutral entity (if there is such a thing) and stop the violence... It seems to be a ###### for a tat... Palestinians are ****ed because Israel settles, and mistreats them, so they (some groups) send in terrorists to bomb, Israel retaliates... Never ending cycle... So do we A) help Or B) not help? We being the worldly powers, I think B is a stupid answer, but A, seems to be the way to improve the situation... Maybe Palestinians would stop bombing, if Israel would remove the settlers, to a designated boundary... At least then the violence would stop.. Maybe But regardless, i feel for the innocent people caught in that mess, and my heart goes out to both... Hopefully one day it will be resolved... BB First: a peace agreement has been placed, and borders has been set, but Israel never maintained that border, nor continue the peace process Second: Settlers were placed in the areas between the Palestinian cities & Towns. So they will claim later that they can give this land to Palestine, as there are Israeli settlements in the area. Third: If Israel wants peace, they will not agree to Shron?s Visit to the Holy AQSA with a huge number of troops. Check this out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Booger Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 The end of September and October, 2000, has seen a series of violent events unfold that probably unofficially mark the end of the Oslo accords. The 1993 Oslo Accord, whereby Israel recognized the PLO and gave them limited autonomy in return for peace and an end to Palestinian claims on Israeli territory, has been largely criticized as a one-sided accord, that benefits only Israel, not the Palestinian people. A former Israeli military general, Ariel Sharon, (accompanied by 1000 soldiers) visited a holy Muslim site, called the Temple Mount by the Israelis, and Haram al Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) by the Muslims and proclaimed it as eternal Israeli territory. Sharon had been accused of massacres in his military days and is well known to all. He is very right wing and against the peace process. This infuriated Palestinians, and led to a series of protests and violence. So if that ended how can the border, peace etc.. still exist...??? I am talking about the future... not the past or present... Further I said a NEUTRAL party should maintain the border, for example the UN... thanks BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooo Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 This post mostly goes out for madrose, but is important for others to read. Frist of all about your pictures. truth - probobly yes, but it's war, you can not balim Israel for wanting to punnish the terrorists who hide among the innocents. It's them to blaim, if Palastinians don't want people to die they shouldn't hide terrorists. War is messy and usualy the people who are not to blaim get hit the most. instead opf giving a hiding place for terrorists get the on trail and Israel will not attack, I do not blaim all Palastinians for the terror or for all the killings I blaim the terrorists and pretty much only them. Kids' weman and old people die on both sides and the pictures you have shown can be presented on both sides. as for UN force to keep it quite... I'm sorry but I got to laugh at that. just look at Lebanon, the Hizbollah killed them and when they didn't the UN didn't do anything any way... as for the rate of 4:1, half of the people on the palastinian side has eather been a terrorist, a guy who tried to attack israel forces (in anyway) and don't forget them Palastinians who are being killed by other Palastinians for being accused of helping Israel... ohh yeah without trail.... I do not blaim the Palastinians for how they feel, us jews have felt the same way for a long time but they have chose the wrong methods to deal with it. The people who you should fight is not Israel but the Fanatics because lets get this clear not you or us could win this will go forever. deal with the fanatics in your side and we will deal with ours but don't forget at the moment the upper hand is on our side and therefore it is Israel who has the power to hurt so it's pretty much your side who has to make the first move because no one here will change anything while we get terrorist acts against us. I would also want to remind you that the Palastinians were asked to keep 7 days with no terror acts and in return we will move back and start [eace talks. the offer was given three times and not in any case did the Palastinians kept the 7 days. and one final word about Arafat, on the one hand to the TV araound the world he talks about peace here peace there... in the arab TV he talks about Shids and how they should fight to kick Israel away. some guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by ooo This post mostly goes out for madrose, but is important for others to read. Frist of all about your pictures. truth - probobly yes, but it's war, you can not balim Israel for wanting to punnish the terrorists who hide among the innocents. It's them to blaim, if Palastinians don't want people to die they shouldn't hide terrorists. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It all depends on whose side you are on and who wins. Here is one thing which isn't too well known is that during the war for independence in the USA the majority of the colonists didn't want to be independant from England. The few which did used terrorist type tactics to get what they wanted. Many of the one's which wanted to still stay with England were eventually driven out to what is now Eastern Canada. Now the ones who did this to them are seen as heros. History is written by the victor. as for the rate of 4:1, half of the people on the palastinian side has eather been a terrorist, a guy who tried to attack israel forces (in anyway) and don't forget them Palastinians who are being killed by other Palastinians for being accused of helping Israel... ohh yeah without trail.... From what I've seen is that one only has to be suspected of being a terrorist by the Israelis to be put on their death squad list and they don't really care who else gets in the way of their revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooo Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 OMG ?! Freedom fight. ok unlike Israel the "freedom" fighters look for kids to kill ok wat to be a freedom fighter attack people who can defend themselvs... don't give me that point of view crap because there is no doubt about it they are terrorists. as for calling Israel a terror country hmm well people can argue about that some will say it is some will say it isn't but the fact is that when Israel attacks it doesn't have the intention of killing kids etc. who wins? you must understand that Israel has the power to wipe off the Palastinians in a day but thats not our will, we do want peace but we don't want it while being attacked and the fact is we are stronger no matter what you say, it's not a nice thing to say but its a fact, we have tanks planes misiles, mininukes etc. they don't, well we don't use most of them on them and we use moderated forces in hope to cause as less unwanted casualties as we can and when we do have them again I blaim the terrorists who hide in the houses much like what they did at that church... one thing is you can not argue about the people who kill themselvs not terrorist because they are - plus terrorist are groups who fight against free countries and israel is one and therefore they fall into that catagory no matter how you see it and on what point of view you stand on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 My thoughs on the matter. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation.php?id=283066 -- unspec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dARKSTAr Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 ooo...I think NOS482's point about freedom fighters is that to Israeli's and to a good portion of the rest of the world, the actions done by the palestinians are terrorist actions. But to the palestinians, they consider themselves freedom fighters. He's not saying that HE thinks they are freedom fighters. (NOS482...feel free to correct me if I'm stating your point incorrectly). It's quite common for a inferior force to fight a superior one with guerrilla/terrorist tactics. The Israeli side has tanks, superior firearms, well-trained troops, an army with a chain of command, etc. The Palestinians lack this and so they fight against you with unconventional means. Again, this is not uncommon. If you want further proof, look at how the Vietcong fought the US in Vietnam, or how the Afghans fought the Soviets in Afghanistan. If you don't have the means to fight on the same level as the force you are fighting against, you use whatever means you can. Please Understand!!! This doesn't mean that I condone their actions, but it also doesn't mean that I'm surprised when you are attacked in this manner. The palestinians are a militarily inferior force and so they attack you with any means at their disposal. It's obvious that they don't consider themselves terrorists in the way that you and i think of them as terrorists. As NOS482 said, they see themselves as freedom fighters. The truly sad thing about this conflict is that it has become a conflict based on revenge. An eye for an eye, if you will. The palestinians send a suicide bomber in who blows him/herself up killing and wounding a bunch of israeli's, the israeli's send forces in and palestinians get killed and the cycle starts all over again. But the cycle does nothing more than create more hatred for the other side. It makes the conflict an extremely difficult one to rectify. One that sadly i feel will just go on and on and on in a never ending cycle of death, hatred and violence. But I hope that i'm only being pessimistic, and i hope that i'm wrong and that maybe one day there will be peace. But considering the actions of both sides, i don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooo Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I'm sorry but I guess you are uninformed at the Palastinian weapon status. Karin - A, just an example of what the Palastinians have: Misiles RPG's chain guns etc. don't be fooled they have other means of fighting but they prefer killing the innocent, why you ask ? two reasons one is to try and get as many people to leave Israel which to tell you the truth been working pretty well uptill now, today terror acts on their side jus make the Israeli people stronger and united. the other season they use it is for the impact it gives and the simple reason the weapons are brought by Arafat and are illegal again shows you what a great peace man he is. I'm sorry I do not eccept the freedom fight excuse, when jews were depressed terrorisem act's in the name of Tziyunut never happend and if one would have ever happend trust me the jew community would have suffered 10 times from what the Palastinians have from us - their terror support. and again the cycle can be stoped only from their side to tell you the truth, the move will not happen from the Israeli side for a few reasons. Israel is a county and can not back off from terrorisem right wing is just getting stronger because of the acts of terrorisem as much as I would expect that at the next election the left wing will lose more then 50% of it's votes therfore the Palastinians are loosing their window of time to have someone to talk to. and we have no one to talk to as long as they support terrorisem and have Arafat as a leader. about the never ending cycle, Israel is not acting for revenge you can see that because Israel hasn't responded to terrorisem for a long time and actually have started acting on it latly after not doing anything for a long time (rabin-Peres-Netanyaho) but because of the growing terrorisem acts and the open window we got from the US after it's war on terrorisem we finally react to the acts, so it's not because of revenge but to disable as much as we can the terrorist org's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by ooo OMG ?! Freedom fight. ok unlike Israel the "freedom" fighters look for kids to kill I suppose that in South Africa the whites there didn't see themselves as invaders either. ok wat to be a freedom fighter attack people who can defend themselvs... don't give me that point of view crap because there is no doubt about it they are terrorists. In some ways so were the American Founding fathers. It all depends on who wins and gets to write the official history. History now sees them as freedom fighters. as for calling Israel a terror country hmm well people can argue about that some will say it is some will say it isn't but the fact is that when Israel attacks it doesn't have the intention of killing kids etc. Of course not, they don't see Palestinians as ever being children, they are just potiental terrorists. who wins? you must understand that Israel has the power to wipe off the Palastinians in a day but thats not our will, we do want peace but we don't want it while being attacked and the fact is we are stronger no matter what you say, it's not a nice thing to say but its a fact, we have tanks planes misiles, mininukes etc. they don't, well we don't use most of them on them and we use moderated forces in hope to cause as less unwanted casualties as we can and when we do have them again I blaim the terrorists who hide in the houses much like what they did at that church... Oh, how kind of you not to commit open genocide. As for the Church thing they were legally granted santuary and the Israelis are violating it whenever they get a chance to, I.E. killing the bell ringer and a Palestinian policeman when he went out to put out a fire in the church's courtyard. BTW, the so-called gunmen in there are unarmed since they gave all of their weapons to the priests and monks. one thing is you can not argue about the people who kill themselvs not terrorist because they are - plus terrorist are groups who fight against free countries and israel is one and therefore they fall into that catagory no matter how you see it and on what point of view you stand on. No, Israel is not a free country. It is an armed camp which oppresses many of the people living there if they are not of the correct belief system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by ooo I'm sorry but I guess you are uninformed at the Palastinian weapon status. Karin - A, just an example of what the Palastinians have: Misiles RPG's chain guns etc. And Israel has nuclear weapons as well. What's your point? don't be fooled they have other means of fighting but they prefer killing the innocent, why you ask ? two reasons one is to try and get as many people to leave Israel which to tell you the truth been working pretty well uptill now, today terror acts on their side jus make the Israeli people stronger and united. And don't you see that when you use the same tactics it only makes the Palestinian people just as strong and united as you, in fact more so since they are more than willing to die for their beliefs. the other season they use it is for the impact it gives and the simple reason the weapons are brought by Arafat and are illegal again shows you what a great peace man he is. Who makes them illegal, the Israelis? This sounds quite familiar. I'm sorry I do not eccept the freedom fight excuse, when jews were depressed terrorisem act's in the name of Tziyunut never happend and if one would have ever happend trust me the jew community would have suffered 10 times from what the Palastinians have from us - their terror support. Of course you would believe this since you are on the other side. and again the cycle can be stoped only from their side to tell you the truth, the move will not happen from the Israeli side for a few reasons. Israel is a county and can not back off from terrorisem right wing is just getting stronger because of the acts of terrorisem as much as I would expect that at the next election the left wing will lose more then 50% of it's votes therfore the Palastinians are loosing their window of time to have someone to talk to. and we have no one to talk to as long as they support terrorisem and have Arafat as a leader. Funny, this is basically what they say of you and by some of the acts I've seen done by the Israeli side they have a more valid point. about the never ending cycle, Israel is not acting for revenge you can see that because Israel hasn't responded to terrorisem for a long time and actually have started acting on it latly after not doing anything for a long time The news media must be quite censored in Israel. Of course it is revenge and an opportunity to steal more land as well. If Saddam did this sort of thing everyone would be all over him. (rabin-Peres-Netanyaho) but because of the growing terrorisem acts and the open window we got from the US after it's war on terrorisem we finally react to the acts, so it's not because of revenge but to disable as much as we can the terrorist org's Wasn't Rabin murdered by a fellow Israeli? The only way you are going to stop the terrorists act, short of leaving all of the occupided terrorities, is to kill every last Palestinian man, woman, and child. Anyone who believes that what Sharon is doing now will do what he wants is a fool. This will only give the Palestinains more of a valid cause to fight for. You are only helping them in the eyes of the rest of the world. They is one reason why military leaders make such losey governmental leaders. Sharon is an incompetent leader and a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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