xpablo Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I personally don't believe in God, and Heaven & Hell is the state of mind when you die, you die peacefully your in "Heaven" Die violently your in "Hell". Jesus is a proven fact that he existed etc.. but I don't worship him. MY atheist belief is that religion is the root of ALL evil, Sept 11/01 proved that when Bin Laden's boys killed in the name of Allah. and now the suicide bombers in Israel. Basically some religion's to me come down to as My God is better than Your God and I will fight to the death and/or destroy you to prove it. The above is my opinion, and not meant to offend anybody and it's a free world mostly so if you want to believe in god or whatever thats your choice and I respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted April 11, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 11, 2002 well i think this thread takes the cake. yep, i believe in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=NickJ= Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 No, i don't believe in God, i believe the bible is the biggest contradictory work of fiction since AMDTburnt posted in "AMD vs. INTEL" lol :D The reason the idea of God came about is becasue people need a purpose for life, people like to think they were put her for a reason and not that it was just by chance. Cody, the reason you cannot imagine nothingness, is because it is one of the two phenomina that the human brain cannot contemplate (the other being inifinity). When anyone is asked to imagine nothingness, they imagine blackness, which is something. When asked to imagine an infinite line of anything, it will always have an end. Its just the way we're made, we can't comtemplate these things. There is a saying in Maths and Science "If something can happen, it will". The way everything works today has come about BECAUSE it works, not by chance. If God made everything, why wasn't everything perfect straight away? Why are biological paths still being formed as we grow up? (each generation gains something on its predecessors) Its not all perfect because it is a gradual process, the Big Bang was the beginning, when the earliest atom reacted with each other, and the universe is still developing. I do not believe in an after-life, once you're gone you're gone, which is why i'm not wasting any of my life devoting my time to something that i do not believe is real. EDIT: Keldyn i like the points you have made on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forsaken Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 God....Only for the weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wog boy Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 dont have to.. i am god.. except i wear a better suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariusu Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 yup, i believe in god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EidrahS Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Allah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedr0 Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I read this thread with interest, there are many view points and I respect everyone of them. Actually I base all my life philosophy on two simple facts. 1. You don't have conscience of when you are born, neither when you are dead, so my conclusion is this: you're never born, neither you're ever dead. Actually I think that when you die, actually you don't, simply that your own parallel universe you're living in that moment collapses, joining another parallel universe where you escaped death or simply that event didn't occur. I've escaped death many times (as many of you) and this thought is very radicated into myself to think I'm just lucky. You're never born as you don't have conscience before the event, and this takes a fundamental role in the second point. 2. A Greek philosopher (I don't know if I spelled it right, sorry) named Tacito, if I'm not wrong, once said cogito, ergo sum, which means I think, so I am. If you think about it, that's a pure fundament of true. How do I know if I exist? Simple, I exist as I think. But how do I know everything else does exist? I don't know, as I don't have the conscience of your brain elucubrating. Deducting from the statement that I exist, I have the conscience that I if I didn't exist, nothing would exist (as for everything else is created from my existance). So, this leads us here: my existance is the key to the joint of my infinite range of parallel universes to your also infinite range of parallel universes, where everyone's existance is the key to the joint of my infinite range of parallel universes, and so on. The central point of this infinite web of existances is what I call God, so, to answer the poll, yes, I do believe in God, even if I don't worship it. Sorry for the long post, if you have any questions feel free to PM me, I'll gladly answer to give some other explanation. And no, I'm not trying to convince you that my answer is the right one, just wanted to share my opinion. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freightgod Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Forums are a really dumb place to try to have a serious discussion...atheists make me and God giggle, but hey, that don't stop 'em from getting to heaven and there's nothing saying I'll make it just because I believe in it. Anyway, cheese whiz, posts like this only serve to get people's blood pressure up. But see what a hypocrite I is for joining in? lol Wow, look at those photons organize! PAX ET CARITAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icie Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 What is with all these threads coming up just INVITING flamers? I appreciate the fact that these issues might be of importance but they are of such controversial nature that it is not suitable for posting here. Of course most would not, but some people might actually get offended by other's views and thus promote ill-will. First there was the creationist/evolutionist thread, then the palestinian thread, and now this. BTW: Fedr0, nice pic... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sOma Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Topics like this seem to come up a lot here... I don't believe in a God, but I am open to the idea that one or several exist. I strongly believe in reincarnation, and that we are here to complete certain tasks, then move on to different tasks in other lives, and the lives we have are what we have chosen. I am constantly revising my beliefs based on details of other people's experiences... for instance I have a friend who had a moment once where he felt a past life... and he was with a friend who had some very interesting psychic abilities where she could see people's auras... she saw what was happening to my friend who was having the experience... And this has opened my eyes wider to the things we are capable of doing... to how powerful our minds are... something I intend to experience for myself. As for these comments from people claiming to be realists, I believe those people have a limited imagination (no offense) and I have quoted Einstein once, and I will do so again... He once said "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the universe." And the fact is, if we can imagine something, then it is possible. There are many examples in which we have imagined things and they eventually became possible... Like the internet, for instance... Like cars, like television... Without imagination, we would not be posting on this topic right now, and we would have never left the planet earth, and we would have never even flown in the sky. I am very sympathetic for people who don't have imaginations... But I will say that I too dislike religion, and feel that it is being misused... And it is something we could live without, while still keeping the beliefs in our Gods and our incarnations and heavens or hells... Religion, in my opinion, is pointless, dumb, lame... But the beliefs in Gods, incarnations, etc are not the cause of things like september 11th... Brainwashing is the cause of things like that, and religion is one big system or program for brainwashing people, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Forums are a really dumb place to try to have a serious discussion...atheists make me and God giggle, but hey, that don't stop 'em from getting to heaven and there's nothing saying I'll make it just because I believe in it. What is that supposed to mean? Heh, is it the usual I'm-Right-You're-Wrong-But-I-Dont-Argue-Tour? lol :D lol, no but seriously, that's a very biased comment which could lead easily to a flamewar afterall. I already wonder why it didn't start already earlier. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted April 11, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 11, 2002 I don't believe in god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDJ Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 GO ATHEIESTS lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=NickJ= Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 People here are not actually flaming, this is a good thread because people are placing their points of view and i for one am listening to what others have to say. Lets keep it this way, no more "this thread is asking for trouble" posts because that IS asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVirus Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Yeah, it's shocking news. I am my own God and thus, I control myself and everything that I do or is related to me. I don't belive in any higher power since there cannot be anything that can control me except myself. Waht comes to those who belives, I pity em. They are too weak to belive themselves and tries to find easy way out or hand their lives to someone/something to control. And out of all religions, only ONE is good enought .. its Buddhism. Christians, Judish and most of all Islams are just war crazy idiots. Islams just made religion so they can dominate women and get as many as they like to **** around. They make me sick! If you have any comments about this, email me and I am more than glad to talk about you how you should belive yourself ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devobitch Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 that peolpe may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you alone are most high over all the earth psalms 83:18 then Jesus said to him "go away satan! for it is written, 'it is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service'" mathew 4:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obraxis Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Ok, lets think of this argument in the form of the Babelfish... Ok, God says " I refuse to prove that I exist, for my people should have faith, and without faith, I am nothing" But Modern day Atheists say: "Oh, but Jesus was a dead-giveaway wasnt he? The Fact that he exists, (the son of GOD) proves that you dont" And God says "Oh, I hadnt thought of that" and vanishes away in a puf of logic. So, if you believe in God, and Jesus, then they cant exist. ;) *Awaits Flame* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVirus Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Obrasix good reply! That will make belivers think about :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Phatty Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 "There is more evidence of the existence of UFOs than the existence of God, yet if you mention that you believe in UFOs, you're considered a kook. Whereas if you believe in this man in the sky, you're on the right path." - George Carlin (Maxim Magazine, June 2001) I say think what you want, but keep it to yourself, I don't care about your religion, and neither does anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessterw Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Originally posted by Obraxis Ok, lets think of this argument in the form of the Babelfish... Ok, God says " I refuse to prove that I exist, for my people should have faith, and without faith, I am nothing" But Modern day Atheists say: "Oh, but Jesus was a dead-giveaway wasnt he? The Fact that he exists, (the son of GOD) proves that you dont" And God says "Oh, I hadnt thought of that" and vanishes away in a puf of logic. So, if you believe in God, and Jesus, then they cant exist. ;) *Awaits Flame* Uh ok sure whatever you say. While I don't believe that Jesus was the son of God, I do believe he existed. However your logic doesn't add up to anything, but then again it's just a joke :D ... :ermm: wasn't it? LMAO :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I don't... I just can't accept that there is an afterlife and we must make use of THIS life and not count on there being an afterlife. Also, if anyone has heard ANYTHING about Northen Ireland then you should realise that you have to ACCEPT other religions, not kneecap them with shotguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessterw Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Originally posted by Captain Phatty "There is more evidence of the existence of UFOs than the existence of God, yet if you mention that you believe in UFOs, you're considered a kook. Whereas if you believe in this man in the sky, you're on the right path." - George Carlin (Maxim Magazine, June 2001) Love the Carlin quote, he is such a f*ing hilarious guy :D I love watching him when he just totally destroys someone's beliefs and they are sitting in the front row! We need people around like him to make people who don't, question their beliefs instead of following blindly (like 50% of more of Christians, before you flame, how many do you think have actually read the Bible front to back?). I say think what you want, but keep it to yourself, I don't care about your religion, and neither does anyone else. Uh yeah, did you or did you not read the title of the thread? What did you think would be talked about in here? And despite what you think, alot of people take interest in the religions of others. Anyone who goes through life never questioning their beliefs or learning about others is ignorant (braces for the flames :p ) or delusional, take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessterw Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Originally posted by jesterzwild Uh ok sure whatever you say. While I don't believe that Jesus was the son of God, I do believe he existed. However your logic doesn't add up to anything, but then again it's just a joke :D ... :ermm: wasn't it? LMAO :p Good point, just not a perfect example :D There's alot more to the Irish conflicts than religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKer Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 So, if you believe in God, and Jesus, then they cant exist I was brought up to think they were the same thing (ie the trinity) and this is a mainstream RC belief - although I think this isn't the point and think your idea is funny. I also have heard that there is more evidence that Jesus existed than there is that Julius Caesar did, but I can't remember where I heard this! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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